Since you replied to my comment....I was hoping you or Ronnie would address my analogy about "wins".
Ronnie quoted Dak's winning % at me as proof of....well something.
All well and good.....but what KIND of wins? That is a silly stat unless we break it down. It's actually okay to lose some games. But you also need to win important crucial ones. Which ones are included in that winning %?
BTW...not trying to be critical or argue. It's an interesting exercise in what stats actually mean.
I agree, every QB wins some crucial games and loses some. the winning teams are winning, because the same argument applies to them. that's why they are winning teams.....
you hope they win more than lose. Dak has a .500 record against winning teams (as of 2019). before we jump at that, I have to say I never compare it in a vaccum, since its got to be compared to his contemporaries. Brady has an insane record against teams with a winning record. I believe Russell wilson is next. Stafford is 7-58. that's abysmal. Rodgers is also .500 or slightly below. I will find the latest stats for up to 2020. so Dak is on par with other QBs.
so first you want them to have a winning percentage. hopefully its similar to the other good ones in the NFL. then you want them to have good winning percentage against teams with a winning record, so it means they are able to play against good teams. then you want to see playoff success.
however, we can't only look at these in a vaccum of a QB and the offense, since I have often argued that winning/losing is a coaches responsibility and subsequently the GM. the GM and coach responsible to put a winning formula together, both offense, defense and special teams. I find it amusing that we talk about stafford and his lack of success and people will defend him, yet we talk about Dak and people will take the exact opposite view finding fault with everything they defended stafford. (p.s. stafford was an example).
so, it goes back to our original discussion. Dak can't control the outcome of the game, he can control the outcome of the offense. if he is consistent against good defenses, meaning more good plays than bad ones. and consistently good against bad defenses (mostly dominating, etc.). then he has done his offensive part. then the defense has to do their part.
and that's where responsibility of wins/losses is on the coaches. 2020 defense was bad. that's on Jerry and the coaches. 2019 team was bad and the coaching staff had a lot to do with it. same with 2018, where players started to take over the games and not listen to the coaches, which put the coaches on notice for 2019 one of the weirdest coaching situations I ever remember.