NFC way too early optics

Blitzen said:

Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).
I'd place Dallas in 2nd tier.
A top 5 QB with a top 8 offensive line and top 3 receiving core with some consistency at OC.
The defense will not be lost. Better coach the middle of the line will not be a seive
The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.

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Techsass said:

I enjoyed your post, but think 7-10 wins is on the pessimistic side. Picturing 10 losses is a bit hard on me right now. The Bucs & KC are the only teams that scare me at this point & I'm not totally giving up on those games.

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Blitzen said:

Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.

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Jake said:

This place will implode if the Cowboys start 0-2 after facing Brady and Herbert on the road.

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Ranching said:

My beer goggles see 12 wins and at least one playoff win, if we stay healthy.

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Blitzen said:

Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.

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Future said:

Did we forget about what Seattle was for the second half of last season? They flat out stunk, and they haven't gotten better this offseason. You could pretty much say the same thing about the Rams.

If everyone's healthy, the only teams you can consider putting in a tier above Dallas are Tampa and GB.

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daboyzruleperiod said:

I see my Raunchy conveniently didn't post about his whiskey goggles.

Things that make you go....mmmmm.

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Blitzen said:

Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.

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fivetwos said:

I'm having a tough time agreeing on the NFC East.

We should be very happy that it's weak. Been that way for a while. It kept Garrett here way longer than he should have been, but it also allows a team like ours to think playoffs in June.

How'd you like to be Vegas right now with Mahomes likely in KC for a lifetime and Denver maybe getting Rodgers? Not to mention Herbert. Oooof.

I also enjoy going against the clown show leaders in Philly now much more than when Reid was there.

Not trying to argue, just saying. The shame of it all is the inability to truly take advantage of a weak division for about a decade now.

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Blitzen said:

It's definitely not on the overly optimistic side. 10 wins is four more than the team had last year and 2 more than the team had in 2019.

I can visualize the team improving from last season, but have to exercise immense amounts of liquid courage to go further than 10 wins. So many things would need to break the Cowboys' way.

If the team stumbles early and often, then it could carry through the entire season. I could envision a scenario where the squad only managed to win seven games (through an unhealthy offensive line and defensive malfunctions). I do not see fewer than seven wins

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Blitzen said:

Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.

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