Blame Game. Ive Heard Mike, and Greg BUT

blueblood70 · Sep 11, 2021

conner01 said:
It hit him right in the hands
He had two drops last night
The shorted pass was on Dak
But his drops were no more important than taking a sack that took you out of FG range when you were out of the pocket
Or penalty in the red zone
Of missing a short FG and extra point
Or a obvious push off not called
The good news is these are not talent problems
These are using your head problems and those can be fixed
Talent problems like the Dline are just something you have to live with at this point
And even with 4-5 plays that could have won the game, we played the SB champs to the end and that should give confidence that this team can win a lot of games

on point

CowboysFaninHouston · Sep 11, 2021

khiladi said:
Nothing of what you stated changed the fact that Dak threw the ball into triple coverage, meaning it’s excuses. If they look isn’t there, the QB is not supposed to throw it. That’s what PROGRESSIONS are for.

It’s like the same throw he made earlier that should have gotten picked off as well, so you can blame CeeDee for dropping it, but Tampa Bay fans can blame there LB for dropping the same pass Dak threw right into his hands.

In fact, looking at the video, it’s worse that I thought, the play-action had the LBs dropping back and the next progression was Schultz who basically Dak just ignores even though he looks right at him, isolated on one guy having like thirty yards to run.

That’s Dak for you.. the ONE read, first progression stare down QB..

he did throw it...that was the only play. what should he have done? the passing lane was there. he put the ball where WR could catch it....CD should have made that catch, that's why he is still not an elite WR.....he has to stop the drops....but it also doesn't change the fact that the play call was absolutely stupid....no ifs buts or thens.....Moore's job is to put his players in a position to succeed. on that play he didn't. he ran a play, with two routes going the same direction, from the same side, in the same area.

should he have thrown it to schultz? if you look at the play without your dak hating agenda glasses you will see that looking down field the play was makable and he played it aggressively instead of a 3 yard dump where schultz was. fact is that the ball did hit CD squarely in the hand, between all the defensive players. big plays are made in big moments by great players. CD wasn't great in that moment....Brady made a similar throw and Godwin caught the ball, so did Gronkowski.....Brady's interception was the same, he had other options and his player just didn't catch it. so if you are going to blame Dak for this, then how about the 42 completions he did make? and how about the bad throws by Brady?

now, it also sounds like you demand perfection from our QB....58 throws and you picked the one that CD should have had and blame Dak for throwing it......give me one QB, one game where every throw was perfect and the QB didn't make one mistake in throwing the ball either off target, or in multiple coverage...one game. one player..every throw. show me or shut up

khiladi · Sep 11, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
he did throw it...that was the only play. what should he have done? the passing lane was there. he put the ball where WR could catch it....CD should have made that catch, that's why he is still not an elite WR.....he has to stop the drops....but it also doesn't change the fact that the play call was absolutely stupid....no ifs buts or thens.....Moore's job is to put his players in a position to succeed. on that play he didn't. he ran a play, with two routes going the same direction, from the same side, in the same area.

should he have thrown it to schultz? if you look at the play without your dak hating agenda glasses you will see that looking down field the play was makable and he played it aggressively instead of a 3 yard dump where schultz was. fact is that the ball did hit CD squarely in the hand, between all the defensive players. big plays are made in big moments by great players. CD wasn't great in that moment....Brady made a similar throw and Godwin caught the ball, so did Gronkowski.....Brady's interception was the same, he had other options and his player just didn't catch it. so if you are going to blame Dak for this, then how about the 42 completions he did make? and how about the bad throws by Brady?

now, it also sounds like you demand perfection from our QB....58 throws and you picked the one that CD should have had and blame Dak for throwing it......give me one QB, one game where every throw was perfect and the QB didn't make one mistake in throwing the ball either off target, or in multiple coverage...one game. one player..every throw. show me or shut up

No, it wasn’t a stupid call if Dak could go through his progressions and hit a wide open Schultz, because it’s clear the play action which was meant to freeze the defenders didn’t work at all and the other option Dak had was basically wide open. An OC is suppose to provide options, it’s the QB that then has to execute.

No, he shouldn’t have thrown it and just like that, it got picked off because he left his WR out to dry and there were plenty of DBs around to catch it. The point is it’s the same type of STUPID throw he got bailed out on, because the LB dropped it.

So now Moore is supposed to make every play call right, but Dak gets the excuse for the pick.. got it..

blueblood70 · Sep 11, 2021

khiladi said:
Hold the horses with Gallup bro.. Gallup has basically been running go routes his whole career here. Lamb and Cooper, yeah..

not true , he does the go route super great..

hes made some of the best toe tap sideline crossing and out routes then the rest of the team..hes becoming a well rounded wr..period. He can run the route tree, catch tough passes and go routes but the dude is better then Terrance Williams thats for sure..

the narrative of just go route guy ended last year when he caught those two sideline passes from Dalton and Thursday that sideline catch shows his finesse game..not sure the pigeon hole this guy..Dez was also not just 50 50 guy as he returned punts and caught other balls..you dont get 3 seasons of over 1350 yards and over 10tds per just being gadget guy..

fans are just setting narratives and thinking it mired in fact, it is not..Dez was one of the best wrs in the league those 4 years.. he was awesome to watch, nearly unstoppable..gallup has some of the in him and thats not knock on him like fans try and make it..

gallups underrated and will get giant deal some where else.

khiladi · Sep 11, 2021

blueblood70 said:
not true , he does the go route super great..

hes made some of the best toe tap sideline crossing and out routes then the rest of the team..hes becoming a well rounded wr..period. He can run the route tree, catch tough passes and go routes but the dude is better then Terrance Williams thats for sure..

the narrative of just go route guy ended last year when he caught those two sideline passes from Dalton and Thursday that sideline catch shows his finesse game..not sure the pigeon hole this guy..Dez was also not just 50 50 guy as he returned punts and caught other balls..you dont get 3 seasons of over 1350 yards and over 10tds per just being gadget guy..

fans are just setting narratives and thinking it mired in fact, it is not..Dez was one of the best wrs in the league those 4 years.. he was awesome to watch, nearly unstoppable..gallup has some of the in him and thats not knock on him like fans try and make it..

gallups underrated and will get giant deal some where else.

I said he’s basically been running go routes his whole career here. We can also point out many other routes Dez ran. Facts are Dak was considered a number 1 by each and every one. Gallup has never been. That’s what I was addressing.

I’m not belittling Gallup, I’m addressing the comment that one would rather have Dez than him.

blueblood70 · Sep 11, 2021

khiladi said:
I said he’s basically been running go routes his whole career here. We can also point out many other routes Dez ran. Facts are Dak was considered a number 1 by each and every one. Gallup has never been. That’s what I was addressing.

I’m not belittling Gallup, I’m addressing the comment that one would rather have Dez than him.

I say he is NOW

gallup could be a one right now for most teams. here hes buried amongst other 1s..nice issue to have..hes not eilte but 21 yes i say hes arrived..his loss is big one yes we can cover it up but i noticed how much easier it was to cover Wilson one on one and started doubling ac and lamb the yards got tougher once Gallup went out of the game..

khiladi · Sep 11, 2021

blueblood70 said:
I say he is NOW

gallup could be a one right now for most teams. here hes buried amongst other 1s..nice issue to have..hes not eilte but 21 yes i say hes arrived..his loss is big one yes we can cover it up but i noticed how much easier it was to cover Wilson one on one and started doubling ac and lamb the yards got tougher once Gallup went out of the game..

I respect that take. We will see.

CowboysFaninHouston · Sep 11, 2021

khiladi said:
No, it wasn’t a stupid call if Dak could go through his progressions and hit a wide open Schultz, because it’s clear the play action which was meant to freeze the defenders didn’t work at all and the other option Dak had was basically wide open. An OC is suppose to provide options, it’s the QB that then has to execute.

No, he shouldn’t have thrown it and just like that, it got picked off because he left his WR out to dry and there were plenty of DBs around to catch it. The point is it’s the same type of STUPID throw he got bailed out on, because the LB dropped it.

So now Moore is supposed to make every play call right, but Dak gets the excuse for the pick.. got it..

no, it was a stupid play call. putting two recievers from the same side in the same area running basically the same route....that is pure stupidity no matter how you look at it......and the FACT is that CD was open. throw was in time. hit him in the HANDS and it went right through his hands. no matter how many times you say it, its not going to change the facts.....his drops alone make him into a middle of a pack reciever at best......and if you watch the throw, you see the perfect flight on the ball, over the defender in the middle between the other defenders and CD coming across and missing the catch....

son, I think NFL game is a little above your head. you have clearly not just in this post, but other posts demonstrated your lack of understanding of NFL game....maybe you should start with 6th grade flag football and work your way up as this game is totally confused you....its obvious based on your last two posts alone that you are just regurgigating what you have heard somewhere else, given you clearly demonstrated a lack of understanding....I can't sit here and try to teach someone who is still at flag football level.....its pointless as everything said goes right over your head...

I asked you once before. I made you an offer. just text me and I will send you the following book. lets start there......and make some progress before engaging in things you clearly lack understanding of.

Football For Dummies: Howie Long, John Czarnecki: 9781119553007: Amazon.com: Books

this is not an insult. I am just trying to help you out and being serious about it.

sacase · Sep 11, 2021

OldJarhead said:
That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

It hit both his hands. Very catchable. His hand position was wrong though so that is on Him

RonWashington · Sep 11, 2021

Batman1980 said:
Lamb is the most overrated of the top 3, at least he's already better than Dez Bryant.

I don’t know what receiver your watching but “ overrated “ is not a word that comes to mind . One of the best and getting better. Ask the Beagles in Philly if they rather have an “ overrated “ Lamb or Reagor out of TCU ? And as far as Philly I’m not sold on DaVonta Smith either .

Irvin88_4life · Sep 11, 2021

OldJarhead said:
Probably one of those talking heads on the TV that are in love with #4. I understand. Dropped passes are like errors in Baseball at the discretion of the scorer. I am not sure who gets to decide what is a drop and what is a bad pass for real. I mean, I know we as fans all bicker back and forth and all that matters not a bit in the end. All that matter is what JJ and Mike and the kid (the OC) think.

Well you can start with.......if it hits both your hands it is a drop. No way around that

zerofill · Sep 11, 2021

Fla Cowpoke said:
If Cooper plays like he did tonight there is no chance he goes anywhere

Funny thing with Coop is, he is so dang quiet lol. Off the fied you wouldn't know this guy was on a team. He is never
trying to be in the spotlight. He is an introvert, that just likes living inside his own head, in his own bubble. I respect that,
because it is the way I am.

thechosen1n2 · Sep 12, 2021

khiladi said:
Nothing of what you stated changed the fact that Dak threw the ball into triple coverage, meaning it’s excuses. If they look isn’t there, the QB is not supposed to throw it. That’s what PROGRESSIONS are for.

It’s like the same throw he made earlier that should have gotten picked off as well, so you can blame CeeDee for dropping it, but Tampa Bay fans can blame there LB for dropping the same pass Dak threw right into his hands.

In fact, looking at the video, it’s worse that I thought, the play-action had the LBs dropping back and the next progression was Schultz who basically Dak just ignores even though he looks right at him, isolated on one guy having like thirty yards to run.

That’s Dak for you.. the ONE read, first progression stare down QB..

He did what we've been wanting him to do for years. Throw a WR open. It was a laser, and was placed right by the defenders blind spot.

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

DakPresgoat said:
Lol. The ball hit him directly, square in both hands.

yes it’s a drop.

While that ball shouldn't have been thrown, it was a perfect pass. Drop.

3rdEyewarrior · Sep 12, 2021

thechosen1n2 said:
Ceedee hurt the cowboys bad tonight. He has to fix the drops. He stalled the first drive with a drop, as well as the drop from Dak (it was a short/bad pass) but still you have to catch that.

He then drops the absolute dart that lead to Daks sole pick after throwing 50 times.

This is not a CeeDee hate thread, but he has to work on this if we want to get rid of coopers contract. Until then Cooper is and will be our best receiver.

I’d let cooper retire a cowboy.

DogFace · Sep 14, 2021

WillieBeamen said:
Yes, he dropped the pass

The QB ALSO left him out to dry with throwing that pass into triple coverage.

Let him out to dry? It’s not like Ronnie Lott was coming to kill him. Hell, they’re not even allowed to tackle him.

Please. That was a drop and a perfectly threaded pass. Out to dry?? Get the **** out of here.

JoeKing · Sep 14, 2021

OldJarhead said:
That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

Hit him right in the hands. It was a drop!

kskboys · Sep 14, 2021

Man, some of you guys must be CeeDee's kin or something. That was a drop, clear as day.

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