In defense of Mike McCarthy

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VaqueroTD said:
Before the national media (because I don't see it coming as much from the local media) turns this into a feeding frenzy on Big Mike, I just wanted to point out some compliments for Big Mike from people who have an opinion that matters. I think some people think this team just magically got its act together this year. No one, not many here, and not many people in the national media, gave us a shot to be where we are at now. You can take down the man when we're losing, but you also have to prop him when we're winning.

Bill Belichick 2021:


Bill Belichick 2015:


Aaron Rodgers on Green Bay critics a few years back:


Brett Favre on Cowboys peformance in 2020, and rumors of player criticism (Favre looks completely right now in retrospect 2021):


Troy Aikman on Big Mike and his impact on the offense:
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We tried real hard to beat orselves
 

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Cowboy Lover said:
But you cited Barry who inherited a super bowl team.

THIS team isn't!

So whatever man. Whatever you say. You eft up your references don't be mad at me about it,.
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Uh, no, I didn't.
The analogy was based on coaches who did NOTHING as the talent they had won despite them.
Barry Switzer was a figurehead who rode the coattails of Aikman and Co.
Mike McCarthy is a figurehead riding the coattails of Dak, Kellen and Quinn.
It's not my fault you couldn't understand the point of the analogy. ;)
 

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LovinItAll said:
I hate attacking another fan, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Let's do it like this:

Has MM made some clock management blunders? Yep.

Do I think going for it on 4th in our own territory instead of making the rookie QB on the other side drive a long field was a mistake? Yep.

FG attempt in the 4th instead of going for it on 4th and short? Turns out both options had the same chance of success (%), one yields points, the other doesn't, but converting would have been meaningful, too. Fine with either decision pre-play. Judging a 50/50 decision after the result is known doesn't work. Good poker players understand what I mean.

Here's where I take issue with the 'MM doesn't do anything' narrative:

Jones and company are in the building every day. They aren't shelling out millions a year to a dude that 'doesn't do anything'. Because YOU don't know what he does doesn't mean he doesn't do anything. You absolutely cannot say that what he does during the week doesn't show up in a positive way on game day. You aren't there. You don't know. Neither do I.

I'm not even a MM fan, but I'm smart enough to know what I don't know.

I've said this before: There's an EXCELLENT chance that Kellen would be less effective game planning if he were the HC, and I love that he has DQ there to tell him that. I think JJ will do whatever is necessary to keep Kellen. That may ultimately be canning MM and replacing him with Moore. We'll see. JJ and Co had no problem telling Nolan to hit the bricks. They'll do the same to MM, if necessary.
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Too long, didn't read.

Everyone sees MM ineptness from former players to commentators. Yeah, but they don't know what they're talking about. :rolleyes:
MM has had minimal impact on this team. And the time when his influence is clear, he's botching time management. It's clear for ALL to see - if they want to.
 
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tyke1doe said:
Too long, didn't read.

Everyone sees MM ineptness from former players to commentators. Yeah, but they don't know what they're talking about. :rolleyes:
MM has had minimal impact on this team. And the time when his influence is clear, he's botching time management. It's clear for ALL to see - if they want to.
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If you didn't read it, then don't quote me.

An easy ignore.
 
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as long as he stays out of Moore and Quinns way he's okay. maybe give the timeouts to somebody else and he would be awesome.
 

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LovinItAll said:
If you didn't read it, then don't quote me.

An easy ignore.
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I read only the first part. Didn't read all of it.
As for ignoring you, you could have done the same.
But I said what I said and addressed what I wanted to.
I'm done with you. :)
 
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VaqueroTD said:
Before the national media (because I don't see it coming as much from the local media) turns this into a feeding frenzy on Big Mike, I just wanted to point out some compliments for Big Mike from people who have an opinion that matters. I think some people think this team just magically got its act together this year. No one, not many here, and not many people in the national media, gave us a shot to be where we are at now. You can take down the man when we're losing, but you also have to prop him when we're winning.

Bill Belichick 2021:


Bill Belichick 2015:


Aaron Rodgers on Green Bay critics a few years back:


Brett Favre on Cowboys peformance in 2020, and rumors of player criticism (Favre looks completely right now in retrospect 2021):


Troy Aikman on Big Mike and his impact on the offense:
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MM has done a great job in many areas.
But he has got to get the game management thing down before it costs us a win.
 
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Looking big picture, he has started reshaping the mold of this franchise. It was badly needed, and you can see less entitlement among players and an embrace of competition among the roster (long overdue!).

No longer does an entire unit fall apart when one player is sidelined.

Looking at the micro level, he does make some bizarre in-game decisions with regard to clock management. The timeout at the end of regulation was badly misplayed.

I don’t know enough about his 4th down tendencies in Green Bay, but it seems like he’s trying to embrace analytics and go do more 4th down conversions. I think he’s still trying to get a feel for when to be aggressive and when to pull back.
 
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Moore and Dak run the offense , Quinn runs defense , Stephen Jones runs personnel . What exactly does meathead Mike do besides act baffled by challenges and clueless managing clock?
He might cost us a deep run in playoffs before it’s over.
 
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Mk2_Cowboys said:
Moore and Dak run the offense , Quinn runs defense , Stephen Jones runs personnel . What exactly does meathead Mike do besides act baffled by challenges and clueless managing clock?
He might cost us a deep run in playoffs before it’s over.
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Based on your claim a HC is totally optional so why even have one? Just keep Kellen and Quinn and see how that works out.
 
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Jake said:
I still shake my head at some of his game-day decisions but have to give him credit, overall (and I wasn't a fan of the hire).

Changes made this season are working, the team believes in themselves, and they don't quit when something goes wrong.
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Leadership can be quantified in different ways. Getting people to believe is the first step. Having yes men at a certain level is fine, but in business or a football team, you need people that understand how to approach the Leadership and engage regarding the priorities they are dealing with daily. The nuances of leadership are not easy. If successful, then leadership provides the resources and are supported by outstanding team members. By accident, happenstance, or perhaps competence, our leadership is in a nice position. Go Big Mike!
 
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We'd be 6-0 if we had a good head coach.

Those 1 score wins against the Panthers, Pats, and Chargers would be at least 14 point wins with a better head coach.

McCarthy is better than Garrett, yes, but my bar is much higher than just being better than a bum like Jason Garrett.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
We'd be 6-0 if we had a good head coach.

Those 1 score wins against the Panthers, Pats, and Chargers would be at least 14 point wins with a better head coach.

McCarthy is better than Garrett, yes, but my bar is much higher than just being better than a bum like Jason Garrett.
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The grass is never as green as you think it is.
 
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There are a million details that go into coaching. Clock management and game day decisions are only a small portion of it and he’s scoring pretty highly everywhere else as far as I’m cocerned.
 
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