Review of Super Bowl Champion Defensive Rankings

Hawkeye19 · Dec 5, 2021

CATCH17 said:
Playoff seeding is going to be a big deal for us and really every team.

Losing to the Broncos and Raiders really hurt our Super Bowl odds imo.

For sure.

NFC was always going to go through Brady or Rodgers. Dallas, Ariz, and LAR are all a cut below those two teams— regardless of record— simply because their QBs are all still unproven and undecorated in Jan.

That said— I think Dallas can beat any team in this league when we are on our game. The question for this team is whether or not they are hungry, consistent, and disciplined enough to do the hard, dirty little things required to win a championship

CATCH17 · Dec 5, 2021

Hawkeye19 said:
For sure.

NFC was always going to go through Brady or Rodgers. Dallas, Ariz, and LAR are all a cut below those two teams— regardless of record— simply because their QBs are all still unproven and undecorated in Jan.

That said— I think Dallas can beat any team in this league when we are on our game. The question for this team is whether or not they are hungry, consistent, and disciplined enough to do the hard, dirty little things required to win a championship

Right now I think the key is avoiding the Rams in round 1.

They matchup well with us.

Jipper · Dec 5, 2021

The way our defense has played so far it doesn’t feel like a Super Bowl caliber….yet

2 big issues

big plays given up - I think I heard they were worst in terms of 20 yard plus plays given up

lack of consistent pass rush - it’s been there on occasion thanks to Micah but just not consistent

Hopefully getting pieces back fix the pass rush , not sure how to fix the big plays without haveing the secondary change coverage schemes which means fewer turnovers with few risks taken

SlammedZero · Dec 5, 2021

Hawkeye19 said:
Another key factor is when does a team start playing it’s best football? Lots of teams start hot and fade— great teams peak late and finish strong.

This Cowboys team has an opportunity to finish healthy and strong. Will they? Anyone’s guess

This is something I'm always hollering about as well. Since people are bringing up the 2011 Giants, look at their schedule. They started good, had a terrible middle that included a 4 game losing slide, and then got warmer at the end. Then when the playoffs started they got HOT.

I believe the Cowboys are capable of this, especially with players coming back/getting healthier. One reason I haven't freaked out about our last few losses. Let the team get it out of their system, get everybody back, and let's roll.

CowboyRoy · Dec 5, 2021

xwalker said:
Year Team: Points Allowed Ranking / Yards Allowed Ranking
2020 Bucs: 8th/6th
2019 Chiefs: 7th/17th
2018 Pats: 7th/21st
2017 Eagles: 4th/4th
2016 Pats: 1st/8th
2015 Broncos: 4th/1st
2014 Pats: 8th/14th
2013 Seahawks: 1st/1st
2012 Ravens: 12th/17th
2011 Giants: 25th/27th

2000 Ravens: 1st/2nd (Won the Super with Trent Dilfer as the starting QB)
- They had the lowest points allowed in any season since the NFL went to a 16 game season.
- Their yards allowed were the 3rd lowest between 2000 and 2020 (2008 Steelers #1, 2000 Titans #2).

1992 Cowboys: 5th/1st
1993 Cowboys: 2nd/10th
1995 Cowboys: 3rd/9th

Pretty damning evidence right there. Haters be damned.

CowboyRoy · Dec 5, 2021

Jipper said:
The way our defense has played so far it doesn’t feel like a Super Bowl caliber….yet

2 big issues

big plays given up - I think I heard they were worst in terms of 20 yard plus plays given up

lack of consistent pass rush - it’s been there on occasion thanks to Micah but just not consistent

Hopefully getting pieces back fix the pass rush , not sure how to fix the big plays without haveing the secondary change coverage schemes which means fewer turnovers with few risks taken

Big plays given up=Brown and a stretch where injuries affected the pass rush.

Vtwin · Dec 5, 2021

CATCH17 said:
That defense probably doesn’t sniff the playoffs without Brady.

Too many of you turn on the Super Bowl, see a good performance by the defense, then start screaming defense wins championships.

No.. It does not. Those defenses are on whatever ride their QB takes them on and they will do their best to compliment the team. Occasionally you’ll get a great defense capable of carrying a team but 9 times out of 10 the team is QB driven.

This Cowboys defense could easily get to a Super Bowl and have a great performance. Having a great defensive performance is a normal thing for this defense but yet some of you still doubt them.

That defense did bail Brady out of a three interception performance in the playoffs to even get to the SB.

reddyuta · Dec 5, 2021

Aven8 said:
We were top 10 in points allowed, which is the only stat that matters, until Carr happened on Turkey day…..

I am hoping with Dlaw,Gregory and Micah we can get consistent pressure on QBs,we should win most games if we can do that.

CATCH17 · Dec 5, 2021

Vtwin said:
That defense did bail Brady out of a three interception performance in the playoffs to even get to the SB.

Yeah… I’m not acting like a defense won’t ever win a team a game.

Our defense has done that for us this year.

Im confident they don’t win a title without Brady.

Aven8 · Dec 5, 2021

reddyuta said:
I am hoping with Dlaw,Gregory and Micah we can get consistent pressure on QBs,we should win most games if we can do that.

That was the most important thing that day not talked about…..Carr had all day to throw.

Cowboyny · Dec 5, 2021

xwalker said:
Year Team: Points Allowed Ranking / Yards Allowed Ranking
2020 Bucs: 8th/6th
2019 Chiefs: 7th/17th
2018 Pats: 7th/21st
2017 Eagles: 4th/4th
2016 Pats: 1st/8th
2015 Broncos: 4th/1st
2014 Pats: 8th/14th
2013 Seahawks: 1st/1st
2012 Ravens: 12th/17th
2011 Giants: 25th/27th

2000 Ravens: 1st/2nd (Won the Super with Trent Dilfer as the starting QB)
- They had the lowest points allowed in any season since the NFL went to a 16 game season.
- Their yards allowed were the 3rd lowest between 2000 and 2020 (2008 Steelers #1, 2000 Titans #2).

1992 Cowboys: 5th/1st
1993 Cowboys: 2nd/10th
1995 Cowboys: 3rd/9th

Looking at these rankings, first thing that jumps out, you better have an elite offense and a top 10-12 defense. I still don't believe our Defense is there yet.

ondaedg · Dec 5, 2021

Jipper said:
The way our defense has played so far it doesn’t feel like a Super Bowl caliber….yet

2 big issues

big plays given up - I think I heard they were worst in terms of 20 yard plus plays given up

lack of consistent pass rush - it’s been there on occasion thanks to Micah but just not consistent

Hopefully getting pieces back fix the pass rush , not sure how to fix the big plays without haveing the secondary change coverage schemes which means fewer turnovers with few risks taken

Don't forget how soft we are at the dt and LB positions. Denver can tell us all about that.

ondaedg · Dec 5, 2021

Cowboyny said:
Looking at these rankings, first thing that jumps out, you better have an elite offense and a top 10-12 defense. I still don't believe our Defense is there yet.

Not even close to being there yet. This defense can give up 200yds rushing or 70yd pass plays on any given Sunday.

xwalker · Dec 5, 2021

ondaedg said:
Not even close to being there yet. This defense can give up 200yds rushing or 70yd pass plays on any given Sunday.

A defense can give up yards if they get turnovers.

Cowboys 2021 Defensive Rankings
Points Allowed per Game
10th

Yards Allowed per Game
27th

Interceptions Per Game:
1st (Tied)

ondaedg · Dec 5, 2021

xwalker said:
A defense can give up yards if they get turnovers.

Cowboys 2021 Defensive Rankings
Points Allowed per Game
10th

Yards Allowed per Game
27th

Interceptions Per Game:
1st (Tied)

Turnovers are the best equalizer but we lack the talent at key positions to be able to consistently re,y on takeaways. Specifically at free safety and cb.

kskboys · Dec 5, 2021

CATCH17 said:
That defense probably doesn’t sniff the playoffs without Brady.

Too many of you turn on the Super Bowl, see a good performance by the defense, then start screaming defense wins championships.

No.. It does not. Those defenses are on whatever ride their QB takes them on and they will do their best to compliment the team. Occasionally you’ll get a great defense capable of carrying a team but 9 times out of 10 the team is QB driven.

This Cowboys defense could easily get to a Super Bowl and have a great performance. Having a great defensive performance is a normal thing for this defense but yet some of you still doubt them.

Actually, it's the opposite. Too many of you turn on the super bowl, watch only the QB and put it all on him. Weak analyses.

No one is saying "ONLY" D wins championships. However, you are simply not going to win a super bowl w/o a D. Not going to happen.

kskboys · Dec 5, 2021

sunalsorises said:
I didn’t realize the Bucs defense was that good last year. What is also interesting is the Eagles. The Super Bowl they won had zero punts and was an offensive shootout.

Yes, it was.

However, the Eagles never get there w/o D. They D held the two previous teams to 10 and 7 points. The Eagles do not beat ATL in the first round of the playoffs w/o a great D performance. The Philly D put up all of 15 points in that game.

And one could also conclude that lack of D is why NE lost that super bowl.

Takes both O and D to win a super bowl.

kskboys · Dec 5, 2021

DakPresgoat said:
I couldn’t care less about yards allowed.

points is important. That being said. Give me the turnovers.

if the defense is forcing 2 turnovers a game in the playoffs. Then the cowboys are capable of beating anyone.

You should care. Allowing too many yards gasses your D. Very few D's can be even decent when giving up massive amounts of yardage, and then you have to have a mastermind like Belly to make it so.

Many many games have been lost because the D couldn't get off the field. Losing TOP makes it hard to win.

Jake · Dec 5, 2021

xwalker said:
Year Team: Points Allowed Ranking / Yards Allowed Ranking
2020 Bucs: 8th/6th
2019 Chiefs: 7th/17th
2018 Pats: 7th/21st
2017 Eagles: 4th/4th
2016 Pats: 1st/8th
2015 Broncos: 4th/1st
2014 Pats: 8th/14th
2013 Seahawks: 1st/1st
2012 Ravens: 12th/17th
2011 Giants: 25th/27th

2000 Ravens: 1st/2nd (Won the Super with Trent Dilfer as the starting QB)
- They had the lowest points allowed in any season since the NFL went to a 16 game season.
- Their yards allowed were the 3rd lowest between 2000 and 2020 (2008 Steelers #1, 2000 Titans #2).

1992 Cowboys: 5th/1st
1993 Cowboys: 2nd/10th
1995 Cowboys: 3rd/9th

Wait, I've been told "great QBs" don't need defense to win.

The 1971 Cowboys were 7th in scoring defense while the 1977 Cowboys were 8th in scoring defense ("worst" Cowboys defense to win a SB).

StylisticS · Dec 5, 2021

maryquality said:
The 2011 Giants seem to be the outlier.

That entire team got healthy towards the end of the year. People forget that.

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