Stafford is better than Dak

Hypotenoose · Jan 23, 2022

starcity214 said:
McVay would have gotten rid of Dak before signing on as HC LOL!

People think good coaches baby sit bus drivers, but it's really the opposite.. They get rid of them! Lol

Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid, McVay, Bruce Arians and on and on..

Dak is lucky he has had nothing but YES MEN that coddle him throughout hus career..

Can’t disagree with the Dak assessment. In the end, however, Jerry is the root cause of this generational mess. I’d love it if fixing the QB position were the only issue between the Cowboys and a Super Bowl.

starcity214 · Jan 23, 2022

Romo_To_Dez said:
How is the great Trevor Lawrence doing with the Jaguars right now. How you will give certain QBs a pass for being on bad teams. But use the bad team narrative against Dak proves more and more how some fans have a hatred or agenda that specifically targeted against Dak and are always willing to give other QBs a ton of more free passes and chances than they are ever willing to give to Dak.

If Trevor Lawrence is great, his talent will shine even on bad teams. Stafford has always been talented. The Rams didn't trade for him because he was average.. How can you watch that man sling the ball and not realize he has a better arm than 29 other QBs in the league?

Captain-Crash · Jan 23, 2022

elway

KJJ · Jan 23, 2022

Steve007 said:
Now the cowboys arn't as loaded as the rams, but early in the season they were the best offense in the NFL.

Tyron started missing games with injuries and they started having issues on the OL. Terrence Steele struggled at LT trying to replace him. We started juggling Connor Williams and Connor McGovern and neither were consistent. Our running game disappeared. Some of that contributed to Dak’s struggles. The penalties started adding up as the season went on. Everything changed after the Denver game.

Gaede · Jan 23, 2022

jwooten15 said:
I’m talking about pre-Dak years. I can’t keep repeating myself. Historian discussions don’t matter right now. Bottom line is that Dak has underperformed, relative to talent around him. Objectively, there is no room for debate there.

I totally agree. Stafford, similarly, has been known as an underachiever. It's taken him 12 years to win in the playoffs, with a team loaded with first rounders and all pros. Ramsey, Donald, Kupp. These are arguably the best players in the NFL at their position.

Point being. He's had twice as long to reach this point as Dak, and has chronically underachieved relative to his status and skill and surrounding talent, so it is the stupidest thing to compare him to Dak at this point in his career.

Comparing Dak and Wentz, totally fair game. Same draft, same chances of success.

jwooten15 · Jan 23, 2022

Swagger said:
The only explanation I can come to is that the blind support isn't because of his actual QB play (as it can't be for any objective individual with sight and a basic understanding of the game) but other reasons, whatever they may be.

what could those reasons possibly be though? I am so confused by the unyielding loyalty, no matter how he plays. It can’t be ONLY that he’s a Cowboy because they will freely criticize early any other player on the team

Captain-Crash · Jan 23, 2022

jwooten15 said:
what could those reasons possibly be though? I am so confused by the unyielding loyalty, no matter how he plays. It can’t be ONLY that he’s a Cowboy because they will freely criticize early any other player on the team

pretty simple, I haven't met one on here who likes Romo? hum.

star-ving · Jan 23, 2022

Romo_To_Dez said:
How is the great Trevor Lawrence doing with the Jaguars right now. How you will give certain QBs a pass for being on bad teams. But use the bad team narrative against Dak proves more and more how some fans have a hatred or agenda that specifically targeted against Dak and are always willing to give other QBs a ton of more free passes and chances than they are ever willing to give to Dak.

I'll take Bridgewater and Crab-legs Winston over Dak.

Have a nice day.

jwooten15 · Jan 23, 2022

Gaede said:
I totally agree. Stafford, similarly, has been known as an underachiever. It's taken him 12 years to win in the playoffs, with a team loaded with first rounders and all pros. Ramsey, Donald, Kupp. These are arguably the best players in the NFL at their position.

Point being. He's had twice as long to reach this point as Dak, and has chronically underachieved relative to his status and skill, so it is the stupidest thing to compare him to Dak.

Comparing Dak and Went,l, totally fair game. Same draft, same chances of success.

okay, I get what you’re saying now. You’re not here to blindly cover for Dak.. you just want to make more valid comps. I hear you there.

I’d give nearly anything for Dak, and the team, to figure it out. One great run would ease so much of my frustration. It just kills me to see worse teams do more than the Cowboys.

starcity214 · Jan 23, 2022

Ken said:
Loser mentality is blaming everything on one player when we committed 14 penalties and didn't get them off the field on defense.

Loser mentality is blaming the one player trying to run an offense with RB who can't move.

Loser mentality is harping childishly on the performance of other team's qbs calling out ours.

Pathetic.

Loser mentality is making excuses when things aren't "perfect" for a QB to have a chance to win

By default, there will always be adversity in a game and you have to hope your stars are good enough to overcome it!

We really are no better than the titans and 49ers (their luck will run out soon enough) the difference is that at least they know what they have at QB while our fans and GM try to make it seem like we have Mahomes at QB lol

Gaede · Jan 23, 2022

jwooten15 said:
okay, I get what you’re saying now. You’re not here to blindly cover for Dak.. you just want to make more valid comps. I hear you there.

I’d give nearly anything for Dak, and the team, to figure it out. One great run would ease so much of my frustration. It just kills me to see worse teams do more than the Cowboys.

Same here. I don't care who the QB is as long as we win. Sick of losing, and sick of missed opportunities

star-ving · Jan 23, 2022

Romo_To_Dez said:
The same fans who have spent time over and over again defending Romo, by always downplaying the talent he had around him. I guess every other QB in NFL history is okay to defend on this forum except for Dak.

Romo and Dak are both stat-machines and regular-season entertainment. Nothing more.

Steve007 · Jan 23, 2022

khiladi said:
Dak was COMPLETE GARBAGE when Amari wasn’t here. Dak has proven himself complete trash when he’s played on an offense that has WRs like the worse in the league, let alone garbage rosters like the Bengals have been playing with for years.

The Dak fan

KJJ said:
Tyron started missing games with injuries and they started having issues on the OL. Terrence Steele struggled at LT trying to replace him. We started juggling Connor Williams and Connor McGovern and neither were consistent. Our running game disappeared. Some of that contributed to Dak’s struggles. The penalties started adding up as the season went on. Everything changed after the Denver game.

burrow was sacked 9 times he has a bad O-Line and he overcame that and won the game.

Ken · Jan 23, 2022

jwooten15 said:
Loser mentality is absolving Mr. $40m from blame because he didn’t have 10 hall of famers around him.

Mr. 17 million just needed an average rb.

He just needed to not constantly in 3rd and forever because our highest paid RB is slow as molasses and we had so many penalties.

atlantacowboy · Jan 23, 2022

Not sure why this is news to anyone. If you can't see the difference between these guys, you truly don't watch enough football.

star-ving · Jan 23, 2022

Multiple choice question:

Choose the Quarterback that doesn't belong other than by the first letter of the name.

A) Prescott
B) Marino
C) Moon
D) Manning

Ken · Jan 23, 2022

khiladi said:
Stafford throws picks, because unlike Dak, he trusts his arm and can throw dimes. He’s not a coward and goes down slinging, even when he’s on a trash roster. He’s like JG, except has way better physical tools. And both of them are playing in the NFC championship game,

We got “Captain Calf-Injury” who gets scared when he sees a zone defense.

So you are saying if he was throwing picks indiscriminately because he "trusted his arm" you would be totally fine with it?

The idiocy knows no bounds... :facepalm:

Steve007 · Jan 23, 2022

Hypotenoose said:
Can’t disagree with the Dak assessment. In the end, however, Jerry is the root cause of this generational mess. I’d love it if fixing the QB position were the only issue between the Cowboys and a Super Bowl.

True. Jerry is the biggest problem. One of the problems is Jerry paying too much for average players. Dak's contract will be an example of that failure.

Ken · Jan 23, 2022

star-ving said:
Multiple choice question:

Choose the Quarterback that doesn't belong

A) Prescott
B) Marino
C) Moon
D) Manning

Is that Eli Manning?

Other than that, 3 qb's that have never won a super bowl.

Got me..

star-ving · Jan 23, 2022

Ken said:
Is that Eli Manning?

Other than that, 3 qb's that have never won a super bowl.

Got me..

Any of the Mannings really. And you failed.

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