If Dak can read defenses, how is he putting up elite stats?

BobbyFlame469 · Jan 23, 2022

Is his natural quarterback ability that good?

Playmaker247 · Jan 23, 2022

Yeah the Dak can’t read defense thing is silly. If his coaches suck and he can’t read defenses then how in the world is he still in the league??

Playmaker3128 · Jan 23, 2022

I don’t think it’s that he can’t read defenses. I think however he struggles between being to conservative and aggressive. Sometimes he’s just too conservative in games and won’t take chances.

I for the life of me don’t understand why he won’t use his legs anymore either. Even if it’s just to pick up a first down or two. Keep the d honest

nightrain · Jan 23, 2022

Opposing defenses have found that Dak is much less adept at identifying coverages when they don't show a look, stack the LOS and drop guys back at the snap. It limits his pre-snap read forcing him to run his progression after the snap.

fansince68 · Jan 23, 2022

He does it against weaker teams and......he has an OC that insists on passing more and running less.

MysteryIceGuro · Jan 23, 2022

BobbyFlame469 said:
Is his natural quarterback ability that good?

Because his stats get skewed playing in this horrible division. Then throw in a couple of meddling teams annually like the Falcons and the Panthers and there you have it.

Kevinicus · Jan 23, 2022

BobbyFlame469 said:
Is his natural quarterback ability that good?

Trajan · Jan 23, 2022

nightrain said:
Opposing defenses have found that Dak is much less adept at identifying coverages when they don't show a look, stack the LOS and drop guys back at the snap. It limits his pre-snap read forcing him to run his progression after the snap.

This. Watch the San Fran game, they would stack the line, look like a blitz, then drop players out. I assume it is confusing Dak, and what we will see more and more teams use against us, until we create a solution.

MysteryIceGuro · Jan 23, 2022

Playmaker247 said:
Yeah the Dak can’t read defense thing is silly. If his coaches suck and he can’t read defenses then how in the world is he still in the league??

Jared Goff couldn’t read defenses and went to a Super Bowl and is still on a team. Reading complex defenses isn’t necessarily a requirement to be an NFL QB. Dak can only handle simple coverages. Anything more than that and he panics, takes sacks, etc. what a great QB we have :facepalm:

J_Allen · Jan 23, 2022

Stats only tell half the story. Some argued that Jaylon Smith was a good player based on his stats. He was actually garbage.

Dak was not very good after week 6, but keep hanging on to those stats. They really got us far.

Oh, and Dez even tweeted about it but I'm sure you know more than Dez also.

nightrain · Jan 23, 2022

Trajan said:
This. Watch the San Fran game, they would stack the line, look like a blitz, then drop players out. I assume it is confusing Dak, and what we will see more and more teams use against us, until we create a solution.

They have been doing it since the Denver game. Apparently, McCarthy and Moore perform zero self scouting.

atlantacowboy · Jan 23, 2022

BobbyFlame469 said:
Is his natural quarterback ability that good?

We play a LOT of the worst teams in the NFL and he feasts on them. Dak owns the NFC EAST. He put up 17 of his 37 TD passes in 6 NFC East games....... But go look at what he did against playoff bound teams. Outside of Philly, he was 1-5 against playoff teams.

Haimerej · Jan 23, 2022

Most people should understand that Dak's criticism is mostly next-level type criticism. When guys like Warner are showing how these systems are supposed to be run, he's an elite guy. He's showing you what elite looks like.

All QBs miss reads, get pressured, etc. Being able to overcome those issues requires knowing the details and taking the next step.

CATCH17 · Jan 23, 2022

BobbyFlame469 said:
Is his natural quarterback ability that good?

Cooper Rush is terrible and in his first NFL start he threw for 300+ yards.

Maybe stats don’t matter and they are for losers like Belichick says.

starcity214 · Jan 23, 2022

BobbyFlame469 said:
Is his natural quarterback ability that good?

If you actually watch the games, you can tell Dak struggles when teams play their base defense but as soon as we get 3 scores down and the defense starts playing soft, Dak turns into Mahomes.

No way around it.

I never understood why teams do that but I guess they don't care about stats and will gladly give up the yards in exchange for game clock.

Adreme · Jan 23, 2022

fansince68 said:
He does it against weaker teams and......he has an OC that insists on passing more and running less.

Weaker teams like the playoff Pats that he passed for 445 against or the playoff Raiders whom he had 375. Yes not every game against a playoff team was great, but that is true for most QBs. Mahomes had some pretty bad games this season against good teams but some pretty great ones as well.

MysteryIceGuro · Jan 23, 2022

starcity214 said:
If you actually watch the games, you can tell Dak struggles when teams play their base defense but as soon as we get 3 scores down and the defense starts playing soft, Dak turns into Mahomes.

No way around it.

I never understood why teams do that but I guess they don't care about stats and will gladly give up the yards in exchange for game clock.

He turns into Mahomes cause he has nothing to lose and defenses loosen up. He plays like a scaredy cat 99% of the time, hence why we lose in many games. Zeke sucking, O-line sucking, OC sucking, and penalties don’t help of course, but blame cannot be taken away.

J_Allen · Jan 23, 2022

CATCH17 said:
Cooper Rush is terrible and in his first NFL start he threw for 300+ yards.

Maybe stats don’t matter and they are for losers like Belichick says.

They're also for people who don't know football.

starcity214 · Jan 23, 2022

AmariChill said:
He turns into Mahomes cause he has nothing to lose and defenses loosen up. He plays like a scaredy cat 99% of the time, hence why we lose in many games. Zeke sucking, O-line sucking, OC sucking, and penalties don’t help of course, but blame cannot be taken away.

Dak is like a fat kid in an all you can eat buffet in those situations lol

So many wide open checkdowns, so little time!

J_Allen · Jan 23, 2022

I wonder if that wishes he had taken less money? You know not as much pressure would be on him and the team could have signed or retained better players.

Nope, he insisted on the maximum. And this is what we're getting. Another early playoff exit and a lot of ugly games after week 6 when teams figured him out.

Hey but those stats though...

If Dak can read defenses, how is he putting up elite stats?

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