Dallas Cowboys’ Kelvin Joseph is a person of interest in Dallas murder investigation

Acceptablename · Apr 15, 2022

BoysfanfromCanada said:
If you're a friend of someone who made it to the nfl and can make himself an awesome living, why risk his career and life over keeping it real. They're all idiots.

Yes this gangster culture is ruination.

John813 · Apr 15, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
Chido, Connor and Gregory were good played and got paid well once they left here. They are nothing like the rest of those guys.

Yea, I think Chido could of been better if:
1. He was able to stay healthy during the TC/offseason
2. If Dallas wasn't so distracting to young players.

Connor is a decent guard. Struggled with penalties last year but is the typical starting guard- in that most have some type of weakness. We've gotten spoiled by elite players on the line that some guy being bullrushed a few times makes you think he sucks. If it wasn't for the grabbing(holding) he would of gotten a bigger deal imo.
Gregory is a good player ruined by the NFL rules on weed. I'm on record saying that the Cowboys were dumb to think he was the best edge on the market, but it doesn't make him a bad player. Just thought Jones and others were better.

Our 2nd round record is way better recently(2014-present) than the prior years. Not everyone pans out but no team consistently nails the 2nd.

CalPolyTechnique · Apr 15, 2022

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Texas will not charge anybody with accessory.

Now that's one sentence if you don't understand that, then there's no hope.

Lulz, you have no clue of what you're talking about.

Is "law of parties" fundamentally different than "accessory to a crime?"

Shut it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ry-challenged-by-defense-lawyer-idUSKCN10S249

Acceptablename · Apr 15, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
I never would have imagined the guy that had obvious issues and red flags everywhere well before we wasted a 2nd round pick on him would somehow find himself in a mess.

It so confirms all preconceived notions fair or not

gimmesix · Apr 15, 2022

J_Allen said:
He's at the scene of a murder after hanging out with the wrong group of people. And do you really think LSU kicked him off the team just for weed? That was the last straw. The guy is ultra talented.

Are you intentionally being coy?

I don't know what he was suspended for. Could have been weed, could have been something else. You don't know, either.

His choice of who to hang out with appears to be poor. His choice to get involved, possibly start, an altercation was poor. Does not mean he killed anyone or that he's bad news. Innocent people are probably glad to not have you on a jury since you draw conclusions on so little evidence.

blueblood70 · Apr 15, 2022

Howboutdemcowboys31 said:
Kelvin
Randy
Jaylon
Escobar
Connor W
Hill
Chido wasn't great

We SUCK in the second round. Diggs and Lee the only successes and unfortunately for Lee his body failed him despite the work ethic

not great but not suck dude what a drama queen

first off

didnt chido play in the sb??
Cwill is a starter not great one but got paid and betting will start Randy lie Gregory umm how's that bad pick many here are upset we lost him so hes good players..

so that 75% of the 2nd rounders that are starter quality but not PB/HOF worthy that not suck..poor choice of words. I get the frustration but KJ isnt done oi men you all have him gone..smh

J_Allen · Apr 15, 2022

gimmesix said:
I don't know what he was suspended for. Could have been weed, could have been something else. You don't know, either.

His choice of who to hang out with appears to be poor. His choice to get involved, possibly start, an altercation was poor. Does not mean he killed anyone or that he's bad news. Innocent people are probably glad to not have you on a jury since you draw conclusions on so little evidence.

Yes, I do know. He failed a drug test.

plymkr · Apr 15, 2022

Captain-Crash said:
why can't we just go back to the hotboyz? all they did was dress up like women with high heels boots and furs.

Lol. Well KJ may be doing just that if he's convicted.

CalPolyTechnique · Apr 15, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
His face was all on camera. The necklace was just the icing on the cake.

Looking forward to seeing him as your new forum pic.

America's Cowboy · Apr 15, 2022

Rogerthat12 said:
Yes, via his lawyer, in the car but not the shooter.

Some came after me for being supposedly too harsh and too emotionally invested against Kelvin Joseph. How I was wrong to pre-judge him without evidence that he was in the vehicle?

Time has proven once again who was right and who was wrong. Any apologies?

MapleLeaf · Apr 15, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
I mean if the guy feared the guy with the gun then yeah it makes sense for him not to say something.

He is an NFL player. He has resources available to him that most regular citizens would not.

If there was legitimate fear of the shooter he could do something about this with the support of his agent, the NFLPA, the league, a good lawyer and the law enforcement.

Time will tell what are the true facts surrounding the tragedy, and the sequence of events and rationale, but thinking he had no options doesn't seem plausible given the type of status and support network he has available.

If one puts on their Sherlock Holmes hat then, "When you have eliminated the impossible, what remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

KJ had lots of help to support him and protect him from the shooter in the ensuing days after the incident. The fact that this did not come out until now, and the authorities are looking for others to piece together the puzzle must mean, however improbable, that KJ is now being investigated for his side of the story and it is not just a clean, "I was a total innocent!" situation.

He is in between a rock and hard place. He is going to need a good lawyer.

Sydla · Apr 15, 2022

CalPolyTechnique said:
Lulz, you have no clue of what you're talking about.

Is "law of parties" fundamentally different than "accessory to a crime?"

Shut it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ry-challenged-by-defense-lawyer-idUSKCN10S249

Times like this remind me of two things:

One, Google attorneys are funny. Two, real attorneys who don't really understand the law are terrifying.

Acceptablename · Apr 15, 2022

gimmesix said:
I don't know what he was suspended for. Could have been weed, could have been something else. You don't know, either.

His choice of who to hang out with appears to be poor. His choice to get involved, possibly start, an altercation was poor. Does not mean he killed anyone or that he's bad news. Innocent people are probably glad to not have you on a jury since you draw conclusions on so little evidence.

This isnt the point. He probably didn’t pull the trigger. It’s his history and he will be drawn to more gangster trouble book it

Silverstar · Apr 15, 2022

JoeyBoy718 said:
We should extend him now while his stock is low.

LOL!
Ohhh man you got me.

gimmesix · Apr 15, 2022

McKDaddy said:
So, you don't give any credence to "where there's smoke, there's fire""

Or, "trouble follows that person"?

Just saying that at some point you have to accept it's not all coincidence or bad luck when a person is in murky situations. Again, I'm not suggesting any conclusion in this specific case. Just that once you've watched this go down over a lifetime you learn to accept that if something smells fishy, it probably is.

As far as anything I've read, Joseph has not been in trouble legally before now. Maybe whatever he did in college escalated to this point, but it's a stretch to say, "Oh, he was suspended once for violating team rules; he's going to be involved in a murder someday."

Obviously, the choices he made that night don't appear to be good ones, but if all he did was hang out with some friends and get into a brief fight, that's not much "trouble." The question is whether he was involved in the shooting, and I don't think we can draw that conclusion just based on what we've been given. Maybe he was, but there's no reason to assume it.

I'm not absolving him of putting himself in a bad situation or even possibly being the ringleader of the bad situation. We just don't know his level of involvement, so there's really no need to speculate and possibly make it out to be more than it is.

Landryhat73 · Apr 15, 2022

If he was in the car and wasn’t the shooter, he certainly knows the shooter. Dallas should be giving him an ultimatum - Give up the shooter or you contract is terminated.

baltcowboy · Apr 15, 2022

darthseinfeld said:
I saw his lawyers statement. However I didn't see anything that presents him as any kind of hero

I am speculating like most of us have been doing since ****NOT-AN-OFFICIAL-SOURCE*** did a whole show on this last night. :laugh:

I think he lawyered up and made those statements to the media and the victim’s family because he is going to tell the police what happened. It won’t come out until they arrest someone but believe me the police can’t get anyone without Joseph‘s testimony.

Doomsday · Apr 15, 2022

The offseason just keeps getting better.

Looks like Brown is going to be starting opposite of Diggs.

speedkilz88 · Apr 15, 2022

J_Allen said:
Yes, I do know. He failed a drug test.

He was suspended one game for the failed drug test. He was not kicked out of LSU. They wanted him to move to safety because Stingley was going to start at CB as a freshman and the 2nd round cb from the 2020 draft had come back from a NCAA suspension to start at the other CB spot. So he entered the transfer portal and went to Kentucky.

darthseinfeld · Apr 15, 2022

baltcowboy said:
I am speculating like most of us have been doing since ****NOT-AN-OFFICIAL-SOURCE*** did a whole show on this last night.I think he lawyered up and made those statements to the media and the victim’s family because he is going to tell the police what happened. It won’t come out until they arrest someone but believe me the police can’t get anyone without Joseph‘s testimony.

Of course he is. If he can salvage a multi million dollar career, he will do everything in his power to do it

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