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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.

Hey! Newsflash!!! All NFL teams have drafted players who played a certain position in college and switched their position in the pros.... this has been going on for decades. Have you just started watch NFL football??
 

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I see the usual suspects are rushing to defend ownership that averages a wild card playoff win every decade. Jerry and his ego thank you from the bottom of his wallet.
It's ok, you found your home thread where you, and your fellow negative nellies, can wallow in your misery.

lol.
 

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One word: Predictable! As usual some fans have already come to a conclusion on our draft before we’ve seen any of these players in training camp or preseason games.

people complained about Micah pick. cowboys fans complain about everything. looking at this overall draft, i think we did good. filled needs and added physicality and attitude with these players.

Needs draft - A
BPA probably a C grade
 

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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.
Not a reach, they needed an O-linemen at guard that can potentially slide over to LT when Tyron retires. Tyler Smith was not going to be available if we attempted to pick him in the second round. He is a good pick in a position of need. I like the pick.

@Sully I bet you are one of those guys that complain about Zeke not running like Zeke anymore. Yet when we get a lineman that's going to help Zeke return to being Zeke, you complain that we reached. No matter what, you always have something to complain about.
 

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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.
Umm, I guess it's why everybody always thinks they have good draft picks, which is fine THEY feel like THEY got there guys so good for THEM. If they pick the players that the FANS want all the time you would be complaining about that
 

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people complained about Micah pick. cowboys fans complain about everything. looking at this overall draft, i think we did good. filled needs and added physicality and attitude with these players.

Needs draft - A
BPA probably a C grade

We’ll find out how well we did this summer and during the regular season. I make no judgments immediately after the draft. We need to see these players in pads at the NFL level that will determine how well we did.
 

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It's ok, you found your home thread where you, and your fellow negative nellies, can wallow in your misery.

lol.
Maybe if you sent me some silver and blue pop poms and some Dak jammies with feet in em like your wearing I d be less negative . LOL! I keep asking Reality set up the play pen zone for you and your buddies who don't live here on earth with the rest of us but he never does.
 

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Maybe if you sent me some silver and blue pop poms and some Dak jammies with feet in em like your wearing I d be less negative . LOL! I keep asking Reality set up the play pen zone for you and your buddies who don't live here on earth with the rest of us but he never does.
Hey ..this is a Dallas Cowboys fan site....not sure if you ever looked into where the word "fan" came from but it is derived from the word "fanatic".

Perhaps look up those definitions and then you will understand how to act more appropriately on this site.

Unless, of course, you are a rival fan in disguise, then your act makes much money re sense around here.
 

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Hey ..this is a Dallas Cowboys fan site....not sure if you ever looked into where the word "fan" came from but it is derived from the word "fanatic".

Perhaps look up those definitions and then you will understand how to act more appropriately on this site.

Unless, of course, you are a rival fan in disguise, then your act makes much money re sense around here.
Pssst: the owner sold the "fanatics" up the river a quarter century ago, guess you didn't get the memo.

Anyway you better get a turbo charger for your sunshine pump because it isn't get the job done.
 

john van brocklin

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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.

We have not been to a nfcc game in 27 years.
This has to show we are fundamentally flawed in how we conduct business
 

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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.
You sound like the guy in room that swears he is the smartest man there. You probably had a point until you talked about using players different than what they did in college. Unless the player is top 10 pick the chances are he will be asked to some things outside his comfort zone. Zack martin awesome college OT but his traits translated to guard. Pretty much unless you were the a super Stud LT in college you could very well be playing guard or RT in the NFL. Same deal with edge players, light DE will be used in stand up "OLB" type duties and vice versa, heavy DE could be used in 3T. Sounds like to me Dallas FO did not like your draft board.
 

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Is this the baby cry thread? Count me in, 26 years!!!
 

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another thread on how we suck and our drafts suck and we havent won a playoff game in 78 years. Thanks for that... It had been at least 3 hours since Id seen a thread like this. I was starting to get bored.
 

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Most All-Pro draft picks since 2010:

Cowboys: 9
49ers: 7
Five other teams: 6

2010: Dez Bryant, Sean Lee
2011: Tyron Smith, DeMarco Murray
2013: Travis Frederick
2014: Zack Martin
2016: Ezekiel Elliott
2020: Trevon Diggs
2021: Micah Parsons

We suck at free agency but we draft very well
No one on this board imagined Trevon All-Pro in year 2. Takes time to develop, Bossman should take a huge step
 

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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.

I tend to agree.
But drafting MICAH as an LB and using him as a DE was great.
Didn't know the Cowboys were that imaginative.
 

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This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.
I could show you a reach on every team
What you call a reach, the guys who get paid to know see as worthy picks
Players with off field issues get drafted every year, not just by Jerry
I don’t always agree with a particular pick but I don’t think I’m smarter than an actual GM
Dallas actually drafts very well compared to the league so there is that
 

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Our drafting process over recent years is pretty good barring a couple of head scratchers...but likely won't win anything with this ownership.
That said... the Ravens haven't won anything with their drafting prowess since their Ray Lewis and Ed Reed Defensive Super Bowl.
 
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