Cowboys Vs NFL 1st Round Pick Draft Success

JayFord said:

Dallas does VERY well in the first round

its just the issue of taking a project in the 2nd round that needs to be fixed

2nd round is for STARTERS......this isnt where you take projects you take players who can contribute right away

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Exactly . . . Got my fingers crossed this year

Ken said:

I was listening to "Analyzing the Pick" on DC.com. Nick Eatman had an interesting stat that I would love the "Cowboys don't know anything about Football" guys to attempt to explain.

Last 5 years, there have been 160 first-round picks. 21 of them have made the pro bowl for around a 20% pro bowl rate.

The Cowboys, over the last 20 years have had 19 first-round picks and 14 of them have made the pro bowl for a 70% pro bowl rate.

I thought this was a very interesting stat and one that really underscores the success the Cowboys have had thru the draft.

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I really don't doubt the Cowboys have had success in the first round. But so have many other teams. Drafting good players in later rounds would be more indicative of how well they draft. Plus Jerry in the past has thrown away many 2nd round selections on potential type players. The Cowboys don't take chances on drafting QBs in the first round either. That's the most important position in the whole game and drafting a QB is riskier than most positions because if the QB isn't a star he usually gets considered a bust.

LOL

pro-bowl means nothing. Jaylon Smith made the pro-bowl and he was an awful player for us

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Just give up on them winning a SB. Just look at it as if it was one of your favorite TV shows. You tune in because you know the characters and it's highly entertaining.

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Good point

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Does that mean Anthony Spencer never made it or what? Who drops out of the my made it list?

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Spencer made the Pro Bowl in 2012. You need to add Felix Jones and Bobby Carpenter to the list of those who didn't make it. Ekuban and Carver should come off since those picks were more than 20 years ago.

I don't believe that Dallas only had 19 1st round picks in the last 20 years. They had none in 2019 (Coop trade) and 2004 (traded out of 22 to allow the Bills to take JP Losman so first pick was Julius Jones in round 2) but two in 2005 (Ware and Spears) and 2008 (Felix Jones and Mike Jenkins), so 20 in total: 15 made the Pro Bowl at some point; 5 didn't (according to your list, which seems largely correct, though I haven't double-checked).

In one way this is even more impressive than Eatman suggests (75% hit rate, instead of 70%). It is misleading, however, to compare our hit rate over 20 years to the league average over the past five years, given that the longer time frame affords guys that many more chances at making a Pro Bowl.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Just give up on them winning a SB. Just look at it as if it was one of your favorite TV shows. You tune in because you know the characters and it's highly entertaining.

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Good point! The only thing is this TV show always has an extremely disappointing end EVERY SEASON!

RS12 said:

Pro bowl meaningless. All pro all that counts.

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I wouldn't say pro bowl is meaningless. Sure all pro means best player at position but pro bowl does mean top ~10%.

dargonking999 said:

Ok then go run the numbers for all Pro. I am willing to bet you'll see the same results. The cowboys problem hasn't been Drafting. It's been coaching, team management, FA, and injuries. Drafting is the least of our problems. Do they do some dumb stuff every so often, sure. But the reason we haven't had success is because of so much more then drafting. Which is even worse lol

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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/allpro.htm
Over 10 years how many Dallas ALL Pros per year.
2011 = 3
2012 = 3
2013 = 1
2014 = 8
2015 = 4
2016 = 5
2017 = 3
2018 = 6
2019 = 1
2020 = 1
2021 = 4