Fowler, Lve and Hooker could be the key for our D

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I listened to a podcast from Skywalker this morning discussing these 3 veterans being the key for this year's defense:

-Fowler is a former top 3 pick that netted him a big contract after a breakout season with the Rams, where many considered him a draft bust with the Jags. Quinn recruited him to Florida, then to the Falcons, but was fired after 5 games in a covid season where he didn't get much time to work with him.

-Both Lve/Hooker have injury histories, where at the moment the team doesn't have any quality, proven backup behind them. Both have flashed early in their careers, but have failed to match that prior production.

Hooker's snaps were limited last season by design and he played more down, but this yr, he is expected to fill the centerfielder role, which is very important in Quinn's scheme. Has legitimate instincts and is a far better tackler then Kazee, but can he make it through an entire season? Looks like Wilson would fill in if he misses any time.

We all know the story about Lve, terrific rookie season, but hasn't looked the same since that neck injury against Philly a few years ago. He is a little more stiff these days, but still can be an effective player. His role is pretty much to take on blockers, so Parsons can chase. He isn't just a two down player as he can cover somewhat and has the ability to play all linebacker spots, which is important if Quinn wants to continue to use Parsons as a chess piece.
 

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I listened to a podcast from Skywalker this morning discussing these 3 veterans being the key for this year's defense:

-Fowler is a former top 3 pick that netted him a big contract after a breakout season with the Rams, where many considered him a draft bust with the Jags. Quinn recruited him to Florida, then to the Falcons, but was fired after 5 games in a covid season where he didn't get much time to work with him.

-Both Lve/Hooker have injury histories, where at the moment the team doesn't have any quality, proven backup behind them. Both have flashed early in their careers, but have failed to match that prior production.

Hooker's snaps were limited last season by design and he played more down, but this yr, he is expected to fill the centerfielder role, which is very important in Quinn's scheme. Has legitimate instincts and is a far better tackler then Kazee, but can he make it through an entire season? Looks like Wilson would fill in if he misses any time.

We all know the story about Lve, terrific rookie season, but hasn't looked the same since that neck injury against Philly a few years ago. He is a little more stiff these days, but still can be an effective player. His role is pretty much to take on blockers, so Parsons can chase. He isn't just a two down player as he can cover somewhat and has the ability to play all linebacker spots, which is important if Quinn wants to continue to use Parsons as a chess piece.
Very well could. I think all three can play better then they did last season.
 

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Will be interesting to see a passrush package that features D Law, Parsons, Williams, and Fowler

If you rush Law from LDE and Williams from RDE— you can move Parsons and Fowler around the formation as LBers and disguise a lot of looks and bring pressure in creative ways.

The key will be whether we can stop the run effectively, and hold up in coverage and avoid the big play.

Last year we were meh vs the run and gave up far too many big plays… shore those areas up and our passrushers should be able to eat.
 

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I listened to a podcast from Skywalker this morning discussing these 3 veterans being the key for this year's defense:

-Fowler is a former top 3 pick that netted him a big contract after a breakout season with the Rams, where many considered him a draft bust with the Jags. Quinn recruited him to Florida, then to the Falcons, but was fired after 5 games in a covid season where he didn't get much time to work with him.

-Both Lve/Hooker have injury histories, where at the moment the team doesn't have any quality, proven backup behind them. Both have flashed early in their careers, but have failed to match that prior production.

Hooker's snaps were limited last season by design and he played more down, but this yr, he is expected to fill the centerfielder role, which is very important in Quinn's scheme. Has legitimate instincts and is a far better tackler then Kazee, but can he make it through an entire season? Looks like Wilson would fill in if he misses any time.

We all know the story about Lve, terrific rookie season, but hasn't looked the same since that neck injury against Philly a few years ago. He is a little more stiff these days, but still can be an effective player. His role is pretty much to take on blockers, so Parsons can chase. He isn't just a two down player as he can cover somewhat and has the ability to play all linebacker spots, which is important if Quinn wants to continue to use Parsons as a chess piece.
While I disagree those 3 would be the keys to this defense I agree with most of what you wrote; other than LVE's role being to take on blockers. He is not very good at that and even if he were it wouldn't be his role. Also his coverage has been horrible lately but hopefully another year away from the injury and he shows some of that ability again.
 

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The key for the D is for our defensive front to step up and become physical. We need to be much better against the run and improve our pass rush.
 

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I listened to a podcast from Skywalker this morning discussing these 3 veterans being the key for this year's defense:

-Fowler is a former top 3 pick that netted him a big contract after a breakout season with the Rams, where many considered him a draft bust with the Jags. Quinn recruited him to Florida, then to the Falcons, but was fired after 5 games in a covid season where he didn't get much time to work with him.

-Both Lve/Hooker have injury histories, where at the moment the team doesn't have any quality, proven backup behind them. Both have flashed early in their careers, but have failed to match that prior production.

Hooker's snaps were limited last season by design and he played more down, but this yr, he is expected to fill the centerfielder role, which is very important in Quinn's scheme. Has legitimate instincts and is a far better tackler then Kazee, but can he make it through an entire season? Looks like Wilson would fill in if he misses any time.

We all know the story about Lve, terrific rookie season, but hasn't looked the same since that neck injury against Philly a few years ago. He is a little more stiff these days, but still can be an effective player. His role is pretty much to take on blockers, so Parsons can chase. He isn't just a two down player as he can cover somewhat and has the ability to play all linebacker spots, which is important if Quinn wants to continue to use Parsons as a chess piece.
Hooker and LVE played better as the season went on but if they get injured next season, no one would be surprised. I didn’t realize that Fowler is only 28 years of age and was a top 3 draft choice. Sam Williams has stole his thunder after the draft but we will see what happens in camp. Good depth players to me. JAGS……
 

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Hopefully Cox wins the job over LVE. Fowler is going to be heavily rotated.
Hooker would be an upgrade of Kazee, but I'd rather Hooker be close to the line.
 

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I listened to a podcast from Skywalker this morning discussing these 3 veterans being the key for this year's defense:

-Fowler is a former top 3 pick that netted him a big contract after a breakout season with the Rams, where many considered him a draft bust with the Jags. Quinn recruited him to Florida, then to the Falcons, but was fired after 5 games in a covid season where he didn't get much time to work with him.

-Both Lve/Hooker have injury histories, where at the moment the team doesn't have any quality, proven backup behind them. Both have flashed early in their careers, but have failed to match that prior production.

Hooker's snaps were limited last season by design and he played more down, but this yr, he is expected to fill the centerfielder role, which is very important in Quinn's scheme. Has legitimate instincts and is a far better tackler then Kazee, but can he make it through an entire season? Looks like Wilson would fill in if he misses any time.

We all know the story about Lve, terrific rookie season, but hasn't looked the same since that neck injury against Philly a few years ago. He is a little more stiff these days, but still can be an effective player. His role is pretty much to take on blockers, so Parsons can chase. He isn't just a two down player as he can cover somewhat and has the ability to play all linebacker spots, which is important if Quinn wants to continue to use Parsons as a chess piece.

It's a reason why he, Malik and LVE are more vet minimum wage, one year deal guys. i dunno if i can announce them as keys for our defense.
They are key complimentary role players - they are not true core difference makers such as Parsons and Diggs.

What's your Plan B, if any of those guys are hurt or ineffective ?
Whose your quality backup guys behind Hooker? (assuming Malik takes the starting FS role).
Donovan Wilson ? Israel M?

- i dunno if Hooker will ever regain the range and mobility he had before the achilles tendon tear - those are harder- difficult to return to form vs ACL's
He was a very noted ball hawk and top 10 overall talent during his draft class year. Its still a gamble with him.

- LVE finally managed to play a full year without an injury miss since his rookie year. He's decent-serviceable but he's not a difference maker.
Whose your backup Plan B option - if LVE gets hurt or ineffective ?

- Fowler is a rotational rush situational player - he either can get hot and give us 9+ sacks, or we won't hear from him.
 

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I listened to a podcast from Skywalker this morning discussing these 3 veterans being the key for this year's defense:

-Fowler is a former top 3 pick that netted him a big contract after a breakout season with the Rams, where many considered him a draft bust with the Jags. Quinn recruited him to Florida, then to the Falcons, but was fired after 5 games in a covid season where he didn't get much time to work with him.

-Both Lve/Hooker have injury histories, where at the moment the team doesn't have any quality, proven backup behind them. Both have flashed early in their careers, but have failed to match that prior production.

Hooker's snaps were limited last season by design and he played more down, but this yr, he is expected to fill the centerfielder role, which is very important in Quinn's scheme. Has legitimate instincts and is a far better tackler then Kazee, but can he make it through an entire season? Looks like Wilson would fill in if he misses any time.

We all know the story about Lve, terrific rookie season, but hasn't looked the same since that neck injury against Philly a few years ago. He is a little more stiff these days, but still can be an effective player. His role is pretty much to take on blockers, so Parsons can chase. He isn't just a two down player as he can cover somewhat and has the ability to play all linebacker spots, which is important if Quinn wants to continue to use Parsons as a chess piece.
Really would love to see Fowler and Williams replace Randy's production.
We need them to.
 

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Our FO likely read the writing on the Statue of Liberty about "give us the downtrodden and crippled souls," etc, etc.
It seems fairly obvious that it went to their heads! :omg: Either that, or they're just extremely cheap bastids! :grin:
Our front office cheap ???
Get out of here !!!
:muttley::muttley::muttley:
 

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I don't believe in Malik hooker like alot of you. Even when he was healthy he wasn't some elite ball hawk in indy.
 

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Really would love to see Fowler and Williams replace Randy's production.
We need them to.

I'm actually anticipating that might very well be the case this season. I think it's likely for both of them to equal his production. Of course, Tank Lawrence might tend to cut into their production to some extent, with his extensive reps to be had. I'm excited about our chances to put forth a wicked pass rush this year. Our DE depth should make chances good for some steady pressure to make life tough for opposing QBs.
 
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Will be interesting to see a passrush package that features D Law, Parsons, Williams, and Fowler

If you rush Law from LDE and Williams from RDE— you can move Parsons and Fowler around the formation as LBers and disguise a lot of looks and bring pressure in creative ways.

The key will be whether we can stop the run effectively, and hold up in coverage and avoid the big play.

Last year we were meh vs the run and gave up far too many big plays… shore those areas up and our passrushers should be able to eat.
You could also move DLaw inside as well as Williams.
 

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I'd argue the most important thing will be the DTs.
 
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