ESPN: Brandon Weeden takes shot at Jerry Jones and Jones likes it

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You'd like to think that Jones would question why O'Brien could seemingly get more out of Weeden and how other coaches are getting more out of their backups than Garrett, but I suspect when push comes to shove, loyalty will win out and Jones will rationalize why Garrett deserves to continue despite his clear screw ups.
 
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"I don't have an answer for that," he said. "I really don't have an answer. ... Our read on him that he was better coming into a ballgame, but the whole week of preparation and getting ready to play was where his inexperience and whatever was showing. This wasn't the case here. He had the whole week that Houston could prepare and I give their staff and give him their due. Good job."
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Nope. Weeden excelled in relief duty because he was able to just go have fun out here. It was only when he had extensive time with Jasn that he looked like crap. Yet another indictment on this coaching staff.
 
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Sydla said:
You'd like to think that Jones would question why O'Brien could seemingly get more out of Weeden and how other coaches are getting more out of their backups than Garrett, but I suspect when push comes to shove, loyalty will win out and Jones will rationalize why Garrett deserves to continue despite his clear screw ups.
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I keep hearing the Texans are getting more out of Weeden than Dallas did, but is his 15 of 24, 200-yard day against Tennessee much different than his 16 of 26, 246-yard day against New Orleans? He had one TD pass against the Saints and two Sunday, but that wasn't the primary difference. The primary difference is the Texans' defense pummeled the Titans.

Then as a backup the previous week, Weeden went 11 of 18 for 105 yards and a TD in a game Houston won 16-10, while in his first appearance for Dallas he came in for Romo against Philly and went 7 of 7 for 105 yards and 1 TD. His average per pass in those games and even in the Atlanta game was higher than what he has posted so far in Houston. His completion percentage also was higher in Dallas in all but one game over what he's done in Houston.

What's been good for him is he hasn't had the interceptions that hurt him against Atlanta and New England and he's playing on a team that's held both of the opponents to 10 or fewer points. If we had done that, he'd probably still be here and starting.

We're not good enough on defense or consistent enough in the running game to have a mediocre starter who can throw for 200 or less yards per game.

I've got issues with our play-calling and offensive scheme, but I just don't see what Weeden did in either of those games as an indictment of what we're doing. In fact, it seems that it's par for course with the numbers Weeden is putting up right now.
 
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Not taking up for Garrett but beating a Titans team that has mailed it in is not so much to be proud of. Titans have lost what...12 out of 13 home games?

I believe Garrett could win with Weeden against the Titans without their starting QB with nothing to play for.
 
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This is why you don't make fun of the idiot....... I hate having to explain my jokes
 

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before every one puts weeden in the hall let s see how he does in a game against a real qb and team the titans are awful.
 
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Brandon Weeden takes shot at Jerry Jones and Jones likes it

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Jerrah showed some class with his compliments of Weeden.

Good for him.

Weeden did nothing for 2 years.

The Cowboys should take some credit for developing him and giving him the reps that are paying off for the Texans.

No bad feelings should be evident.

No problem.

But I'm glad he left.

Had he have won a couple more for us we would still be keeping him and talking ourselves out of drafting somebody.

Its all a gift.
 
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Doesn't anybody in this organization ever get angry or embarrassed by the teams piss poor results???

Excuses upon excuses. Excuses are just well planned lies! Shouldn't the GM of the team KNOW what is wrong?

I'm not a billionaire like Jerry Jones...but I do know if I had so much time, money, and effort invested into something I would sure as hell want better than what this team had produced, especially the past 5 years.

As far as I'm concerned, last years winning season, and this years losing season are a wash. Factor in the remaining seasons that Red has been the HC, and we are average at best...NOT GOOD ENOUGH for the Dallas Cowboys!
 
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Jerrah is taking a direct shot at his own coaching staff:

"I don't have an answer for that," he said. "I really don't have an answer. ... Our read on him that he was better coming into a ballgame, but the whole week of preparation and getting ready to play was where his inexperience and whatever was showing. This wasn't the case here. He had the whole week that Houston could prepare and I give their staff and give him their due. Good job."

Jerrah isn't mad at Weeden because in a way he feels vindicated. He said Weeden could get the job done and now he is basically saying it was the coaching that has made the difference between Dallas and Houston.
 
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If that's true then it's an indictment of the staff that they didn't see the real issues with the team and thought bringing a bum like Matt Cassel in for Weeden was the difference maker. Cassel had better defense and run game and still stunk up the joint worse than Weeden. In fact Cassel got worse as the weeks progressed, maybe the crappy system we have had a hand in that?

Fact is there is overwhelming evidence now that any QB not named Tony Romo cannot overcome Jason Garrett.

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I keep hearing the Texans are getting more out of Weeden than Dallas did, but is his 15 of 24, 200-yard day against Tennessee much different than his 16 of 26, 246-yard day against New Orleans? He had one TD pass against the Saints and two Sunday, but that wasn't the primary difference. The primary difference is the Texans' defense pummeled the Titans.

Then as a backup the previous week, Weeden went 11 of 18 for 105 yards and a TD in a game Houston won 16-10, while in his first appearance for Dallas he came in for Romo against Philly and went 7 of 7 for 105 yards and 1 TD. His average per pass in those games and even in the Atlanta game was higher than what he has posted so far in Houston. His completion percentage also was higher in Dallas in all but one game over what he's done in Houston.

What's been good for him is he hasn't had the interceptions that hurt him against Atlanta and New England and he's playing on a team that's held both of the opponents to 10 or fewer points. If we had done that, he'd probably still be here and starting.

We're not good enough on defense or consistent enough in the running game to have a mediocre starter who can throw for 200 or less yards per game.

I've got issues with our play-calling and offensive scheme, but I just don't see what Weeden did in either of those games as an indictment of what we're doing. In fact, it seems that it's par for course with the numbers Weeden is putting up right now.
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gimmesix said:
I keep hearing the Texans are getting more out of Weeden than Dallas did, but is his 15 of 24, 200-yard day against Tennessee much different than his 16 of 26, 246-yard day against New Orleans? He had one TD pass against the Saints and two Sunday, but that wasn't the primary difference. The primary difference is the Texans' defense pummeled the Titans.

Then as a backup the previous week, Weeden went 11 of 18 for 105 yards and a TD in a game Houston won 16-10, while in his first appearance for Dallas he came in for Romo against Philly and went 7 of 7 for 105 yards and 1 TD. His average per pass in those games and even in the Atlanta game was higher than what he has posted so far in Houston. His completion percentage also was higher in Dallas in all but one game over what he's done in Houston.

What's been good for him is he hasn't had the interceptions that hurt him against Atlanta and New England and he's playing on a team that's held both of the opponents to 10 or fewer points. If we had done that, he'd probably still be here and starting.

We're not good enough on defense or consistent enough in the running game to have a mediocre starter who can throw for 200 or less yards per game.

I've got issues with our play-calling and offensive scheme, but I just don't see what Weeden did in either of those games as an indictment of what we're doing. In fact, it seems that it's par for course with the numbers Weeden is putting up right now.
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You nailed it. Weeden is doing the same things now that he was doing in Dallas. He also has the benefit of throwing to the Texans #1 WR while he didn't have that luxury while in Dallas. It is just the case of the grass being greener. Do it for the Texans and he is perceived as all world. Do it for Dallas and you suck. Reality is stuck in the middle. His performance in both places has been solid and steady, but nothing special.
 
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"Everybody here in this locker room has got my back," Weeden said during the radio interview. "They understand how this league works. They were just as shocked as I was with some of the things Jerry or whoever was saying."

Translation:

Other teams know our problem isn't the QB. Year after year we hear opposing players talk about how they knew what was coming from our offense and how vanilla it is. They only fear Romo's Jedi tricks
 
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joseephuss said:
You nailed it. Weeden is doing the same things now that he was doing in Dallas. He also has the benefit of throwing to the Texans #1 WR while he didn't have that luxury while in Dallas. It is just the case of the grass being greener. Do it for the Texans and he is perceived as all world. Do it for Dallas and you suck. Reality is stuck in the middle. His performance in both places has been solid and steady, but nothing special.
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Why did we dump a "solid and steady" guy for Matt friggin Cassel then?
 
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It's been pointed out, Texans D is playing insanely well. And they beat the Titans..

To be fair to Weeden, he did put a solid showing for a half vs. Atlanta only to get steam rolled by the Falcons in the second half.

He's the fall guy in an overall awful season.
 
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