All 11 of Dak's Fumbles Analyzed

Kevinicus

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Come on guys. Everything Dak does that isn't positive is someone else's fault.
Everything others do positive is because of Dak lifting them up.

Too bad all those failed QBs in Cleveland couldn't have had good coaching, great play-calling, an all-pro line, great receivers, and a great running back. They could have been good too. Or does this logic only apply to Dak and his far superior team?
 

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Whaaaaaa, nothing can be wrong with Dak!! Nothing, it's unbearable if true! Nothing must be wrong with him! If you say so you're a hater!!! He's 0% at fault for any shortcomings in this offense! How could I be a real fan if I believe something else. Dak is better than Brady, stats say so. Has more wins than anyone in this or that category. "Throws it to a spot" (it's always on the receivers if it's an incomplete!!!). Throws the prettiest spiral (ummm... ehhh.... ummmehhhh...... wait that was someone else, nvm!!). Dak is so guuuuuuud, y'all are trolls and E-girl fanbois and haters if you dare to critizice anything about him!! My fragile *true fan* ego can't handle it, whaaaaaa.
 

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Except the 4 that resulted in first downs or no loss of yards of course...
 

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1st vs Carolina: 3rd and 7 down 16-8 with 1:39 left: No one open, starts to run to the right at 2.72 seconds, is cut off by a defender and reverses field. Fumbles the ball while being tackled. 3rd and 7 would have been 4th and 16 from our own 16. Didn’t exactly cost us the game but it was a legitimate fumble. I argue the Coverage sack caused this more than anything else.


2nd- Week 4 against Detroit: 2nd and 3 at Dallas 32- Empty set, Dak stepping up into the pocket and while in the act of throwing, has the ball knocked out from a defender at 2.29 seconds. Has the presence of mind to pick it up and throw it away. None of this is his fault and he actually saved the game by making this play as it was just before the 2 minute warning and we were down 24-23.


3rd: week 6 vs. Jacksonville: 2nd and 9 at Jax 32: In shotgun, while performing an RPO with Zeke, the ball looks to be knocked out by Zeke as he was running past on the fake, ball bounces up to Dak and he actually gained a yard.

4th- week 6 vs Jacksonville: 2nd and 7 at Jax 25: haha, again, Dak takes off scrambling after 2.37 seconds…ball slips out of his hand while running and bounces back into his hands for a 7 yard gain and a first down.

5th- Week 7 vs Washington- 4th and 1- Fumbles on a sneak. Totally on Dak and this one pissed me off because I have been screaming for them to utilize the qb sneak because it should be unstoppable and he goes and fumbles it when they try it. Washington recovered.


6th Week 7 vs Washington- 3rd and 14- After 4 seconds trying to find someone open, he gets caught sacked and fumbles into the end zone. Bad fumble, Washington scored on this fumble. I know he was trying to make a play but he can’t take a sack let alone fumble in that situation. 2 bad fumbles this game.

7th- Week 9 vs Tennessee- 3rd and 13- After 3.4 seconds in the pocket, is tackled trying to run away and while trying to fight for yardage, is stripped by Woodyard. Should have done something else after there was no one open at 3 seconds…again…trying to make a play on 3rd and long. No one open…Tennessee recovered.

8th-Week 10 vs. Philly- 3rd and 8- After 3 seconds in the pocket, starts to scramble to the right evading a defender, then pats the ball out of his own hand. Picks it up and throws incomplete. Not the worst thing in the world at all…wish he didn’t do that but no harm, no foul.

9th- Week 12 vs Washington- 2nd and 4- Designed RPO run to right, Fumbles as he is going out of bounds after getting the first down. Watching this, his right foot was already out of bounds and then fumbles…should not have even been a fumble. 1st down…


10th- Week 13 vs N.O.- 3rd and 7 New Orleans 19- Ball is knocked out of his hand by defender while resetting to throw in 2.5 seconds. Recovers own fumble for no gain. Hardly his fault on this one.

11th Week 13 vs N.O.- 3rd and 5 on N.O. 6- Sacked in 2.4 seconds from his blind side. A little more time and no holding by Collins and it is likely a TD to Gallup over the middle. Not much he could do here…imo. Wish he hung onto it but Collins was the problem here…not Dak.


Out of the 11 Fumbles:
  • 5 were turnovers
  • 4 were for positive yards or no gain.
  • 4 were 2.5 seconds or less by a defender.
  • 4 were as a runner
  • 2 are hanging in the pocket too long, what he is bashed for...
  • 1 shouldn't have been a fumble.
Hope this helps clear up the latest fallacy about this qb.
Thanks Ken for sharing and taking the time to put that together. Go Cowboys
 

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Thanks for your work.

But seriously we all know what we got in Dak. He aint the answer even if he is a fighter and a nice guy.

We need an upgrade at the QB position. And we need it bad. Only position that is holding us back right now.
 

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He’ll learn and improve. Romo had fumbling issues early in his career too (32 in first 3 years as starter, 33 for the rest of his career).
 

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What is the average time to throw in the NFL? How many of those "no one was open" is just because he didn't throw the ball so you assume that? The fumble in the endzone in the Washington game is a prime example. "6th Week 7 vs Washington- 3rd and 14- After 4 seconds trying to find someone open, he gets caught sacked and fumbles into the end zone. " To your credit, you do call it a bad fumble (hint: all fumbles are bad) but Gallup was open, wide open for a possible TD, Dak just didn't throw the ball. That's not on the OL, the WR, the Coach, the mascot or the guy selling beer,, that is 100000000% on Dak and Dak alone.

I have never seen any average player get so many excuses to justify their average play. The facts are that Dak fumbles a lot.. more than anyone in the league to date. That is on Dak, 100%. It is his JOB to protect the ball at all times under any circumstances. To claim otherwise is just foolish. I remember back to 2014 and D. Murray having fumbling issues and it wasn't a problem because he led the league in rushing, until it cost us a chance to go the NFC Title game. Dak needs to get it cleaned up and fast.
 

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10th- Week 13 vs N.O.- 3rd and 7 New Orleans 19- Ball is knocked out of his hand by defender while resetting to throw in 2.5 seconds. Recovers own fumble for no gain. Hardly his fault on this one.
Actually, if you look at the film and slow it down, you will see his OWN player knocks the ball loose as he is pushed back into Dak in the pocket... pretty sure it wasn't the defender, but the guard or maybe the center got pushed into Dak...but again DAK is responsible for protecting the football...period.
 

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This guy is on a daily campaign about what a great quarterback Dak is, and how much better he is than Romo. Yes, it's that absurd.



Okay enough is enough.. Let's take a trip down memory lane and see how Romo performed against "playoff teams" aka "good teams"
I see your critisism of Dak for only generating 13 points against the best team currently in football... Here we go

2009
Week 10 @GB 7-17 loss / 1 int 1 fumble
Week 14 SD 17-20 loss /
Week 15 @ NO 24-17 win /
Week 17 Phi 34-14 win /
Week 19 @ Minn 3-34 loss 1 int 2 fumbles


2008
Week 2 Phi 41-37 win/ 1nt 1 fumble
Week 6 Ari 24-30 loss/ 0 Int 1 fumble
Week 14 Pits 13-20 loss/ 3 Ints 1 fumble
Week 15 NY 20-8 win/
Week 16 Balt 24-33 loss/ 2 Ints
Week 17 Phi 6-44 loss/ 1nt 2 fumbles

2007
Week 1 NY 45-35 win/ 1 Int
Week 6 NE 48-27 loss/ 1Int
Week 10 NY 31-20 win/ 1nt
Week 13 GB 37-27 win/ 1nt

2006
Week 7 NY 22-36 loss/ 3 int
Week 11 IND 27-10 win/ 1nt 1 fumble
Week 13 @NY 23-20 win/ 2 int
Week 14 NO 17-42 loss/2 int
Week 16 Phi 7-23 loss/ 2 int
Week 18 @Sea 20-21 loss


* now couple of notes

That is 32 turnovers in 21 games against playoff opponents. Hard to win like that. But of course lets blame the defense or someone else.

Which brings me to my next point. In 2007 Romo put up alot of points. Isn't that the same time period our defense was at the top of the league in generating turnovers? Amazing how that works right?

Sure dosen't appear to me Romo is some scoring machine in most of these games that you guys imply and most certainly did not protect the football.

Edit:

Defensive takeaways

2006 31
2007 29
2008 22
2009 21


2016 20
2017 21
2018 14
 

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Actually, if you look at the film and slow it down, you will see his OWN player knocks the ball loose as he is pushed back into Dak in the pocket... pretty sure it wasn't the defender, but the guard or maybe the center got pushed into Dak...but again DAK is responsible for protecting the football...period.
No, it was absolutely knocked out by the defender and I have posted pics of it on this site. I slowed it down and it is available for all to see during the broadcast during once of the replay angles they showed. They even credited the defender #93 with the FF.
 

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You know the best thing about this though, is that he can learn. Everyone knows that sometimes a QB gets a little happy and wants to do more than they should. And its not just qbs as just about any player does this. It doesnt excuse it but he can certainly learn to take care of the ball better. And its something to be learned which again is better than something that cant.
 

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Job, wife, family and probably a million other things I could think of doing then wasting my time on this, analysing Dak’s every fumble.

Bless you man and I wish you a life!
 

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Phillip Rivers was under siege all night last night, many times with no more than a couple of blinks to get rid of the ball. It was a clinic on what a QB should do under pressure.
Yup, very true. I will say that Prescott hasn't played 3 seasons yet, compared to 15 years.
 

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It's hard for me to blame a QB when he gets hit from his blind side and strip sacked unless he's just holding onto the ball for a good minute... sometimes I think people forget that this game is played against other teams filled with a roster of other NFL talented players. Sometimes those players just make great plays too. A few of those plays I'll put on Dak squarely, but it's not nearly as bad as it's been portrayed. IMHO.
Pocket and game situation awareness. That is all.
 

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Okay enough is enough.. Let's take a trip down memory lane and see how Romo performed against "playoff teams" aka "good teams"
I see your critisism of Dak for only generating 13 points against the best team currently in football... Here we go

2009
Week 10 @GB 7-17 loss / 1 int 1 fumble
Week 14 SD 17-20 loss /
Week 15 @ NO 24-17 win /
Week 17 Phi 34-14 win /
Week 19 @ Minn 3-34 loss 1 int 2 fumbles


2008
Week 2 Phi 41-37 win/ 1nt 1 fumble
Week 6 Ari 24-30 loss/ 0 Int 1 fumble
Week 14 Pits 13-20 loss/ 3 Ints 1 fumble
Week 15 NY 20-8 win/
Week 16 Balt 24-33 loss/ 2 Ints
Week 17 Phi 6-44 loss/ 1nt 2 fumbles

2007
Week 1 NY 45-35 win/ 1 Int
Week 6 NE 48-27 loss/ 1Int
Week 10 NY 31-20 win/ 1nt
Week 13 GB 37-27 win/ 1nt

2006
Week 7 NY 22-36 loss/ 3 int
Week 11 IND 27-10 win/ 1nt 1 fumble
Week 13 @NY 23-20 win/ 2 int
Week 14 NO 17-42 loss/2 int
Week 16 Phi 7-23 loss/ 2 int
Week 18 @Sea 20-21 loss


* now couple of notes

That is 32 turnovers in 21 games against playoff opponents. Hard to win like that. But of course lets blame the defense or someone else.

Which brings me to my next point. In 2007 Romo put up alot of points. Isn't that the same time period our defense was at the top of the league in generating turnovers? Amazing how that works right?

Sure dosen't appear to me Romo is some scoring machine in most of these games that you guys imply and most certainly did not protect the football.

Edit:

Defensive takeaways

2006 31
2007 29
2008 22
2009 21


2016 20
2017 21
2018 14

None of that addresses one simple item.

Dak Prescott can not throw a football like a real quarterback.

It's a problem.
 

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The difference is....he gets knocked for being a bad qb because he fumbles "holding onto the ball too long".

It just is a fallacy and I want to make sure that is clear.
Lol...Your OP is a fallacy.
 

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None of that addresses one simple item.

Dak Prescott can not throw a football like a real quarterback.

It's a problem.
Sure he can, I've seen him :laugh:
 
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