The commisioner can overturn the result of a game if there is an eggregious enough error

MarcusRock said:

No, actually they were right. Replay showed that the ball hit the ground which the on field official was shielded from. So if the wrong rule was applied on the field, replay was there to make sure the correct one was applied instead. Replay worked that time.

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Wrong again. It was the wrong call. DEZ catch was a catch. Stop thinking like a libtard.

BoysWin said:

Wrong again. It was the wrong call. DEZ catch was a catch. Stop thinking like a libtard.

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If you mean being able to accept reality instead of engaging in willful, foot stamping ignorance to avoid not getting one's way, guilty as charged.

Need to replay the Franco Harris noncatch game from the 70s too.
Wheel those guys back in...

as gross as the missed pass interference was and how it potentially changed the game...the saints got away with a face mask that would have negated their goal line stand that led to the rams settling for a 20-20 tie.

It likely would have been 1st and goal from the 1

madcow74 said:

as gross as the missed pass interference was and how it potentially changed the game...the saints got away with a face mask that would have negated their goal line stand that led to the rams settling for a 20-20 tie.

It likely would have been 1st and goal from the 1

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I think that goes to the heart of the argument against those claiming the game should be overturned. How can the league change a result based on only one officiating error and ignore all others? And where does it stop? How many D-linemen get held rushing the passer? How many missed face masks? How many helmet to helmet or any number of things?

No way this gets over turned. Pass interference isnt reviewable on instant replay. These idiot lawyers have nothing to stand on. The NFL has been cheating for years and nothing ever happens.

They lost because Brees threw a pick in overtime.

Daktozekecoop said:

They are waiting to give an official explanation for a reason. They want to avoid a s___ storm.

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Hell, they might as well go back to 1979 when Benny Barnes, who's back was trampled on by Lynn Swann on a 3rd and 17, somehow got a pass interference called on him which ultimately led to a TD and a 11 point lead. Subsequently, on that same drive, Franco Harris used the ref as a blocker for a big gain.

If this were to happen, I'm all in.

Hey, we can go back even further now that I think of it. That ball Unitas threw that they said was tipped by the Cowboys after being touched by a Colt before a Colt caught the pass which also led to a score. They should play that game over too because the defender never touched that ball.

I like where this is going.

OmerV said:

How do you know the other team could prevent a TD drive if they had to? If they couldn’t stop a TD drive either, that means the coin flip decided the victor.

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Then for me it sounds like TWO pretty lousy teams that can't prevent a TD when they have to.

Games shouldn't be replayed, nor will they, absent proof of corruption, as someone else mentioned. In fact, these distractions - chasing rabbits - draw attention from what could and should be done.

Officiating must improve, and that's not all on the on-field officials. Rules interpretation has become so complex. Everything can't be defined to the nth degree. Did his shoulder turn? Did his head turn? Did the ball move? Officials don't have microscopes.

That said, people keep referring to "a lot of other bad calls" in taking the position the Saints weren't screwed. But think about it - that's the defense? Well they were terrible the entire game. The Saints just happened to be the victims of the final botch.

Surely the NFL can and should do better than that. Whether in rules simplification, accountability, training, technology, etc., the league must demand improvement. Fans can help by demanding improvement.

The non-call of PI on the play was so absurd as to be unfathomable, except to conclude the officials simply didn't want to make that call at that time. Is that an individual making a decision, or does it result from guidance he's been given?

I generally like games in which the officials refrain from calling every ticky tack foul. But you can't have a circumstance where players can take advantage by committing egregious fouls because they understand the officials are inclined to swallow the whistle.

memories of the pine tar bay game

mmohican29 said:

Then for me it sounds like TWO pretty lousy teams that can't prevent a TD when they have to.

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You missed the point. In that case it comes down to the coin flip deciding who wins rather than play on the field.

OmerV said:

You missed the point. In that case it comes down to the coin flip deciding who wins rather than play on the field.

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No I get the point, I disagree with the "coin flip" determines the winner between two teams with **** defenses. Time for someone, anyone to make a play.

It wasn't egregious enough to me. I've seen worse. Quit yo' *****in', Saints. (damn, that sounds harsh)

mmohican29 said:

No I get the point, I disagree with the "coin flip" determines the winner between two teams with **** defenses. Time for someone, anyone to make a play.

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The difference is, if the offense fails to make a play on the first possession of overtime, they don't lose - they still have life and a second chance with their defense - but if the defense fails to make a play in the first possession of overtime, they do lose. That's a one sided deal. Both sides don't get the same latitude.

OmerV said:

The difference is, if the offense fails to make a play on the first possession of overtime, they don't lose - they still have life and a second chance with their defense - but if the defense fails to make a play in the first possession of overtime, they do lose. That's a one sided deal. Both sides don't get the same latitude.

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Better hold them to a FG then. If you can- you now have the advantage of 4 downs to use to full advantage as punting is no longer an option.

I like the rule as is.

mmohican29 said:

Better hold them to a FG then. If you can- you now have the advantage of 4 downs to use to full advantage as punting is no longer an option.

I like the rule as is.

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So, bottom line is you are okay with a system that randomly gives on team a huge advantage over the other. I don’t like random - I prefer each side go into OT on equal ground. So we will agree to disagree.

I will say, however, that of course punting is an option under the current system. If a team failed to get a 1st down on 4th down on their own 20 yard line they would almost guarantee they would lose. At least a punt would force the opponent to drive into FG range rather than just handing the ball over with the opponent already in FG range.

OmerV said:

So, bottom line is you are okay with a system that randomly gives on team a huge advantage over the other. I don’t like random - I prefer each side go into OT on equal ground. So we will agree to disagree.

I will say, however, that of course punting is an option under the current system. If a team failed to get a 1st down on 4th down on their own 20 yard line they would almost guarantee they would lose. At least a punt would force the opponent to drive into FG range rather than just handing the ball over with the opponent already in FG range.

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I've already said I like the current rule. I believe the games need a determined outcome W or L. Both sides of the ball are tested over 60 mins of action. If the team lucky to win the toss can score a TD, then bully for them. If they put forth an OT effort the New Orleans Saints did last Sunday, you will wear an L in all likelihood.

Stand tall, defend your turf, force a punt OR fg attempt. If a FG is produced, the team losing the coin toss now has an extra working down to execute a play increasing their odds of at least tying the contest.

Rewards Defense. If Philly tipped away the ball to Cooper they might be 2018 NFC East Champions. They did not. Opportunity was there, then waltzed into the endzone. Dallas clinches. Amen, good night.

mmohican29 said:

I've already said I like the current rule. I believe the games need a determined outcome W or L. Both sides of the ball are tested over 60 mins of action. If the team lucky to win the toss can score a TD, then bully for them. If they put forth an OT effort the New Orleans Saints did last Sunday, you will wear an L in all likelihood.

Stand tall, defend your turf, force a punt OR fg attempt. If a FG is produced, the team losing the coin toss now has an extra working down to execute a play increasing their odds of at least tying the contest.

Rewards Defense. If Philly tipped away the ball to Cooper they might be 2018 NFC East Champions. They did not. Opportunity was there, then waltzed into the endzone. Dallas clinches. Amen, good night.

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This doesn’t make sense becaipuse it is the college system that ensures a “determined outcome-W or L”. The NFL system allows for a tie.