News: NFL-NFLPA met to discuss negotiations on new CBA

CCBoy · Apr 9, 2019

NFL-NFLPA met to “discuss negotiations” on new CBA
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/09/nfl-nflpa-met-to-discuss-negotiations-on-new-cba/

“Today, the members of the NFL’s Management Council and the NFLPA’s Executive Committee met to discuss negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement,” the statement reads. “The League and the Union have committed to meet regularly in the coming months, which will involve staff, NFL leadership, members of the NFLPA Executive Committee and Player Representatives.”

The current CBA was executed in 2011 and expires after the 2020 season. The sides hope to avoid a work stoppage by getting a jump on negotiations.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was among those in Minneapolis to attend the meeting, missing the press conference for defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence.

Nightman · Apr 10, 2019

The NFLPA is bringing a knife to a gunfight again .... they re-hired D Smith to lead the negotiations

conner01 · Apr 10, 2019

This is gonna be a long, nasty fight

DHCBF66 · Apr 10, 2019

Take the power away from Goodell,

GenoT · Apr 10, 2019

DHCBF66 said:
Take the power away from Goodell,

I agree with the sentiment of getting rid of Goodell, but the NFLPA would have to give up a boatload of who-knows-what kinds of concessions for the owners to agree to quit on their pet-cat commissioner.

Not to mention Goodell has a guaranteed contract, paying him @$40mil per-year (providing all league-profit incentives are met), which runs through 2023.

Little Jr · Apr 10, 2019

Players will cave just like last time. At worst there will be 2 games missed and that's a doomsday worst.

AzorAhai · Apr 10, 2019

I’m wondering what the sticking points are going to be for the PA. Weed policy is an easy one and I expect it to be a major carrot. I don’t see the owners going for much less favorable revenue split or guaranteed contracts and most players don’t have the money to actually stick that fight out anyways. I also doubt Goodell is conceding any power in these negotiations either, though that should be a sticking point imo. Maybe we see them go after the franchise tag? Try to get it down to 1 year only or something. Overall we all know the owners have a bunch of the power here because players don’t save money like they should and need those game checks.

DHCBF66 · Apr 10, 2019

GenoT said:
I agree with the sentiment of getting rid of Goodell, but the NFLPA would have to give up a boatload of who-knows-what kinds of concessions for the owners to agree to quit on their pet-cat commissioner.

Not to mention Goodell has a guaranteed contract, paying him @$40mil per-year (providing all league-profit incentives are met), which runs through 2023.

I just want "sole power" taken away from him. I don't want him to be able to suspend a player because he believes they are guilty. I am still fumed over the Zeke suspension, Goodell set out to make sure Zeke was suspended but yet did not blink when the OBJ video popped up on the internet. I believe Goodell stated that a player only had to "appear" guilty and that was his reasoning for suspending Zeke. Micheal Bennett, caught on tape pushing a woman in a wheel chair over and no suspension. He play favorites and it needs to stop!

CouchCoach · Apr 10, 2019

Interesting, let's meet to discuss future meetings.

Each side is going to attempt to figure out the obstacles and gauge the possibility of no football and what they need to do to hunker down for the fight. I do not think the NFLPA is nearly as unified as the owners are or in agreement on the sticking points.

Some seem to feel pot and Goodell's power will be one of the sticking points but just what % of the gen pop of the NFL does that affect? Those do not directly relate to money. And that's what this is and will always be about.

The most interesting part of this for me will be the effort to take it to an 18 regular game season. And that will be all about the money.

cern · Apr 10, 2019

both sides have gained insights following the last agreement. both know what they liked about the agreement, and likewise what they didn't like about it. it will be the items both sides disliked as they pertain to their own particular interests that will be the sticking points for the future deals. I suspect these will be the most vitriolic negotiations ever.

pugilist · Apr 10, 2019

I'm not expecting any NFL football to be played in 2021

CouchCoach · Apr 10, 2019

cern said:
both sides have gained insights following the last agreement. both know what they liked about the agreement, and likewise what they didn't like about it. it will be the items both sides disliked as they pertain to their own particular interests that will be the sticking points for the future deals. I suspect these will be the most vitriolic negotiations ever.

Could go either way. Depends on how dug in the NFLPA thinks the owners are on their %.

My problem is that the owners will acquiesce to items that hurt the quality of the game like practice time instead of any points on the money. The NFLPA, including all of the agents and players, are babes in the woods when it comes to money compared to these guys. But my real problem is that I don't think either side cares as much about the game as the fans do. Means to an end to them and the fans are the means.

CouchCoach · Apr 10, 2019

pugilist said:
I'm not expecting any NFL football to be played in 2021

Don't think it will go that far, the players are not fat enough to go an entire season with those game checks. Besides that, congress will be pissed at missing their free tickets and perks and they will get involved. I do not think it would last over 1/4 of the season.

cern · Apr 10, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Could go either way. Depends on how dug in the NFLPA thinks the owners are on their %.

My problem is that the owners will acquiesce to items that hurt the quality of the game like practice time instead of any points on the money. The NFLPA, including all of the agents and players, are babes in the woods when it comes to money compared to these guys. But my real problem is that I don't think either side cares as much about the game as the fans do. Means to an end to them and the fans are the means.

good points. especially about practice time and what affect that might have on injuries. no one can argue that the money is increasing for the best players, but not so much for the just good players.

John813 · Apr 10, 2019

DHCBF66 said:
I just want "sole power" taken away from him. I don't want him to be able to suspend a player because he believes they are guilty. I am still fumed over the Zeke suspension, Goodell set out to make sure Zeke was suspended but yet did not blink when the OBJ video popped up on the internet. I believe Goodell stated that a player only had to "appear" guilty and that was his reasoning for suspending Zeke. Micheal Bennett, caught on tape pushing a woman in a wheel chair over and no suspension. He play favorites and it needs to stop!

IIRC he got pressured by two big owners in Kraft and Blank to suspend Zeke.
Blank of course was the chairman of the compensation committee.
The guy later leading the charge to re-sign Goodell.

RustyBourneHorse · Apr 10, 2019

DHCBF66 said:
Take the power away from Goodell,

I agree, but that might be easier said than done. Once you concede power to someone, it is difficult to get it back. On a different note, I think that Randy Gregory is probably on the edge of his seat about the new CBA coming up.

CouchCoach · Apr 10, 2019

Furboy said:
I agree, but that might be easier said than done. Once you concede power to someone, it is difficult to get it back. On a different note, I think that Randy Gregory is probably on the edge of his seat about the new CBA coming up.

The owners just gave him a long term deal and they're not about to not have him play the heavy as that's his job.

On what grounds would the league take Goodell out of it? He deals with players that break the rules and the case that pisses most Cowboys fans off was one where the panel that was set up for it recommended 4-0 that he be disciplined. It is laughable that any of us could express innocence or guilt since there was no evidence except their word. And one of them was stupid enough to do something stupid while under investigation.

I do not get the vitriol at Goodell anymore than some judge that has to deal with people that break the rules. If the perception is that he's got it in for Booger or the Cowboys, that's because the Cowboys are willing to take the risk on high risk players like Hardy and Gregory. Hell, Gregory breaks the rules again and Goodell is the bad guy? For all we know, Goodell might like for pot to get exempted but as long as it is federally illegal, that will not happen.

Goodell is the head henchman and if it he weren't, there would be somebody else doing the same thing. There is going to be a judge whether we or the players like it or not.

RustyBourneHorse · Apr 10, 2019

CouchCoach said:
The owners just gave him a long term deal and they're not about to not have him play the heavy as that's his job.

On what grounds would the league take Goodell out of it? He deals with players that break the rules and the case that pisses most Cowboys fans off was one where the panel that was set up for it recommended 4-0 that he be disciplined. It is laughable that any of us could express innocence or guilt since there was no evidence except their word. And one of them was stupid enough to do something stupid while under investigation.

I do not get the vitriol at Goodell anymore than some judge that has to deal with people that break the rules. If the perception is that he's got it in for Booger or the Cowboys, that's because the Cowboys are willing to take the risk on high risk players like Hardy and Gregory. Hell, Gregory breaks the rules again and Goodell is the bad guy? For all we know, Goodell might like for pot to get exempted but as long as it is federally illegal, that will not happen.

Goodell is the head henchman and if it he weren't, there would be somebody else doing the same thing. There is going to be a judge whether we or the players like it or not.

I'm not saying take him completely out of power. I'm just saying try and shift a bit of power away from him.

CouchCoach · Apr 10, 2019

Furboy said:
I'm not saying take him completely out of power. I'm just saying try and shift a bit of power away from him.

He is the final power, they have others within the league office that deal with the day to day. Someone has to be in charge and have the ultimate power regarding disciplinary issues.

And here again, what % of the gen pop are disciplinary problems? They will pick their battles but that one will be a waste of time and not worth fighting over.

jazzcat22 · Apr 10, 2019

Who cares at this point. :laugh:

When it comes down to it, the fans will lose out no matter what.

Everyone will get more money somehow, and the fans will be the ones paying for it.
Players get more money, owners will raise the prices, the NFL will increase price for TV ads. Then the merchandise will go up because they need to pay for the commercials.

Food and parking will go up too.

Fans will pay, inflation continues, fans pay more.

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