Salary cap if there's a new CBA

Bizwah said:

I think it's a given that there will be a lock out when the CBA contract ends (2021??? not sure when). I know the cap will remain in place. The owners love how it's kept a competitive league.

The real question will be, "how much more of the total revenues will go to the players?" If it's a significant amount, and the cap goes up significantly, then any deal signed by Dak and Zeke may actually be ok.

I'm not well-learned on the cap and how the CBA works. I just wonder if Jerry is keeping any possible rise in the cap in mind when negotiating with the players.

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Not sure about a lockout as it seems that both parties are meeting early and often to avoid that.

And Jerry Jones is reportedly front and center in those negotiations, so I have to think he knows what the next deal should look like.

And from the outside, that new deal should include portions of one or two sources of new revenue. The NFL is reported to make an additional $2 billion from gambling revenue. Split in half, that $1 billion for the salary cap split among 32 teams, that should be roughly $30 million per team which should cover the lion's share of yiur quarterback contracts.

Then, if the players agree to the two additional games, you're looking at another potential $2 billion or another $30 million per team after the split.

If that's the case, that's $60 million per team per year in cap raise, which should help a lot in covering these big deals.

What I’d love to see from a new CBA:
Cap on single player contracts, namely QBs
Roger Goodell fired and homeless

Some of the whispers I've heard is that there will be a constriction on contracts that will prevent more than a 30% rise in base salary from one year to the next in contracts. Which wouldneffectivl

stasheroo said:

Not sure about a lockout as it seems that both parties are meeting early and often to avoid that.

And Jerry Jones is reportedly front and center in those negotiations, so I have to think he knows what the next deal should look like.

And from the outside, that new deal should include portions of one or two sources of new revenue. The NFL is reported to make an additional $2 billion from gambling revenue. Split in half, that $1 billion for the salary cap split among 32 teams, that should be roughly $30 million per team which should cover the lion's share of yiur quarterback contracts.

Then, if the players agree to the two additional games, you're looking at another potential $2 billion or another $30 million per team after the split.

If that's the case, that's $60 million per team per year in cap raise, which should help a lot in covering these big deals.

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What I've heard is that there is a push to limit the growth between years in a contract. A cap that prevents contracts from going from 3.mil base salary to 15 mil base salary from one year to the next. I don't know if it's the owners or players, but there appears to be a push to basically remove backloading contracts.

dargonking999 said:

Some of the whispers I've heard is that there will be a constriction on contracts that will prevent more than a 30% rise in base salary from one year to the next in contracts. Which wouldneffectivl


What I've heard is that there is a push to limit the growth between years in a contract. A cap that prevents contracts from going from 3.mil base salary to 15 mil base salary from one year to the next. I don't know if it's the owners or players, but there appears to be a push to basically remove backloading contracts.

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That is a benefit to the players. As contracts are written and signed now, both parties know that the backloaded numbers are just BS. The team will usually cut the player before actually paying out that contract.

Which leads to another thought: In my opinion, these numbers in these massive contracts that select players demand and teams agree to, are not really about the money, they are about recognition and respect. Players want to be known as the highest paid, or one of the highest paid, players at their position. It is their measuring stick against their peers. So, they sign a 100 million dollar contract knowing full well that it is just numbers they will never see. And that creates an interesting dynamic between players and agents because they have different bottom lines.
Agents don't get paid on contractual amounts, they get paid a percentage of actual income. The real deal on these contracts is the guaranteed portion, that is all about the money, and usually the sticking point.

I can't wait to see these players sweat while on strike. With gambling revenue on the horizon this CBA negotiation will take several months.

Players are going to want full guaranteed contracts, smoke bud, and have a real disciplinary board not roger goodell. Then gotta massage the $$. Owners are gonna not want to pay players more even though they will be making more. Going to want to expand the game to 18 games. And if I were the owners I would go with the NFL having more practices like the old days so we don't have to watch this week 1-4 garbage that we get every year now.

Jake said:

The NFL's multi-billion dollar national TV contracts are shared equally, unlike baseball where one team can make 10 times as much (or more) than a smaller team.

That's what keeps the NFL competitive. The salary cap keeps owners incredibly rich.

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Nah, for most owners, spending all the way to the cap means very little for the bottom line. The salary cap exists, exclusively, for parody. There's no difference to the Jerry's, Krafts, Blanks, etc. between spending $50 million and $100 million.

People forget that the actual money paid out in salaries doesn't matter. Every team received like $250m last year from league revenue - TV deals, mostly. That more than doubles the salary cap.

AbeBeta said:

Very few employees make teams the sort of money that athletes do. Yet they rarely make enough to own a team.

This isn't a job pushing paper. It's your work making millions for the owners.

Please don't compare that to other jobs. It is just a meaninglessness comparison

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If all 53 players on 2018 NFL rosters had attended a players retreat in New Zealand and were hit by a Tsunami killing ALL of them, the owners would continue making the same profits.
There might a revenue dip for a year or two but expenses would be much lower with all new players on lower cost contracts; therefore, owner's profits would continue.

In fact, the owners would likely make more in that scenario.

As a group, the employees of a company like Apple do in fact make the sort of money for the company that athletes make for team owners.
- The difference is that there are 132,000 Apple employees vs 53 players on an NFL team.

If Apple starts using Robots to replace half of their employees, the remaining employees don't get a 2x pay raise.