When was the last time Zeke made a defender miss?

He’s declined gradually each year. It’s noticeable when you compare his rookie season to now....not even close to the same player now

I have said it a million times, but the rate of his decline is 100% related to his personal life choices off the field. You cannot be a world class athlete forever and party like he does.

It speeds up the inevitable, which is what? 7-8 seasons of prime production for HOF caliber RBs...that actually take care of their bodies. He’s in his 4th, and parties like he has substance abuse issues.

The decline is real, and it’s happening right now.

Streetwise said:

If you've read my past posts on the subject you would understand that I include the RB's in blame, but I can't see JUST blaming the RBs because, as we've discussed the O line isn't playing very well either.
If we're going to point the finger at Elliott and his contract, we should do the same with the O line, they're making a load.

Click to expand...

Are the getting the paid the most for their position. I love how all the excuses come out for Zeke, it was the same for Dez don't feel bad.

August 4th 1947

Beaker42 said:

Jerry bought a lemon.

Click to expand...

I'll take this "Lemon" any day of the week!!!!

stasheroo said:

I'll say this, Zeke doesn't look explosive.

Powerful? Oh yeah, he's certainly strong, and he continues to move the pile forward upon contact.

But explosive? Shifty? Capable of making the big play?

I'm not seeing that.

Click to expand...

On every run looked like he shook his head before he came back to the huddle.

Most overrated player in the league.

aria said:

Never was a good enough excuse for Barkley last year, he had a terrible O line and it’s never mentioned. The O line was never an issue until Zeke wasn’t as effective, then it’s all on the O line. Is Zeke ever held accountable? For the price tag these idiots gave him, and he demanded, he shouldn’t have to have a top 5 O line to produce the results that is expected of a one of the highest paid RB’s in the league.

Click to expand...

…..so the problem is Zeke's pockets. Emmitt did the same thing (with an All-Pro OL) and proved naysayers wrong. I don't understand why you don't want him paid like you would yourself on a job. Take Zeke out and watch Dak fail (or watch the excuses come pouring down). Zeke has seen scheme fail him just like Dak has endured at times, but stay out the man's pockets. Dak is about to be paid....not let's see if he lives up to expectations (and the unfair ones).

jay94 said:

Are the getting the paid the most for their position. I love how all the excuses come out for Zeke, it was the same for Dez don't feel bad.

Click to expand...

What?

stasheroo said:

I'll say this, Zeke doesn't look explosive.

Powerful? Oh yeah, he's certainly strong, and he continues to move the pile forward upon contact.

But explosive? Shifty? Capable of making the big play?

I'm not seeing that.

Click to expand...

He hasn't looked all that explosive since his rookie year.

NextGenBoys said:

Just curious when the last time anyone saw Zeke make a defender miss. All he ever does is put his head down, run into them, and fall forward for 3 yards. Don't get me wrong, the tough and hidden yardage is important, but in games like last night, we need a RB who can make something happen 1v1.

Zeke is not worth the money he is making, and in certain situations Tony Pollard should be on the field over him due to his more dynamic nature and ability to make guys miss in space.

Click to expand...

Several times during the NO game which you obviously didn’t watch.

Cmac said:

…..so the problem is Zeke's pockets. Emmitt did the same thing (with an All-Pro OL) and proved naysayers wrong. I don't understand why you don't want him paid like you would yourself on a job. Take Zeke out and watch Dak fail (or watch the excuses come pouring down). Zeke has seen scheme fail him just like Dak has endured at times, but stay out the man's pockets. Dak is about to be paid....not let's see if he lives up to expectations (and the unfair ones).

Click to expand...

I don’t think any RB is worth what he got and eventually other players, possibly other more important players, that are necessary to build a team won’t be able to get paid because we have it all tied up with a few players, one of who is much more easily replaceable than the other. Some of you think the salary cap is just a myth and it can always be tweaked to sign anyone they want for whatever they want. How quickly your forget the salary cap hell were just recently got out of.

We saw Zeke out and the end of last year and it was one of the Cowboys best offensive performances and Dak did great.

dallasfan4lizife said:

He’s declined gradually each year. It’s noticeable when you compare his rookie season to now....not even close to the same player now

I have said it a million times, but the rate of his decline is 100% related to his personal life choices off the field. You cannot be a world class athlete forever and party like he does.

It speeds up the inevitable, which is what? 7-8 seasons of prime production for HOF caliber RBs...that actually take care of their bodies. He’s in his 4th, and parties like he has substance abuse issues.

The decline is real, and it’s happening right now.

Click to expand...

really come on get out of here with that...remember North Dallas 40? ever see college campus partys?, how about the White House and all the issues of the 90s players? Brett Farve played on pain killers and tons of them every game to make it through it(he played 19yers at pretty high level, pun intended), i heard stories of Lawrence Taylors coke issues, storys coming out daily like Megatron and Percy Harvin played HIGH every game...NBA 50% of the dudes smoke before game..theres way too many examples to list..

Point being is it depends on the individual but Zekes been world class since HS and he may not be 2016 Zeke but he hasn't fallen off as much as fans want to say he has..its overblown as he got paid and now hes under a microscope....I know zeke is not partying every night in season or even a ton during the season or we would have heard about this(TMZ is parked outside this dudes house for sure), guy went to some events and had too much fun in the offseason..


Lets get this straight the Oline has had issues run blocking and coaches scheming better run blocking and calling too many 1st down runs.. it doesnt help a RB when this happens.. sure he had poor showing but it has ZERO to do with his life style..get over yourself..substance abuse or hes young, rich and singe and has gone out and had some fun while media follows him around?

STOP THE BS people.. decline maybe from his rookie year but that happens you dont get younger , you get older but hes not in that kind of rapid decline..move on..there are many player on this team and others who are declining and they dont have reputations for being partiers.. lmao..***e

None played well last game maybe they all went out 3 months in row in NOLA and thats what happened..SMH..

aria said:

I don’t think any RB is worth what he got and eventually other players, possibly other more important players, that are necessary to build a team won’t be able to get paid because we have it all tied up with a few players, one of who is much more easily replaceable than the other. Some of you think the salary cap is just a myth and it can always be tweaked to sign anyone they want for whatever they want. How quickly your forget the salary cap hell were just recently got out of.

We saw Zeke out and the end of last year and it was one of the Cowboys best offensive performances and Dak did great.

Click to expand...

Agree.

If the Salary cap is a myth then wth don't we just sign Ramsey? We could have signed Suh when he was available? and other blue chippers? True teams can skirt around the edges and restructure contracts etc,.....as for Zeke I dont like the money but his numbers are just to dominant to let go. Demarco was one thing but Zekes case was almost unavoidable

aria said:

I don’t think any RB is worth what he got and eventually other players, possibly other more important players, that are necessary to build a team won’t be able to get paid because we have it all tied up with a few players, one of who is much more easily replaceable than the other. Some of you think the salary cap is just a myth and it can always be tweaked to sign anyone they want for whatever they want. How quickly your forget the salary cap hell were just recently got out of.

We saw Zeke out and the end of last year and it was one of the Cowboys best offensive performances and Dak did great.

Click to expand...

….I got it…..Dak is irreplaceable...….and Zeke is overpaid. Wow!

fifaguy said:

Makes you wonder why they have have lined up 10 yards behind Prescott haha. He has to run 10+ yards to get to the los..

Click to expand...

So much this. Ive been saying this for weeks. Unless he's in Pistol, he's so far from the line he's regularly beat to the hole by slower defenders. The only reason that should be happening and would be successful is if they're hitting the team with draws.

Also, run the damn RPO!

texbumthelife said:

So much this. Ive been saying this for weeks. Unless he's in Pistol, he's so far from the line he's regularly beat to the hole by slower defenders. The only reason that should be happening and would be successful is if they're hitting the team with draws.

Also, run the damn RPO!

Click to expand...

Haha right on brother. It's just way to far a ground to cover. The slower dline guys have enough time to adjust to this and close the gaps.

I think they forgot about the rpo and play action already haha.

fifaguy said:

Haha right on brother. It's just way to far a ground to cover. The slower dline guys have enough time to adjust to this and close the gaps.

I think they forgot about the rpo and play action already haha.

Click to expand...

I think they like Zeke set up deeper to give him time to read the blocks in zone blocking. Because of that, they have to line him up that deep otherwise so as not to give away the play. It's just crazy to me how difficult it is for this team to get to the edge versus other teams with not nearly the horses up front. And no, it's not Zekes speed. Bigger slower backs are getting to the edge. I think it's schematic.

NextGenBoys said:

Just curious when the last time anyone saw Zeke make a defender miss. All he ever does is put his head down, run into them, and fall forward for 3 yards. Don't get me wrong, the tough and hidden yardage is important, but in games like last night, we need a RB who can make something happen 1v1.

Zeke is not worth the money he is making, and in certain situations Tony Pollard should be on the field over him due to his more dynamic nature and ability to make guys miss in space.

Click to expand...

Maybe Cabo training is not as good as Oxnard.

Cmac said:

….I got it…..Dak is irreplaceable...….and Zeke is overpaid. Wow!

Click to expand...

Lol, if that’s what you got from that post than condolences. Go back to 5th grade reading comprehension.

He's not the impact player he was just 3 years ago. jmo,