A.Cooper Catch - Jason Garrett Flag Throw

atlantacowboy · Oct 7, 2019

If Garret would direct some of that fire toward players, he might have a more motivated team.

atlantacowboy · Oct 7, 2019

The NFL needs to stop limiting successful challenges. A successful challenge should not result in a loss of challenges. The rule right now is stupid. Garret was pissed b/c he had to use his final challenge flag on an obvious catch.

BatteryPowered · Oct 7, 2019

From what I have heard reported, the flag sounds like an ABS Unsportsmanlike. I gave a few ABS technical fouls to coaches while officiating basketball.

FYI...ABS = Accumulated Bull****. Sometimes, it's just easier to whack/flag the coach to shut them up than to keep trying to talk them down. They usually happen when a coach gets frustrated...team isn't executing, they are making stupid mistakes, they are not into the game, etc. Lighting up the players on the sideline looks bad so they start in on the officials (officials understand it's an easy out...most fans dislike them anyway). You try to work with a coach in that situation, but if they start distracting you...even a little...you have to put a stop to it one way or another.

Ky31 · Oct 7, 2019

JMPearson said:
He was not out of challenges , he won that challenge they over turned the play

He was out of challenges...he lost the challenge on the Anthony Brown PI...you only get two challenges once you lose one...it’s an easy rule to understand!!

BatteryPowered · Oct 7, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
The NFL needs to stop limiting successful challenges. A successful challenge should not result in a loss of challenges. The rule right now is stupid. Garret was pissed b/c he had to use his final challenge flag on an obvious catch.

While I agree with this sentiment...a professional HC simply cannot lose his cool to the point of hurting his team. That is what Garret did...he just got lucky the players bailed him out.

atlantacowboy · Oct 7, 2019

BatteryPowered said:
While I agree with this sentiment...a professional HC simply cannot lose his cool to the point of hurting his team. That is what Garret did...he just got lucky the players bailed him out.

I actually agree with the sentiment that Garret losing his cool had something to do with the teams much improved play afterward. It had the effect of inspiring the troops. Its not like it was a close game when it occurred.

Hoofbite · Oct 7, 2019

The ref should be reprimanded. Not necessarily because of the flag, but because of the way he handled himself prior to, and after, throwing the flag. He made it clear that the flag was more-or-less a continuation of the PI review where he can be seen to say, "then throw your flag". He flagged Garrett in this instance purely out of emotion, and then puffed his chest out and basically Vince McMahon strutted away while shooting a stare at Garrett.

There's no room for that in officiating in any sport. I have long been a skeptic of the officiating bias, and I have stated that I think they just suck in general. When an official power trips and throw a grudge flag like this, it's time to start talking about bias. Maybe not a general team bias, but damn sure a "you're vindictive ***" bias and you're making our league look bad. Bad calls happen, but grudge calls should never happen. This was a grudge call. Throw the flag, casually walk away, and maintain composure and I can accept it as a bad call. Throw the flag and carry an "eat ****" attitude with a stare, and I think it's entirely unacceptable.

gimmesix · Oct 7, 2019

brooksey1 said:

I like how the official tried to throw his flag up as hard as Jason threw his down.

BatteryPowered · Oct 7, 2019

Hoofbite said:
PI review where he can be seen to say, "then throw your flag".

See...I don't have a problem with the official saying that. I feel confident in saying the official explained what he saw on the play. In every sport, coaches and officials don't see things the same way, primarily because they don't have the same angles. In the NFL, if the coach cannot be convinced the challenge is available; "Coach, if you feel you are right and I am wrong then throw your flag." The part that the official probably added mentally was "or shut the BLEEP up."

HungryLion · Oct 7, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
The NFL needs to stop limiting successful challenges. A successful challenge should not result in a loss of challenges. The rule right now is stupid. Garret was pissed b/c he had to use his final challenge flag on an obvious catch.

Agreed.

Then sure enough the blind zebras missed an obvious and blatant PI on an interception. And Garret couldn’t challenge, because previously the ref didn’t do their job and missed a call.

So coaches get penalized for the REFS sucking at their jobs.

It’s bullcrap.

Brax · Oct 7, 2019

Ky31 said:
He was out of challenges...he lost the challenge on the Anthony Brown PI...you only get two challenges once you lose one...it’s an easy rule to understand!!

the rule is simple you get 2 if you are correct on first one you keep it ,he challenged the PI and lost so he still had 1 challenge left used it on catch, call was overturned, he then had none left, you seem to not understand this he did have 1 challenge left and used it on the not catch call.

Brax · Oct 7, 2019

Hoofbite said:
The ref should be reprimanded. Not necessarily because of the flag, but because of the way he handled himself prior to, and after, throwing the flag. He made it clear that the flag was more-or-less a continuation of the PI review where he can be seen to say, "then throw your flag". He flagged Garrett in this instance purely out of emotion, and then puffed his chest out and basically Vince McMahon strutted away while shooting a stare at Garrett.

There's no room for that in officiating in any sport. I have long been a skeptic of the officiating bias, and I have stated that I think they just suck in general. When an official power trips and throw a grudge flag like this, it's time to start talking about bias. Maybe not a general team bias, but damn sure a "you're vindictive ***" bias and you're making our league look bad. Bad calls happen, but grudge calls should never happen. This was a grudge call. Throw the flag, casually walk away, and maintain composure and I can accept it as a bad call. Throw the flag and carry an "eat ****" attitude with a stare, and I think it's entirely unacceptable.

Ref's are the on field judges you have to be really stupid to call them obscene names at any point. stop with the ref is somehow to blame for this loss or JG ineptitude.

Longboysfan · Oct 7, 2019

cej757 said:
Forced Garrett to use his last challenge after he lost the Anthony Brown pi. We really could've used that challenge on the shouldve been Michael Gallup pi that turned into a interception.

Gallup was not around. He was in tent getting checked out after all the head slaps from the Packers player.

BigD_95 · Oct 7, 2019

First time I liked Garret in awhile! Good for him

ConstantReboot · Oct 7, 2019

What pissed me off about this game was that Green Bay was mugging our receivers down the field and there was no calls being made. Yet when it comes to these questionable calls the refs would just called them against Dallas. I think its because other teams complain too much to the refs and the refs are influenced by them.

Secondly, I am left to question why ever time there is a big play by Dallas the refs just calls some kind of odd and questionable call on Dallas? I rewatched those plays without any of the commentary and it sure doesn't look like any type of foul at all.

Lastly, Green Bay was holding our pass rusher and receivers all game long. Yet there was no call. However, the Green Bays defense consistently complained to the refs that there was lots of pass interference being done by the Cowboys and it was influencing the refs.

I'm not saying there is some kind of conspiracy here. But when these refs don't call it equally, where they don't call holding calls on Dallas, yet make questionable calls when Dallas has a big play, it has me wondering.

America's Cowboy · Oct 7, 2019

Brax said:
leader of the tin foil hat crowd, come on surely you jest about this right.

Look, everybody, it's the daily Troll who pretends to be a Cowboys fan but in reality hates and daily berates them.

xwalker · Oct 7, 2019

brooksey1 said:

I thought the team actually responded after the Head Coach finally showed some emotion.

They got a 1st on the play after the flag; therefore the penalty itself didn't hurt the team.

ConstantReboot · Oct 7, 2019

glimmerman said:
Lmao. True. Was a few bad calls. But it didn’t cost us the game.

No it didn't. But it affected the game. If they call penalties on us, they should call penalties on them too. The refs were very one-sided with their calls.

tcc0808 · Oct 7, 2019

cej757 said:
Forced Garrett to use his last challenge after he lost the Anthony Brown pi. We really could've used that challenge on the shouldve been Michael Gallup pi that turned into a interception.

so all turnovers are automatically reviewed, and PI is now a reviewable play - why would the competition committee not include that scenario.... idiotic that’s why

OmerV · Oct 7, 2019

visionary said:
Garrett is incompetent garbage
You think the refs do t know that

So, you think the refs made the call because they don't think he's a good coach? Really? lol

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