Zeke was terrible tonight **merged**

Bullflop

Bullflop

Cowboys Diehard
Messages
24,712
Reaction score
30,037
The Cowboys OL gets more than it's fair share of hype. The truth is that they're just not what they were in the past vs. the best DLs in the NFL.

Unfortunately, the Vikings is one of the teams that qualify in that respect. The trouble that Dallas had run blocking Sun. night proved as much.
 
jay94

jay94

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,145
Reaction score
1,347
Bullflop said:
The Cowboys OL gets more than it's fair share of hype. The truth is that they're just not what they were in the past vs. the best DLs in the NFL.

Unfortunately, the Vikings is one of the teams that qualify in that respect. The trouble that Dallas had run blocking Sun. night proved as much.
Click to expand...


And Zeke's hype is this ten fold, yet I don't believe he had one single evasion of a tackle the whole game. Dak had time to throw, were things perfect for Zeke, no they weren't, but did he do ONE thing above and beyond any other back in the league in his position to make him stand out from anybody else, plain and simple NO. Cook broke tackle after tackle and Zeke's fanbase, just created excuse after excuse.
 
noshame

noshame

I'm not dead yet......
Messages
13,824
Reaction score
12,039
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Look at his rookie season and compare to the guy on the field last night.

Nothing else needs to be said.
Except, well done Jerry.
 
Aviano90

Aviano90

Go Seahawks!!!
Messages
16,758
Reaction score
24,485
uvaballa said:
Yeah what happened to all that talk. If there aren’t huge holes he’s not effective and not great in the open field.
Click to expand...
Zeke could be worse than Murray was in the open field, even with Murray constantly plowing into the backs of his blockers.
 
John813

John813

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,307
Reaction score
34,175
What struck me as odd was that after 4 years, with only the 4th year Murray being run hard, the Cowboys offered him a "honest" offer. Afraid of him being worn out or beat up. I can get that.

Zeke's first 3 years they probably gave him the most amount of carries over the 3 years for any RB in that timeframe(2016-2018) for games played. He holds out and they reward him with the #1 pay in the league.

When his offensive line doesn't open up holes he looks like a dime a dozen RB. Which is not to bash only him, but that just seems to be the way it is in 21st century football. Not too many backs can have elite games when the blocking isn't great. Sure Saquon can find a crease and go 60 yards but the rest of the yardage is 1,2, -2 yards etc...

To me, it's a position that has lost value over the years. You still need an efficient run game, but I'm not so sure you need a stud RB for an efficient run game.

When his success depends on an offensive line that takes up 31% of the cap, maybe you see why teams didn't go crazy to sign Bell.
 
vlad

vlad

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,321
Reaction score
2,243
NumOneQB said:
That last play was Connor Williams’ fault. Basic blocking 101. On a combo block you don’t release until your inside blocker gets to your hip. Once he’s there, then you release to the LBer. Williams whiffed like the scrub he is and didn’t even get a punch on his guy to give Frederick time to get there. Zeke had no where to go. You can’t make that mistake in crunch time against a playoff caliber team.
Click to expand...

So brutal, when they showed the replay.
 
atlantacowboy

atlantacowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
24,870
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Bullflop said:
The Cowboys OL gets more than it's fair share of hype. The truth is that they're just not what they were in the past vs. the best DLs in the NFL.

Unfortunately, the Vikings is one of the teams that qualify in that respect. The trouble that Dallas had run blocking Sun. night proved as much.
Click to expand...

Dak had a clean pocket all night. The problem is Zeke. Even Collingsworth was remarking how he was hesitating to hit the holes as if he didn't trust they would still be there by the time he got there.
 
boysfanperiod

boysfanperiod

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,122
Reaction score
4,590
atlantacowboy said:
Dak had a clean pocket all night. The problem is Zeke. Even Collingsworth was remarking how he was hesitating to hit the holes as if he didn't trust they would still be there by the time he got there.
Click to expand...

He just plain gave up. Should have put Pollard in and see what he could do.

Anyone else notice that Zeke didn't pull himself out like he usually does?
 
Last edited:

cowboyz

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,993
Reaction score
326


That 2nd down run looks like Zeke broke it back, but Kendrick came back too. Maybe thinking because it was short he could just plow through.

3rd down, is all on Williams.

But still if Zeke is paid so we'll, hes got to get more.

Also based on those looks, you can see why it's easy to fall for the Garrett trap, blaming the players for not executing. They were executing in the pass. Dumb to go away.
 
Bullflop

Bullflop

Cowboys Diehard
Messages
24,712
Reaction score
30,037
atlantacowboy said:
Dak had a clean pocket all night. The problem is Zeke. Even Collingsworth was remarking how he was hesitating to hit the holes as if he didn't trust they would still be there by the time he got there.
Click to expand...

My reference was to the fact that our OL was being owned by the Vikings d-line. That much is undeniable. The running lanes were non-existent. There were simply no holes to hit. Evidently, you didn't notice that. Did Zeke enjoy one of his better days? Certainly not. He definitely had no shortage of company, however. The OL has more than it's share of hype that fails to mention their physical limitations of bad backs arms, ankles and shoulders.
 
Last edited:
blueblood70

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
38,750
Reaction score
27,019
IM sorry but all this dripping for Cook and really 3.8 YPC wasn't great at all.. what was great his backup kille dour defense and cook was steady but the Screen and pass game by the RBs of the Vikings..

where were all our Screen and passing game for Zeke and Pollard.. we are very similar teams and the sgreesive nature of them overpaying the rush and the run game, you hit them with edge plays and screens.. we lost because of coaching and poor defense .. this wasn't on Zeke

Sorry..it was not.. they lived in our backfield and we never backed them off like they did us..but the Oline was not good in the run game and zeke was hit more time behind or at the line and we did nothing to fix it..
 
John813

John813

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,307
Reaction score
34,175
cowboyz said:


That 2nd down run looks like Zeke broke it back, but Kendrick came back too. Maybe thinking because it was short he could just plow through.

3rd down, is all on Williams.

But still if Zeke is paid so we'll, hes got to get more.

Also based on those looks, you can see why it's easy to fall for the Garrett trap, blaming the players for not executing. They were executing in the pass. Dumb to go away.
Click to expand...


baldy made it sound like they were in nickel most of the night.
That's sad if true.
 
atlantacowboy

atlantacowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
24,870
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Bullflop said:
My reference was to the fact that our OL was being owned by the Vikings d-line. That much is undeniable. The running lanes were non-existent. There were simply no holes to hit. Evidently, you didn't notice that. Did Zeke enjoy one of his better days? Certainly not. He definitely had no shortage of company, however.
Click to expand...

There were holes to hit. 20 carries for an elite rb is plenty of opportunity to make something happen. Your contention that there wasn't a hole to be found on all 20 carries isn't true.
 
Bullflop

Bullflop

Cowboys Diehard
Messages
24,712
Reaction score
30,037
atlantacowboy said:
There were holes to hit. 20 carries for an elite rb is plenty of opportunity to make something happen. Your contention that there wasn't a hole to be found on all 20 carries isn't true.
Click to expand...

It's more than true for anyone taking notice of the OL's domination by the Viking d-line. Running lanes were a rare incident, indeed, although an occasional lane occurred. Zeke isn't the type to be intimidated for no good reason -- that much should be very apparent by now. Yes, he had a poor outing, though.
 
Aviano90

Aviano90

Go Seahawks!!!
Messages
16,758
Reaction score
24,485
He was a deer in headlights last night. Collinsworth even mentioned he hesitated to hit the hole and as a result could only gain 5 yards on a play that should have yielded a bigger gain.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top