Dak and Coaching were major issues today

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InTheZone said:
Absolutely pathetic against a worthy opponent. The game was winnable and I'm tired of hearing that for every loss. Good enough to feel like we're fine, but not bad enough to overhaul the team.

I sure hope I'm wrong but I feel like it's safe to write the season off. Lose next week we won't see any changes, but I'd be in favor of finding out a lot about our backups mixed in with starters.
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Dak missed a couple throws early, should have started with the gloves.

Given the conditions, after that, I thought he did well.

Should have had the chance to make that final drive - threw a strike to Cooper on 4th and 11
 
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Jake said:
Dak wasn't any worse than Brady. But Brady got to start two possessions in Cowboys territory thanks to his defense and special teams - they produced 10 points.

The Cowboys have to drive 80 yards all day because of their defense and special teams making no plays, whatsoever.
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I think some of you don't even watch the games and need to lay off then stat sheets. To say Dak was no worse than Brady is simply outrageous. Brady was putting dimes on receivers, they were dropping them. Dak couldn't hit a guy in stride except for around 2 times all game. Too many non urgent lob passes in the flats, throwing the ball where the DB had an easy deflection, absolutely no comparison. Option plays where he should've kept and ran and instead gave it to zeke in a pile of defenders. And whoever said I'm only blaming Dak has a hard time reading apparently. No TDs and our defense did their job yet some of you hysterically say offense wasn't the problem. Guys, you can't make this up.
 

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Dak played hard in awful conditions not really his fault at all, he made one bad decision that cost them 3 points.
 

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I don’t get this? Why are many acting like Dallas has a shot? They didn’t...they never did. I don’t give a flying hoot about singular plays and the minute details..it’s moot. This is a decent team who’s not good enough beat the best,who’s in a staff transition,with a slow owner who needs all reasons to keep crossed off his list first. Enjoy Thanksgiving game everyone...
 
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AmariChill said:
The fact that we went in thinking the passing game against the best secondary in the league was going to work in itself is nothing short of stupid. Especially in the weather conditions. The interception Dak threw was terrible. I agree. Him deciding not to run is also suspicious to me, but that’s a topic for another day. Everything else wasn’t his fault. Witten dropping every pass thrown his way. Every 3rd down conversion being taken away because of a “holding” or “tripping call”. He put gloves on and made adjustments. Some of those 4th down punt/field goal calls were punk wussy calls. Not his fault. Some of the WR’s (Jarwin at first especially) couldn’t hold onto the ball or do anything with the ball. Dak had some great passes today. Including the Jarwin out of bounds (could shoulda been TD).


Coaching is inexcusable though.
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I honestly think they didn't prepare for inclement weather at all. Also the special teams is laughably bad. It almost feels intentional at this point how bad they've been.
 
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Blaming Dak, that's original.

Yep, it was Dak who completed a pass for a 1st down, only to be brought back on a holding cal.

It was Dak who completed a pass to Cobb, only be brought back by a Penalty.

I believe there was another first down taken away because of another tripping call?

Yep, all Dak, of course, LOL. Laughable. It was Dak as well who dropped passes that were usually caught. It was Dak who got a punt blocked. It was Dak who couldn't figure out where to line up the players on special teams.

Yep, ALL DAK..

Well, you got one part correct, IT WAS COACHING. What a shock, coaching helps in yet another game Dallas could've won. Running 90 million and having success? Let's try a trick play here, YEAH!!!

Dak had a part in the loss, of course, ALL THE PLAYERS DO. But, once again, this is coaching. Pure and simple.
 
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InTheZone said:
Absolutely pathetic against a worthy opponent. The game was winnable and I'm tired of hearing that for every loss. Good enough to feel like we're fine, but not bad enough to overhaul the team.

I sure hope I'm wrong but I feel like it's safe to write the season off. Lose next week we won't see any changes, but I'd be in favor of finding out a lot about our backups mixed in with starters.
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Dak wasn't that bad but coaching is again a huge issue, The slow starts and magic 4th quarters didn't work out so well again.
 
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InTheZone said:
Absolutely pathetic against a worthy opponent. The game was winnable and I'm tired of hearing that for every loss. Good enough to feel like we're fine, but not bad enough to overhaul the team.

I sure hope I'm wrong but I feel like it's safe to write the season off. Lose next week we won't see any changes, but I'd be in favor of finding out a lot about our backups mixed in with starters.
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johnnygt said:
This isn’t trying to call you out or anything. But a RPO isn’t designed for the QB to run. The play call has a run and a pass option, once it’s hiked the quarterback tries to read how the line backers are going to play the offensive line pulls and he decides to hand off to running back or pass. Run pass option. Now we could both agree they could use some option style football with zeke and dak. I think they did once. But I just wanted to point out a RPO isn’t for the QB to run or pass.
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Fair enough. The first 3 seasons there were plays for him to run by design. This season, not so much unless the play breaks down. It's a part of Prescott's arsenal that threaten a defense and we're not utilizing. Poor coaching.
 
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stiletto said:
Yeah one of the best defenses in the NFL had something to do with it too, for sure. You're right.
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....and we're supposed to be one of the best offenses. I guess we found out who the frauds were.

Remember what Dak said? "Patriots haven't seen an offense likes ours yet" - First off, they did and that team actually beat the Patriots. "BUT THE ELEMENTS" - This is playoff weather, you find a freakin' way to win.
 
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stiletto said:
We lost the game because of Special Teams..... you know that right??
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you know that special teams can be coached, right?

you know that the HC is responsible to get the team ready to play, right?
 
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rocyaice said:
Dak wasn’t on it today but in games like these he needs help from special teams or the defense. It never happens though.
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I'll agree on the special teams

but when your defense only surrenders 13 points and 7 of those were on a 20 yard drive, I'm finding it hard to rationalize the "defense contributed nothing" argument.

If you only need 14 points to win a football game in today's offense friendly NFL, you should never lose a game. Period.

Fact is--we've lost 2 such games this year (NE, and NO)
That's a problem whether people want to admit it or not. And "weather" wasn't a factor in the Superdome.
 
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BoysForLife said:
I'll agree on the special teams

but when your defense only surrenders 13 points and 7 of those were on a 20 yard drive, I'm finding it hard to rationalize the "defense contributed nothing" argument.

If you only need 14 points to win a football game in today's offense friendly NFL, you should never lose a game. Period.

Fact is--we've lost 2 such games this year (NE, and NO)
That's a problem whether people want to admit it or not. And "weather" wasn't a factor in the Superdome.
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I feel the the Patriots offense sucks and made our defense look better than they were. Like what did the unit really do good yesterday? We needed turnovers and they didn’t come against Bridgewater and they surely wasn’t coming against Brady.
 
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rocyaice said:
I feel the the Patriots offense sucks and made our defense look better than they were. Like what did the unit really do good yesterday? We needed turnovers and they didn’t come against Bridgewater and they surely wasn’t coming against Brady.
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That's fine but all the money is invested in the offense

Therefore so too is more of the responsibility

If you're saying (as you seem to be) that the defense has to not only hold the opposition under 14 points but also create turnovers to avoid blame, then why on Earth are we talking about paying Dak?

Take that $40 million and go buy a bunch of FA defensive playmakers instead

I still keep coming back to if you've lost 2 games in 6 weeks where 14 points would have been enough to win, then you have an offensive issue in those losses
 
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BoysForLife said:
That's fine but all the money is invested in the offense

Therefore so too is more of the responsibility

If you're saying (as you seem to be) that the defense has to not only hold the opposition under 14 points but also create turnovers to avoid blame, then why on Earth are we talking about paying Dak?

Take that $40 million and go buy a bunch of FA defensive playmakers instead

I still keep coming back to if you've lost 2 games in 6 weeks where 14 points would have been enough to win, then you have an offensive issue in those losses
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No that’s not what I’m saying.


For instance look at Brady. Weather conditions sucked. Guys dropped footballs and Brady overthrew receivers. So when he struggled he got help by another unit. A unit they take serious. Your quarterback is going to struggle some games. But when ours does he has to bail himself out because coaching, special teams and the defense won’t do it.

I’m sorry but you can’t ask your quarterback to go 75 yards every play and expect success. You basically put pressure on your offense to make mistake free football while trying to sustain 75 yard drives. It’s moronic and not a winning formula.
 
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