When was the last time we got a high draft pick for a player?

Stash · Dec 10, 2019

jazzcat22 said:
As long as it works.

Not like Garrett has had any sort of a sterling record on off the field stuff anyway.

Galian Beast · Dec 10, 2019

OmerV said:
You can't say I'm wrong by giving stats that are on the reverse side of what I said was right.

Besides, you came up with 4 examples over 19 years, so that doesn't really dispute the idea these trades are rare. Actually only 3 examples - the Cowboys got Henson for a 3rd round pick.

As for Amari Cooper, he fits the category I mentioned of being traded by a team in a rebuild mode. The Raiders also traded away Kahlil Mack as part of that rebuild and their focus was on accumulating top draft picks.

The Lions also fit into that category when they traded Roy Williams. They were in the midst of an 0-16 season at that time

Galloway was 19 years ago, and Roy Williams was 10 years ago. Not exactly part of a flood of those kinds of trades. And all different teams, so none represent a team making those trades frequently.

That was just examples with the cowboys and the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Other teams are involved in quite a few more.

Galian Beast · Dec 10, 2019

JoeKing said:
I'm not interested in tearing down this team and rebuilding. That's what would have to be going on if we are getting high draft picks in a trade for talent already on the team. So that's why we haven't heard it in a while.

How many times have the Patriots rebuilt?

kskboys · Dec 10, 2019

Stuff we've passed up:

Tashard Choice for Antonio Cromartie
1st or 2nd for Mike Jenkins(And it was after we already had his replacement on the roster)
2nd for MartyB.

Those are simply the ones that are known. Basically, we do a very poor job at evaluating players, especially our own.

Silverz1972 · Dec 10, 2019

Not after the hershel walker trade. Lol

OmerV · Dec 10, 2019

Galian Beast said:
That was just examples with the cowboys and the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Other teams are involved in quite a few more.

I said it isn't common for teams to trade away an elite player for a #1 pick unless they are in a full rebuild mode, and you gave examples of the Cowboys trading a #1 pick for a player, so those examples aren't even applicable to what I wrote. And even in those cases, it was 3 instances over 19 years, so you can't even say it is common for the Cowboys to trade away #1 picks for a player. And on top of that, I mentioned rebuild modes as the exception where teams are more willing to part with elite players for a #1 pick, and with 2 of the 3 examples you noted those teams were in a rebuild mode. That leaves you with 1 example from 19 years ago, and it doesn't apply to what I wrote.

fansince68 · Dec 10, 2019

What cha getting at? Who could we move for a first?

Galian Beast · Dec 10, 2019

OmerV said:
I said it isn't common for teams to trade away an elite player for a #1 pick unless they are in a full rebuild mode, and you gave examples of the Cowboys trading a #1 pick for a player, so those examples aren't even applicable to what I wrote. And even in those cases, it was 3 instances over 19 years, so you can't even say it is common for the Cowboys to trade away #1 picks for a player. And on top of that, I mentioned rebuild modes as the exception where teams are more willing to part with elite players for a #1 pick, and with 2 of the 3 examples you noted those teams were in a rebuild mode. That leaves you with 1 example from 19 years ago, and it doesn't apply to what I wrote.

This is just this year...

https://nfltraderumors.co/traded-nfl-draft-picks/

JoeKing · Dec 10, 2019

Galian Beast said:
How many times have the Patriots rebuilt?

I don't keep up with the Patriots. Stop asking stupid questions.

DFWJC · Dec 10, 2019

Galian Beast said:
That's certainly not true and I can tell you just a few times where the reverse has been true for us. It takes two to tango.

Amari Cooper
Roy Williams
Joey Galloway
Drew Henson

That's off the top of my head.

So Cooper is the only one in over a decade
So pretty rare.

Dallas usually keeps the players they want to keep.
Teams that trade a away players that bring in a 1st usually either don't plan to pay the player or want to hoard draft picks to rebuild. Usually.

plasticman · Dec 11, 2019

Back in the 70's the Cowboys could trade from a position of strength. They were loaded with talent and their success caused other teams to overvalue the players.

The Cowboys traded two former 1st round picks, DE Tody Smith and QB Craig Morton within a three year span. They were both backups at that point and both were traded in exchange for that team"s 1st round pick in the next draft.

Wouldn't you know? One of them ended up as the fist pick overall and the other was a 2nd pick overall in the 1st round.

That's how the Cowboys ended up with half of a legendary defensive line in the form of DT Randy White and DE Ed "Too Tall" Jones.

If you are looking at the last time the Cowboys straight up traded a player for a high pick,. Pro Football Reference had records of trades dating back to 1994. The only high picks received by the Cowboys involved maneuvering up and down the draft board.

My memory is probably flawed but I can't think of a Cowboy that was traded BY the Cowboys in which they received a high pick
since Steve Walsh.

xwalker · Dec 11, 2019

Galian Beast said:
When was the last time we got a 1st round draft pick for a player? A 2nd or even a 3rd?

The idea is to acquire players, not to ship them to another team...

Tangle_Foot · Dec 11, 2019

As @ Plasticman stated the last trade the Cowboys received high picks was the Steve Walsh trade with the saints, the Cowboys receiving picks 14 - 52 & 70...Pick number 70 was turned into Erik Williams. Picks 52 and 14 were traded to New England for the first overall pick where the Cowboys selected Russell Maryland.

LatinMind · Dec 11, 2019

LandryFan said:
Hershel Walker is the last I can recall. But then I'm old and maybe my memory isn't what it used to be...

steve walsh

Galian Beast · Dec 11, 2019

xwalker said:
The idea is to acquire players, not to ship them to another team...

The idea is to maintain value, which helps you acquire players. Keeping players too long and paying players too long doesn't help the team. The lack of trades is indicative of our lost value.

Galian Beast · Dec 11, 2019

DFWJC said:
So Cooper is the only one in over a decade
So pretty rare.

Dallas usually keeps the players they want to keep.
Teams that trade a away players that bring in a 1st usually either don't plan to pay the player or want to hoard draft picks to rebuild. Usually.

Hoarding draft picks isn't only to rebuild. Again, look at the Patriots. That is how they maintain value on their team. They don't overpay players. They'll trade them for picks and those picks result in cheaper players. It isn't rocket science.

Galian Beast · Dec 11, 2019

JoeKing said:
I don't keep up with the Patriots. Stop asking stupid questions.

The irony.

LandryFan · Dec 11, 2019

LatinMind said:
steve walsh

You're right. Walker was in the first of JJ's offseasons, Walsh was traded the next.

glimmerman · Dec 11, 2019

Only if we get a new staff and they rebuild and clean house player wise also. JJ won’t want to do that, he wants that SB now.

DFWJC · Dec 11, 2019

Galian Beast said:
Hoarding draft picks isn't only to rebuild. Again, look at the Patriots. That is how they maintain value on their team. They don't overpay players. They'll trade them for picks and those picks result in cheaper players. It isn't rocket science.

Was referring to high 1st round picks (or even lower 1st rounders to a lessor degree) int this thread.
Pat usually trade sown to hoard lower picks. Never have high 1sts

When was the last time we got a high draft pick for a player?

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