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Stash · Jan 21, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Sure, obviously didn’t have a mandate with what appeared a Dead-End situation with Jerry’s favorite Puppet.

But public pressure changed everything with Jerry finally after all of these years. It really didn’t have anything to do with lack of success as Jerry would have continued down the same path. Didn’t see it coming.

This hire is alllll about winning now though as Coach has correctly assessed. Jerry thinks this team is good enough to win now. Or he at least has sold that perception to the public and wants to make every effort to see it through.

The good news I hope with Jerry being forced to get out of his comfort zone is we will return to churning thru HC 2-4 years again until he hits the jackpot or croaks.

And yea, I’m having fun with Fat Mikey much like y’all did with the Clapper. You gotta love the Homer Wagon mimick. Thanks to Coach for spurring the thought in me. Should be a fun season .

Double down on looking dumb.

You made excuses for the never-was head coach and try to criticize the guy that's actually won.

Mike McCarthy doesn't look bad here, you do.

Once again...

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

willia451 said:
I don't see how anyone can look at this defense and ST and say we'll make it to the NFCCG this coming season. It is also true the offense struggled against playoff caliber defenses.

Some of that can indeed be fixed by coaching. Better game management. More accountability. Play calling. New ST coach. Etc.

But ALL of it?

I have no idea what is going through the Jones family hive mind. But we need help at DT, LB, DB, and LT at a minimum. Imagine if Sean Lee decides to retire in March and LVE proves ineffective after his surgery. Then it gets even MORE sketchy.

We'll see.

Like Coach has said correctly. It only matters what the Jone$ think and the perception that comes out of it.

It wasn’t just them that thought this team was talented enough to make a deeper run. Much of the media and analysts did as well.

Creeper · Jan 21, 2020

Good analysis. I think the new Cowboys coaches have a huge test this off-season. Who to retain and who they can let go to free agency. Then, they have the big holes to fill on defense. I think its clear, and you read it from Cowboys fans all the time, the Cowboys need better players in the middle of that Defensive line. Go on twitter, the Mailbag on DC.com, on talk radio, everywhere and everyone has two wishes for Dallas - DT and Safety. The Cowboys have ignored the problem for years and even compounded it by talking up Maliek Collins every off-season. Nothing against Maliek, but he is just not good enough. The Cowboys need their version of Fletcher Cox, then a good solid rotation around him. The question is how do they get a guy like that? I personally like Javon Kinlaw. He is big and strong and can be disruptive in the middle. He is not a bowling ball, but I am not convinced being short and squat is necessary for a solid DT. Leon Lett and Jay Ratliff were both effective in the middle and neither were bowling balls.

I am sure by draft day other DTs will move up the draft board and at 17 Dallas should be able to get a good one. Of course had they tanked the last game they would have a shot at one of the top 2 DTs. If SF wins the SB, I have a feeling there will be an early run on DTs. If KC wins I have a feeling there will be a run on speedy WRs. But whoever wins Dallas should not be swayed from their real need at DT.

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

stasheroo said:
Double down on looking dumb.

You made excuses for the never-was head coach and try to criticize the guy that's actually won.

Mike McCarthy doesn't look bad here, you do.

Once again...

Fat Mikey hasnt won anything here yet.

Except hope on the Homer Wagon. Lol

MojaveJT · Jan 21, 2020

stasheroo said:
I find it hilarious that the guy (Greg) who's had ridiculous patience with Jason Garrett, suddenly puts a mandate on a Super Bowl winning coach in Mike McCarthy.

x1000. Exactly what I thought. Calls him Fat Mike and says no championship game in 2 years = bust. Laughable.

willia451 · Jan 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
willia, not talking about what we think, what do you think the Joneses think?

I agree with your assessment and that's if they keep everybody but all the Joneses heard during the season was talent...talent....talent. The Cowboys have as good as any team and are underachieving.

And your post doesn't take into account what the other teams that were in the NFC playoffs will do. We seem to focus inwardly when discussing the Cowboys and not on what the teams that were better then the Cowboys will do to stay that way.

I don't know what they think. I haven't listened to what they've had to say in years. If you say they think we're in a "Win it all Now" window then I believe you.

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
And I agree with you unless they do not re-sign Cooper and/or Jones and that changes the team board. They went deep on DB's in one draft and what did that get them?

Big Mike likes him some big boys in the middle but he also likes him some studs on the back end. And Nolan wants DB's with ball skills.

Right. And what about TE.

If Cooper and Witten don’t return we could go WR and TE with first 2 picks. They already know what Dak is without a WR1. Why would they want to risk that again if they can’t get deal done with Coop?

Stash · Jan 21, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Fat Mikey hasnt won anything here yet.

Except hope on the Homer Wagon. Lol

Now there's an even dumber comment, I didn't think was even possible.

Apparently, you're not even smart enough to realize what you're saying before you type it.

Hang your empty head.
:facepalm:

Or better yet, go follow your never-was head coach on his continuing misadventures in New York and spare us the nonsense posts around here any longer.

CouchCoach · Jan 21, 2020

stasheroo said:
Do you actually know who "they" is?

And you advocate for jumping on board a "runaway train".

And showed the rest of the league exactly what mistakes NOT to make.

So 3 out of 6 haven't shown they're worth it then. Not exactly a ringing endorsement to rush into the practice as you're advocating, is it?

I believe "they" is that "reliable source" within the club that leaks info they want out like they did with Owens in the clubhouse, Bryant's mysterious parking lot video and Prescott wanting 40M. I believe they is the son and that's part of his job. He's the media leak and the one with the relationships. Not ragging on him, they all have them for a healthy symbiotic relationship.

Sometimes the train just keeps a rollin' and you've got to stay on until the next station. And the Cowboys have an owner that will go all the way in the club car. Don't think he doesn't see value in having the highest paid QB, even for a short time.

I pointed that out as no reason not to do it. Teams will have to take a chance at that position, they do it in the draft and when they do subsequent deals. It's the cost of doing business and if they guess wrong, they become ATL, CAR, LAC and DET with highly paid QB's and nothing to show for it.

The NFL is constructed on calculated risk and they all know the odds are not in their favor. SEA pays Wilson 35M and loses every RB and has to bring two retired RB's back.

Re-signing Prescott is a calculated risk that they will take. The options, unless they think they could bring Rivers in on a short term deal, are limited. And that is something I would explore but I think NE is also eying that situation.

Stash · Jan 21, 2020

boxer-rumble said:
x1000. Exactly what I thought. Calls him Fat Mike and says no championship game in 2 years = bust. Laughable.

He's a joke.
:lmao:

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

boxer-rumble said:
x1000. Exactly what I thought. Calls him Fat Mike and says no championship game in 2 years = bust. Laughable.

We shall see.

If you think you have a talented enough team and hire a SB caliber HC what is the Bar we should set?

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

This isn’t a 4-5 year plan with Fat Mikey.

Win now or we’ll go spinning the wheel again. This is a roster Jerry wants to win now with.

DandyDon52 · Jan 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
When considering anything the Cowboys will do in this off season, the Time is Now filter should be used because that's what this hire at HC was all about.

Their Own FA's - they will err on the side of keeping the team together because the window is open but it is unknown how long that will be. The dominant feeling the Joneses have is this team has the talent to get it done and underachieved. Talent gets the nod and coaching the blame.

Other Teams FA's - They usually hold back until the second wave; however, they saw some real success from teams that stepped up to pay for the better talent. GB, SF, SEA, all made significant additions and were in the final four. The Cowboys have some space and can create more. They've got to pay to play and they know it.

The QB - They do not want a tagged QB going into this season, they have a new HC and need stability at that position and want to send the message "this is our guy", most importantly from the new HC, considered to be a QB guru. No ?'s about the QB position. They want this behind them and sooner than later and might surprise us with what they're willing to do to get that done.

The Draft - They need players that can play from the get go, no Jaylon Smith or Trysten Hill's here and don't be surprised if they trade up or back up into the 1st round to get multiple starters. They need players to play now.

Big Mike was smart, he did his homework, studied the team, and came prepared to sell the Joneses that he could win with these guys with a couple of tweaks here and there. Exactly what the owner wanted to hear. The owner, once the decision was made to move on, made it clear he wanted an experienced NFL HC for one simple reason, the Time Is Now.

So, when we're debating moves they can make, I'd keep pushing everything through that filter. Does this move put them in a better position to win now? Because Now is all that matters.

And while that's a 5 year contract with Big Mike, in the owner's mind, it's a 2 year contract to get this team to at least the NFCCG. That's what the owner needs and wants and that's exactly what the new HC sold him.

Yeah I agree, but I think SB not ccg.
MM did a good job selling himself to jones boys, but now can he do a good job going for a SB.
One flaw I see so far is he is hiring friends and colleages, and I would go for the best people, not my friends.

shabazz · Jan 21, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Totally agree CC.

This hire of Fat Mikey is allllllll about winning now. If he doesn’t reach at least the championship game in 2 years. Adios amigo !!

This upcoming draft and Free agency will tell us if MM believes the present talent will suffice. Hopefully in 2 years we will know if its been coaching or personnel, but for now its an unknown. Winning a SB in 2 years is a lofty goal, but reaching the Championship game may be probable if one believes the talent is in place

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
I believe "they" is that "reliable source" within the club that leaks info they want out like they did with Owens in the clubhouse, Bryant's mysterious parking lot video and Prescott wanting 40M. I believe they is the son and that's part of his job. He's the media leak and the one with the relationships. Not ragging on him, they all have them for a healthy symbiotic relationship.

Sometimes the train just keeps a rollin' and you've got to stay on until the next station. And the Cowboys have an owner that will go all the way in the club car. Don't think he doesn't see value in having the highest paid QB, even for a short time.

I pointed that out as no reason not to do it. Teams will have to take a chance at that position, they do it in the draft and when they do subsequent deals. It's the cost of doing business and if they guess wrong, they become ATL, CAR, LAC and DET with highly paid QB's and nothing to show for it.

The NFL is constructed on calculated risk and they all know the odds are not in their favor. SEA pays Wilson 35M and loses every RB and has to bring two retired RB's back.

Re-signing Prescott is a calculated risk that they will take. The options, unless they think they could bring Rivers in on a short term deal, are limited. And that is something I would explore but I think NE is also eying that situation.

They are looking to sign Dak. A tag would only represent a temporary setback. They are All In on Dak. And Fat Mikey went along with it or he wouldn’t be here.

Diehardblues · Jan 21, 2020

shabazz said:
This upcoming draft and Free agency will tell us if MM believes the present talent will suffice. Hopefully in 2 years we will know if its been coaching or personnel, but for now its an unknown. Winning a SB in 2 years is a lofty goal, but reaching the Championship game may be probable if one believes the talent is in place

I use the SB or Bust as a Pun. But yea, getting to at least a championship game will get him more than 2 years.

But any early struggles or disappointing finishes will make Jone$ nervous and begin inserting themselves more. Another missed playoff or one and done might be enough.

MojaveJT · Jan 21, 2020

Diehardblues said:
We shall see.

If you think you have a talented enough team and hire a SB caliber HC what is the Bar we should set?

I have high expectations as well.

So if you expect MM to go where the Cowboys haven’t been in decades within 2 years and then turn around and defend JG’s 10yr tenure of why he didn’t - does that mean you really had low expectation of Garrett? Or figured he was never good enough bring a chip here?

Hawkeye0202 · Jan 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
I do think it is and I think that was one of the reasons they floated that 40M figure out there last year, getting the fans used to a much higher number when the deal is actually inked.

Ya know, we do not look at these deals like the GM's do. They take guarantee and prorate that over the term and that's the number. If they want to do a comparison on how that stacks up, they project the salary for that position out over the term.

Prescott could very well be the highest paid QB in the NFL for about a week. By 2021, I will be surprised if he's in the top 10. This QB salary thing is a runaway train and these GM's have to figure out where to jump on and off. You can bet the league has crunched the numbers and made a forecast of where it's headed along with the cap and the QB's disproportionate share of the increase.

Cousins tagging started this by raising the floor and the comps changed from where the best QB is paid to where the highest paid is. And Cousins ended up with the first all guaranteed contract at 3 X 28M, what has he accomplished except getting paid?

There are 6 QB's in the 30-35M range right now, 3 didn't make the playoffs and only 1 made the final 4. QB's are not paid on accomplishment but on the value to that team to keep them. And the lack of available options.

like I've said many times, being a starting NFL QB and the market is all that matters for QBs today. If you're starter and team say you're their guy, lots of $$$$$$$$$ coming.

Stash · Jan 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
I believe "they" is that "reliable source" within the club that leaks info they want out like they did with Owens in the clubhouse, Bryant's mysterious parking lot video and Prescott wanting 40M. I believe they is the son and that's part of his job. He's the media leak and the one with the relationships. Not ragging on him, they all have them for a healthy symbiotic relationship.

Just so you're straight, "they" was Prescott's representatives, throwing out that $40 million number to counter what they felt was the insulting $25 million a year the Cowboys initially offered. If you think the Cowboys did that to "prepare the fanbase", you're entirely wrong.

Sometimes the train just keeps a rollin' and you've got to stay on until the next station. And the Cowboys have an owner that will go all the way in the club car. Don't think he doesn't see value in having the highest paid QB, even for a short time.

And sometimes, there are other valuable trains coming from other directions that you can get on board. Never a year with more "trains" available either.

I pointed that out as no reason not to do it. Teams will have to take a chance at that position, they do it in the draft and when they do subsequent deals. It's the cost of doing business and if they guess wrong, they become ATL, CAR, LAC and DET with highly paid QB's and nothing to show for it.

The NFL is constructed on calculated risk and they all know the odds are not in their favor. SEA pays Wilson 35M and loses every RB and has to bring two retired RB's back.

Re-signing Prescott is a calculated risk that they will take. The options, unless they think they could bring Rivers in on a short term deal, are limited. And that is something I would explore but I think NE is also eying that situation.

That's exactly the other "trains" I was referring to. Plenty of them this year and Prescott and his reps would be wise to realize that.

shabazz · Jan 21, 2020

Diehardblues said:
I use the SB or Bust as a Pun. But yea, getting to at least a championship game will get him more than 2 years.

A part of me would like to see the personnel stay the same just to see if coaching has held us back, but realistically there will be changes. Maybe some of the players weren't put in position to succeed. Of course I know the GM will have to inject himself into the equation for better or worse

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