How does McCarthy make the Cowboys better?

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Not necessarily. I don't have a problem with an offensive minded coach, who also has a track record of having excellent defenses. It's just that the knock on McCarthy of having inconsistent defenses, is the same reason Garrett failed in Dallas. And McCarthy's playoff success is only marginally better than Garrett's, despite having Favre and Rodgers as his QB's.

I was mainly looking for a real new beginning. But maybe the Jones family is correct. With the current roster, parts of the team (OLine especially) are getting long in the tooth. Maybe the "win now" desire necessitated hiring someone to tweak the existing strategy for winning, rather than overhauling their approach with a whole new strategy. In some sense, keeping Garrett for so long WAS a change from the past for Jerry, who changed out Head Coaches like underwear before Garrett.

Mostly, I'm simply looking for a reason to re-engage as a fan. I don't see that reason in McCarthy.

Whether I agree or disagree with each individual post or not, I just wanted to give you a shout out on how well I think you express your opinions here. Always an enjoyable read.
 

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The biggest question for Cowboys fans is why Jerry insisted on hiring an offensive minded coach in Mike McCarthy for a team that already has the #1 offense in the NFL. It's like he just doesn't understand how important defense is. Is Mike Nolan the answer on defense? Really?

The Cowboys, under both Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells, fielded the #1 defense in the NFL. Both of them understand what it takes to build a championship team - excellent defense. I am not sanguine about the hire of Mike McCarthy. It is highly unlikely he will materially improve the team over the level of offensive performance that Garrett had in his tenure in Dallas.

Over the 13 years that Jason Garrett presided as either Offensive Coordinator and/or Head Coach in Dallas, the Cowboys' offense ranked 4th in total offensive production (367 ypg), and 6th in offensive points per game (24.3 ppg). Having a productive offense in both yards and scoring was not a problem for the Cowboys under Garrett. (Those who are counting on Garrett to fall on his face in New York are likely to be surprised and disappointed.)

The issue for Garrett as Head Coach is he could never consistently field a good defense. When push came to shove, and when nut-cutting time came in the playoffs, Dallas consistently fielded an impotent defense.

Mike McCarthy had the exact same problem in Green Bay. With the exception of the one year the Packers made it to the Super Bowl as the 6th seed in the NFC playoffs, and upset the Steelers, McCarthy fielded top offensive teams, but consistently poor defenses. Even with All-world Aaron Rodgers, the Packers haven't been able to get back to the big game in a decade.

So, I'm wondering if Mike McCarthy is Fool's Gold for Cowboys fans. How is he not EXACTLY what the Cowboys just got rid of?

As for Garrett, he will not be responsible for the defense for the Giants. If Joe Judge can field a good defense, chances are very high the Giants will be very good very soon. If not, then they will become a carbon copy of what the Cowboys have been over the last 13 seasons. I suppose that for Garrett haters, at least some Cowboys fans can cheer for the Giants to be mediocre. But how does that help the rest of us fans who want another Super Bowl trophy in Dallas?

P.S. I waited two weeks to post this, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like this decision. Jerry is just repeating the mistake he made with Garrett. That's my gut feel. I hope I'm wrong.
I hope you're wrong too.

I was talking to someone today who said he'd heard that McCarthy had most of his assistant coaches lined up long before the season was over, in preparation for getting a new job. He also said Big Mac was drawing up his schemes and such with some of them. Hopefully he has all three phases worked out, and worked out well. If he can't come up with a good game plan with a full year to work on it, he isn't what we were hoping for.....but at least we'll have a new set of sarcastic remarks about our HC.
 
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I hope you're wrong too.

I was talking to someone today who said he'd heard that McCarthy had most of his assistant coaches lined up long before the season was over, in preparation for getting a new job. He also said Big Mac was drawing up his schemes and such with some of them. Hopefully he has all three phases worked out, and worked out well. If he can't come up with a good game plan with a full year to work on it, he isn't what we were hoping for.....but at least we'll have a new set of sarcastic remarks about our HC.

I can already see that the comments won't be about clapping; instead, they'll be about the buffet table. Haters gotta find something to hate about.

Final comment: I think McCarthy will be a good coach for the Cowboys. He may do marginally better than Garrett, or interference from the Jones family may frustrate his efforts, and the Cowboys may continue on the path of mediocrity - better than average over the long haul, but not good enough in any one season to become champions. I'm open minded, but not hopeful.
 

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NFL games aren’t won with elite defense anymore. They are won by throwing the ball more efficiently than your opponent. Some good teams do this by having a great passing defense, some by having a great passing offense, and some by being good at both but all championship caliber teams at seasons end found some way to consistently be more efficient passing the ball than their opponents.

So I guess I don’t share your fears because your underlying premise is flawed.

SF won throwing it 8 times, their defense killed GB and SF running game was unstoppable.
 

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Not necessarily. I don't have a problem with an offensive minded coach, who also has a track record of having excellent defenses. It's just that the knock on McCarthy of having inconsistent defenses, is the same reason Garrett failed in Dallas. And McCarthy's playoff success is only marginally better than Garrett's, despite having Favre and Rodgers as his QB's.

McCarthy took his teams to the playoffs in 9 of his 13 years (69%). Garrett took his teams to the playoffs in 3 out of 9 years (33%).

McCarthy took the Packers to the NFC Championship Game 4 times, Garrett never even made it to 1.


Stop with this false narrative where their accomplishments are even close.

I was mainly looking for a real new beginning. But maybe the Jones family is correct. With the current roster, parts of the team (OLine especially) are getting long in the tooth. Maybe the "win now" desire necessitated hiring someone to tweak the existing strategy for winning, rather than overhauling their approach with a whole new strategy. In some sense, keeping Garrett for so long WAS a change from the past for Jerry, who changed out Head Coaches like underwear before Garrett.

Mostly, I'm simply looking for a reason to re-engage as a fan. I don't see that reason in McCarthy.

Then you're covering your eyes.
 

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Not necessarily. I don't have a problem with an offensive minded coach, who also has a track record of having excellent defenses. It's just that the knock on McCarthy of having inconsistent defenses, is the same reason Garrett failed in Dallas. And McCarthy's playoff success is only marginally better than Garrett's, despite having Favre and Rodgers as his QB's.

I was mainly looking for a real new beginning. But maybe the Jones family is correct. With the current roster, parts of the team (OLine especially) are getting long in the tooth. Maybe the "win now" desire necessitated hiring someone to tweak the existing strategy for winning, rather than overhauling their approach with a whole new strategy. In some sense, keeping Garrett for so long WAS a change from the past for Jerry, who changed out Head Coaches like underwear before Garrett.

Mostly, I'm simply looking for a reason to re-engage as a fan. I don't see that reason in McCarthy.

One Superbowl victory and FOUR NFC championship appearances is more than marginally better. Garrett didn't make it past the divisional round ONCE! I respect where you are coming from but I couldn't disagree more on that point.
 

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I can already see that the comments won't be about clapping; instead, they'll be about the buffet table. Haters gotta find something to hate about.

Final comment: I think McCarthy will be a good coach for the Cowboys. He may do marginally better than Garrett, or interference from the Jones family may frustrate his efforts, and the Cowboys may continue on the path of mediocrity - better than average over the long haul, but not good enough in any one season to become champions. I'm open minded, but not hopeful.
Well done Jumbo.

Sometimes just a change of scenery or route is welcomed even if the destination is the same or similar.
 

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The biggest question for Cowboys fans is why Jerry insisted on hiring an offensive minded coach in Mike McCarthy for a team that already has the #1 offense in the NFL. It's like he just doesn't understand how important defense is. Is Mike Nolan the answer on defense? Really?

The Cowboys, under both Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells, fielded the #1 defense in the NFL. Both of them understand what it takes to build a championship team - excellent defense. I am not sanguine about the hire of Mike McCarthy. It is highly unlikely he will materially improve the team over the level of offensive performance that Garrett had in his tenure in Dallas.

Over the 13 years that Jason Garrett presided as either Offensive Coordinator and/or Head Coach in Dallas, the Cowboys' offense ranked 4th in total offensive production (367 ypg), and 6th in offensive points per game (24.3 ppg). Having a productive offense in both yards and scoring was not a problem for the Cowboys under Garrett. (Those who are counting on Garrett to fall on his face in New York are likely to be surprised and disappointed.)

The issue for Garrett as Head Coach is he could never consistently field a good defense. When push came to shove, and when nut-cutting time came in the playoffs, Dallas consistently fielded an impotent defense.

Mike McCarthy had the exact same problem in Green Bay. With the exception of the one year the Packers made it to the Super Bowl as the 6th seed in the NFC playoffs, and upset the Steelers, McCarthy fielded top offensive teams, but consistently poor defenses. Even with All-world Aaron Rodgers, the Packers haven't been able to get back to the big game in a decade.

So, I'm wondering if Mike McCarthy is Fool's Gold for Cowboys fans. How is he not EXACTLY what the Cowboys just got rid of?

As for Garrett, he will not be responsible for the defense for the Giants. If Joe Judge can field a good defense, chances are very high the Giants will be very good very soon. If not, then they will become a carbon copy of what the Cowboys have been over the last 13 seasons. I suppose that for Garrett haters, at least some Cowboys fans can cheer for the Giants to be mediocre. But how does that help the rest of us fans who want another Super Bowl trophy in Dallas?

P.S. I waited two weeks to post this, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like this decision. Jerry is just repeating the mistake he made with Garrett. That's my gut feel. I hope I'm wrong.

If you cant see the difference between a guy like MM and Garrett, then there is no point explaining it. Just based on the power that MM has had over what Garrett had should be evidence enough for a start.
 

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i hope he can do miracles with the QB, if not get a real one.

It's THE most important element that seems to be overlooked by a few here. All these gaudy win loss records as a coach with his previous team where he had back to back HOF/Multiple MVP QBs who both suffered from garbage defenses in the playoffs.

The true narrative is being overlooked I just can't tell if it's intentional or not, lol.

IF those believe that the current QB is on a level with the current HC's former Qbs then...

Uh...

Yeah.
 

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In the end the proof will be in the pudding.

But after 25 years of Jerry’s foolishness we all should be skeptical.
 

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The problem with your argument is that the Cowboys ranked 6th in the NFL in scoring this season at 27.1 ppg, in addition to 1st in yards per game. Offense wasn't the issue.
Offensecis prolific against bad defenses, horrific against good defenses.
 

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SF won because the threw the ball more efficiently than GB and dominated the TO battle.

Next?

They ran the ball 285 yards and 4 TD, they threw the ball 8 time for 77 yards and 0 TD. Defense of the 9ers shut packers down through out the game claiming 3 turnovers. This game had nothing to do with SF passing, 6 of 8? Your comment is a joke, Get a clue. NEXT!!!!
 

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One Superbowl victory and FOUR NFC championship appearances is more than marginally better. Garrett didn't make it past the divisional round ONCE! I respect where you are coming from but I couldn't disagree more on that point.

It's patently false. And the OP refuses to acknowledge that, rendering this thread as nothing more than baseless, untrue propaganda.

I openly question the "math" used in the first post about Garrett's offenses rankings as well. But all valid questions have been disregarded.
 
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