Kick the tires on backup QBs?

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Mr_437 said:
No. I'm talking about bringing in a QB that can deal... that's what I said. And DAL should and should've by all means brought in a baller cause Dak ain't nowhere close to the QBs I named.
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Yea I know what you said. That's not the examples you gave.

This "QB who can deal" and give the Cowboys leverage in negotiations does not exist, because that is not a scenario that exists.
 
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I have my doubts that Cooper Rush is our answer for backup QB. Makes me suspect it might be a good idea to draft or trade for another backup QB, someone whom we can win with if Dak goes down for something like 4 games. I still have nightmares over the 2015 season. I see Paxton Lynch has ended up on the Steelers' roster as a backup. He's who I originally wanted the team to draft in 2016. I had kind hoped the team would have claimed him off waivers when the Broncos released him. I have wondered if he would be a better backup than Rush. Or is he just another Brandon Weeden?

Do you guys think Rush is our guy for backup? Or is there someone you think would be an upgrade who's possible to get?
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We really don't know about Rush because he has never had the chance to show what he can do in the regular season. But I think it's natural to have concerns because I think we've seen enough to know he has physical limitations. I would feel better with a backup that has some NFL regular season experience with at least some decent level of results.
 
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daboyzruleperiod said:
Us fans have the tendency on looking at the obvious while ignoring what MM is eyeing. I'm sure MM has his own list of backup and developmental QB's from around the league.

What about a guy like Brett Hundley, who is about to become a free agent and was with MM in Green Bay from '16-'17?

That is just one example. Who knows what other players out there might be on MM's radar. Remember, he just spent all of '19 watching the entire NFL and preparing for his return.
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Like your line of thinking here. A guy I thought was a decent backup a couple of years ago behind Dalton was A.J. McCarron.
Didn't Google to his whereabouts now but I wouldn't mind giving him a try along the same lines as your Hundley mention.
 
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Future said:
Yea I know what you said. That's not the examples you gave.

This "QB who can deal" and give the Cowboys leverage in negotiations does not exist, because that is not a scenario that exists.
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The Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a deal then drafted Russell Wilson. Alex Smith was 34 when Mahomes was drafted? Cowboys need as many good players as they can get. No need to draft scrubs at QBs when you don't have an elite guy. I'm saying go get good players and don't have poo butts taking up roster spots.
 
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The Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a deal then drafted Russell Wilson. Alex Smith was 34 when Mahomes was drafted? Cowboys need as many good players as they can get. No need to draft scrubs at QBs when you don't have an elite guy. I'm saying go get good players and don't have poo butts taking up roster spots.
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Yes draft good players.

You don't do that b/c it gives you leverage when negotiating a contract with your quarterback.
 
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Future said:
Well, independent of how irrelevant what teams did at quarterback 60 years ago is - both because of how the game is played and the salary cap - this is not what was being described.

Staubach wasn't the starter until 7 years after he was drafted as a 10th-round pick lol. Just not at all the same thing.
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What's your point? Morton was far from old when Roger came back to the team and he was far from bad. How is the situation completely different? You said it never happens and I and others gave you multiple examples of where it did.
 
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I'd rather the team just get into the habit of drafting a QB every year and being interested in developing backups behind the starter.

I mean, I could see the benefit of signing a good veteran as an insurance policy for 2020 since the whole premise of McCarthy's hiring was the win-now mindset... and that gets undermined the second our starting QB gets hurt and gives way to our recent trash at the backup spots.

But I'd like us to spend a pick anywhere from the 4th through 7th rounds on a QB to develop. And keep doing it until we hit on one who will be a great #2 with starter potential.

I don't wanna do the thing we mostly did during the Romo era where we feel content that we found a starter, so we throw a dart at a dartboard and pick a random veteran QB and stick him in the backup slot and put the entire position on cruise-control and stop trying or caring (until the day comes when the vet is forced into duty and we are shocked to learn he's bad and possibly also washed-up physically).
 
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Future said:
Mariotta is interesting, because he has a skillset similar enough to Dak's that I don't think you'd have to change the offense too much if Dak's out.
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Incredibly accurate statement.

His contract demands would be the only question mark to me.
 
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Mr_437 said:
If DAL is gonna bring in a QB get a who can deal. Problem is they always get QB who don't threaten the QB1, and that's why they get beat up at the negotiating table...and it's not just the QB position.

If you want to bring in a QB, let MM (QB guru) identify a guy and get him because the scouting department is struggling right now.
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If your QB2 is really a threat to your QB1 then you probably need another QB1
Very few QB2 in the league are a threat unless the team has a really bad starter
 
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SSoup said:
I'd rather the team just get into the habit of drafting a QB every year and being interested in developing backups behind the starter.

I mean, I could see the benefit of signing a good veteran as an insurance policy for 2020 since the whole premise of McCarthy's hiring was the win-now mindset... and that gets undermined the second our starting QB gets hurt and gives way to our recent trash at the backup spots.

But I'd like us to spend a pick anywhere from the 4th through 7th rounds on a QB to develop. And keep doing it until we hit on one who will be a great #2 with starter potential.

I don't wanna do the thing we mostly did during the Romo era where we feel content that we found a starter, so we throw a dart at a dartboard and pick a random veteran QB and stick him in the backup slot and put the entire position on cruise-control and stop trying or caring (until the day comes when the vet is forced into duty and we are shocked to learn he's bad and possibly also washed-up physically).
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Those are great points. I think that's exactly what happened in 2015. The coaches said they saw good things in Weeden, and he had been drafted in the first round by the Browns, but he was awful. Then the best free agent they could bring in was Matt Cassel, who had to try to perform as a quick study with no benefit of having gone through our training camp. I would rather seen McCarthy bring in a backup he likes now so that he can be in training camp learning the system. Then if he needs to play at any point, he'll be way more comfortable with the system than Cassel was.
 
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so long as the backup is not Rick Hunley - a McCarthy favorite in GB. .
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
What's your point? Morton was far from old when Roger came back to the team and he was far from bad. How is the situation completely different? You said it never happens and I and others gave you multiple examples of where it did.
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He don't have one. Roger was in Vietnam while Craig was taking snaps. Yes, he was drafted in 1964 but didn't join the Cowboys until 1969. In the end, both got their rings.
 
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Reverend Conehead said:
I have my doubts that Cooper Rush is our answer for backup QB. Makes me suspect it might be a good idea to draft or trade for another backup QB, someone whom we can win with if Dak goes down for something like 4 games. I still have nightmares over the 2015 season. I see Paxton Lynch has ended up on the Steelers' roster as a backup. He's who I originally wanted the team to draft in 2016. I had kind hoped the team would have claimed him off waivers when the Broncos released him.
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It's certainly not Paxton Lynch! But yes, looking for a more veteran backup would be a nice asset to have. Wouldn't mind Colt McCoy or Case Keenum as a backup. Don't know if Case is interested in being a backup but these two are Texans so maybe one could be pursuaded. Not sure about Colt's contract status either.
 
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