Video: Fox: Colin Cowherd: Dak Prescott is not a 'blank check guy'

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Seems like a lot of folks on this forum have said make him the highest paid QB its just market value
I don't consider highest - paid the same as blank check. If his contract just barely ekes past Russell Wilson' then that's one thing. I expect Mahomes to blow that out of the water by at least $5 million per year.
 

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Seems like a lot of folks on this forum have said make him the highest paid QB its just market value
I haven’t seen that from a lot of folks. They say the market would dictate a high price, but not the highest price.
 

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Not in his prime last year anymore .
Dak had much more talent around him than srtafford
seriously? they had to bring in amari cooper for him to have "talent" around him. even that is "iffy" as to how successful it was in year 2. injuries, playing hurt, lots of reasons but while those reasons may be valid they don't take the place of answering "is he a keeper".

i'd think talent would speak loudly saying YES.

gallup? love the dude and he broke out nicely and i think he's going to be a solid one for us for many years to come. been my 'pet cat' since the draft. but i'm not going to make him more than he is. put the 2 together you still don't have calvin johnson and we KNOW what he did.

as for "not in his prime last year" - doesn't matter and this is sideshow bob dancing in the streets. stafford came along 2 years after johnson and the 2 had an amazing run you just don't often see. it was aikman / irvin type stuff and i could go on about great duos. i'd put that on the list.

don't get me wrong. if we wound up with stafford somehow, i'd not cry. he always seems to find a way to beat us in the closing seconds and leave us nothing but cold turkey. he's likely to have some good years left but need to check his progress from last years injuries.

so sign me up to look at a stafford possibility. longshot but lets look. but please, don't give me our WR's can hold calvin johnsons jock strap just yet.
 

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mathew Stafford could be a trade the cowboys should consider . He is way better than Dak . Just look at Dak’s supporting cast : best OL , best Receiver , a top tier RB . Etc etc .
What did stafford have ?
I hate the idea of winning with a rented QB. Our history etc of winning with home grown QB's. That being said, Stafford on a 3 year deal would be interesting with the talent we have on offense.

It also gives us a couple seasons to find his replacement.
 

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I don't consider highest - paid the same as blank check. If his contract just barely ekes past Russell Wilson' then that's one thing. I expect Mahomes to blow that out of the water by at least $5 million per year.
Don't disagree that Mahomes will set the new bar .... but he does have the bonafides to do so.

As for our situation, my comment was based on ...
"Blank check" means that the person receiving the check can write in the amount they want. Right?

I'm working off these pieces of information.
It was pretty widely reported that he turned down something in the 33 - 33.5 per year on a long term deal.
Which would lead me to believe that he wants at least 35 or to set the market.
It is also pretty widely reported that he wants a shorter term deal so he can cash in again once the new revenue model is in place.
He also wants money upfront & guaranteed to make up for what he didn't earn on his rookie deal.

So, when people say "pay the man", "get the deal done" or "no matter what you pay him, it will look like a bargain in a few years" the only way that works with the conditions above is to just give him whatever he wants. ie, he fills in the $ amounts and length of the deal.
 

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I haven’t seen that from a lot of folks. They say the market would dictate a high price, but not the highest price.
"Blank check" means that the person receiving the check can write in the amount they want. Right?

I'm working off these pieces of information.
It was pretty widely reported that he turned down something in the 33 - 33.5 per year on a long term deal.
Which would lead me to believe that he wants at least 35 or to set the market.
It is also pretty widely reported that he wants a shorter term deal so he can cash in again once the new revenue model is in place.
He also wants money upfront & guaranteed to make up for what he didn't earn on his rookie deal.

So, when people say "pay the man", "get the deal done" or "no matter what you pay him, it will look like a bargain in a few years" the only way that works with the conditions above is to just give him whatever he wants. ie, he fills in the $ amounts and length of the deal which would have to be equal or greater than Wilson.
 

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"Blank check" means that the person receiving the check can write in the amount they want. Right?

I'm working off these pieces of information.
It was pretty widely reported that he turned down something in the 33 - 33.5 per year on a long term deal.
Which would lead me to believe that he wants at least 35 or to set the market.
It is also pretty widely reported that he wants a shorter term deal so he can cash in again once the new revenue model is in place.
He also wants money upfront & guaranteed to make up for what he didn't earn on his rookie deal.

So, when people say "pay the man", "get the deal done" or "no matter what you pay him, it will look like a bargain in a few years" the only way that works with the conditions above is to just give him whatever he wants. ie, he fills in the $ amounts and length of the deal which would have to be equal or greater than Wilson.

That being the definition of "blank check" doesn't mean that there are a lot of fans suggesting Dak should have a blank check.

As for what's been widely reported, I've seen reports than he turned down $30 MM, and that he wants $40 MM, and I don't count on any of it. Besides, whatever it is that Dak wants has nothing to do with what fans are asking for, so that really doesn't apply to my comment anyway.

As for people saying "pay the man", I don't think that automatically means they are in favor of a "blank check", but rather that they are of the opinion that the Cowboys are playing hardball and not willing to pay market value. In today's world that is probably somewhere between $33-35 MM. I doubt many fans would feel right about it being more than that.

As for the argument that it will be a bargain, realistically that's why the Rams and Eagles made a deal with their QB's a year ago even though they controlled their QB's through the 2020 season. Inflation is a real economic consideration for teams
 
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"Blank check" means that the person receiving the check can write in the amount they want. Right?

I'm working off these pieces of information.
It was pretty widely reported that he turned down something in the 33 - 33.5 per year on a long term deal.
Which would lead me to believe that he wants at least 35 or to set the market.
It is also pretty widely reported that he wants a shorter term deal so he can cash in again once the new revenue model is in place.
He also wants money upfront & guaranteed to make up for what he didn't earn on his rookie deal.

So, when people say "pay the man", "get the deal done" or "no matter what you pay him, it will look like a bargain in a few years" the only way that works with the conditions above is to just give him whatever he wants. ie, he fills in the $ amounts and length of the deal which would have to be equal or greater than Wilson.

From what I heard Dak would already have taken a deal similar to the what Wentz and Goff got but the sticking point was more about the length of the contract than the per year number. The Cowboys want him to sign a 7-year deal while Dak only wants a 4-year deal so he will get another bite at the apple sooner. Dak wants more than what Wentz and Goff got per year if the Cowboys want to lock him down for 7 years which is reasonable to me.
 

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I don't know why this is so hard for people. He's a great story, great guy, the kids love him, he's just not an end all franchise QB. If you pay a tier-3 QB franchise money, it's going to ruin you for at least a few years. I pray that we won't make the same mistake the Rams made with Goff, another tier-3 type of QB.
It really is that simple. Dak had arguably the best offensive cast in the league surrounding him and in the most important moments couldn’t come through. Sure he beat up the bad teams and had garbage time stats against the good teams but who cares about that?

Compare and contrast that with Mahomes who had nothing in the backfield and an OL that got whipped by the 49ers all day and look what he did when it mattered most? Dak is fine as a bargain. He’s a nice Honda Accord. He’ll get you to work and back and won’t break the bank. But you’re crazy if you pay a Ford GT price for a Honda Accord. And just because the Eagles and Rams were stupid enough to do it or because the cap will go up some day is not a good enough reason. If this team was knocking on the door with Dak, then maybe. But they are very far off right now.
 

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It really is that simple. Dak had arguably the best offensive cast in the league surrounding him and in the most important moments couldn’t come through. Sure he beat up the bad teams and had garbage time stats against the good teams but who cares about that?

Compare and contrast that with Mahomes who had nothing in the backfield and an OL that got whipped by the 49ers all day and look what he did when it mattered most? Dak is fine as a bargain. He’s a nice Honda Accord. He’ll get you to work and back and won’t break the bank. But you’re crazy if you pay a Ford GT price for a Honda Accord. And just because the Eagles and Rams were stupid enough to do it or because the cap will go up some day is not a good enough reason. If this team was knocking on the door with Dak, then maybe. But they are very far off right now.

I don't think they are far off. Competent coaching and special teams and this team at least replicates the season they had last year. I think they can compete for a Super Bowl if they keep the core together and have a good draft.
 

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IMHO, there isn’t a “blank check” player in the league. It’s all about what the market will bear at any given time.

What’s not helping the Dak/Cowboys impasse is that the motor-mouth Joneses repeatedly state publicly that they’re all-in on Dak, but then they can’t seem to get a deal done.

If you tell me I’m your now-and-future “franchise QB”, while demonstrating through lack of competition at my position that there’s no alternative on the horizon, then I’m gonna take you at your word and expect to be paid franchise-QB money. For Dak to do anything else would be crazy.

Jerry and Stephen: you lit the fire and you keep fanning the flames; pay the man or show him that you’re willing to move in another direction.
Mahommes would be closest thing to a blank check guy
 
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