06 draft = no o-lineman

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You guys want to rethink these now or later?

It is worth mentioning now I believe.

Carp= not yet b/c I think we needed good depth at LB
Fasano=Oline pick
Hatcher=Oline pick
Green=Oline pick

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sadams;1081321 said:
which fasano plays OG, C or OT for your team?

Well TE's split their time between the line and the skills guys at practice. They are blocking a large percentage of the time.
 

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sadams;1081321 said:
which fasano plays OG, C or OT for your team?

TE is an o-line position.

C, G, T, and TE are the O-line positions.

Any fan who knows anything will tell you that.
 

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sadams;1081309 said:
You guys want to rethink these now or later?

It is worth mentioning now I believe.

Carp= not yet b/c I think we needed good depth at LB
Fasano=Oline pick
Hatcher=Oline pick
Green=Oline pick

:nono2:

now you're just being mean. :) however, before going into the draft i was furious the best we could go in FA was kosier. we didn't even try for the "big ticket" names.

i was roasted pretty hard by many and now it's almost in vogue to see that we have OL problems and BP didn't do anything to address it. well, anything that had a solid chance of working anyway.

flo will be back - i heard. we'll be fine! it doesn't seem to matter to this "we'll be fine" crowd that flo has never and never will be an anchor on an OL yet, we *need* him back. well, we got him - anyone happy with his performance to date? average comes to mind, but certainly no "anchor" we need.

who else is out there??? i'd say we took a flyer all over the board in the draft *except* for a huge position of need in the OL.

to date the only bright spot in our OL is gurode played well enough to upset haynesworth, which is more than i thought would have happened but certainly not enough.

in all the line isn't doing "pathetic" but bledsoe sure is making it look that way. then again it would also help a lot of jjones could pick up a blitz every now and then.

in all, the OL "is what it is" - a patchwork of hope and no anchor to solidify it. we've seen what a "decent" team can do to it now and while i was slowly backing off after the 1st 3 weeks, we saw what we have yesterday and it ain't pretty.
 

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Wouldn't be playing now anyway. Just dumb.
By the way, we got the Hotels replacement already on the team in McQ.
And Proctor is apparently the guy that will replace Rivera. So what is the point of drafting any one high now?
Gurode has shown finally that he is a real center. Columbo is doing well and improving. Up till now Kosier was doing pretty good as well. One not so good game is no reason to give up on him. So frankly your whole thread is without logic.
 

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Fasano sure is playing like an O-lineman!

The guy's not even a factor in the passing game.

He had one pass thrown in his direction while in heavy coverage.

If that's all he was drafted for (which I don't think is the case), it was a poor draft choice.
 

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iceberg;1081345 said:
to date the only bright spot in our OL is gurode played well enough to upset haynesworth

Gurode hardly ever blocked Haynesworth. It was mostly Kosier on him.
 

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ice, as usual you seem to have a little trouble with the facts. Which are as follows: There was no one we could have gotten that had any chance of starting now. ALso, JJ and MB have done as good a job as any backs have at picking up blitzes- sure they are going to whiff now and then- who doesn't?But then that would not fit into your agenda would it? Sorry to spoilt it with a few facts.
 

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burmafrd;1081347 said:
Wouldn't be playing now anyway. Just dumb.
By the way, we got the Hotels replacement already on the team in McQ.
And Proctor is apparently the guy that will replace Rivera. So what is the point of drafting any one high now?
Gurode has shown finally that he is a real center. Columbo is doing well and improving. Up till now Kosier was doing pretty good as well. One not so good game is no reason to give up on him. So frankly your whole thread is without logic.

great, so a 6th round draft pick who looks like he played too much 'deliverance' as a kid in the mountains is going to replace flo. 1st of all that's not proven, just speculation in as much as henson is gonna replace "vet to be named later" any minute now. let's let it happen before we haul off and do the happy dance.

2nd - people refusing to put quality into the line either via draft OR FA will continue to see patchwork results like we have now. if we had a more mobile qb this would have *some* merit. but we don't and Bp isn't gonna change that. he knew his boys limitations long ago and didn't do enough to protect him. see yesterdays HOLY HELL look on his face the whole game as a point of reference.

our OL sucks. you can LA LA LA it away all you want but it still sucks.
 

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Keep blaming the Oline.

Or you could try watching the game.

Hint: 7 sacks does not automatically = bad Oline play.

Although, it will give those with an axe to grind about the Oline venue to complain, like they knew this was coming. Because 3 sacks in 3 games combined with one of the league's best running games was certainly giving them no ammo up to this point.
 

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AdamJT13;1081355 said:
Gurode hardly ever blocked Haynesworth. It was mostly Kosier on him.

great, so my warm fuzzy got redirected into the abyss.
 

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burmafrd;1081347 said:
Wouldn't be playing now anyway. Just dumb.
By the way, we got the Hotels replacement already on the team in McQ.
And Proctor is apparently the guy that will replace Rivera. So what is the point of drafting any one high now?
Gurode has shown finally that he is a real center. Columbo is doing well and improving. Up till now Kosier was doing pretty good as well. One not so good game is no reason to give up on him. So frankly your whole thread is without logic.
The only logic is 3 of our first 4 picks are useless and our line sucks. Maybe one or 3 of those picks could have been a lineman. At least the hole between TO and TG would have been addressed.
 

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superpunk;1081365 said:
Keep blaming the Oline.

Or you could try watching the game.

Hint: 7 sacks does not automatically = bad Oline play.

Although, it will give those with an axe to grind about the Oline venue to complain, like they knew this was coming. Because 3 sacks in 3 games combined with one of the league's best running games was certainly giving them no ammo up to this point.

you miss my ragging on jjones for missing the blitz quite frequently?

the line had done better than i thought they would to date, but we've still got 12 games to go and the 1 good team that came through here to date didn't even stop to tell them hello yeterday - they went straight for drew.
 

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burmafrd;1081360 said:
ice, as usual you seem to have a little trouble with the facts. Which are as follows: There was no one we could have gotten that had any chance of starting now. ALso, JJ and MB have done as good a job as any backs have at picking up blitzes- sure they are going to whiff now and then- who doesn't?But then that would not fit into your agenda would it? Sorry to spoilt it with a few facts.

bum - as usual you see your POV and the rest is crap.

JJ did a good job of picking up the blitz? now that i missed.

if i were to subscribe to your world of thought then mired in average would be ok to me. i don't - so the mired in average sucks.

i'm sorry i expect more than you do - but keep your agenda crap to yourself.
 

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superpunk;1081365 said:
Keep blaming the Oline.

Or you could try watching the game.

Hint: 7 sacks does not automatically = bad Oline play.

Although, it will give those with an axe to grind about the Oline venue to complain, like they knew this was coming. Because 3 sacks in 3 games combined with one of the league's best running games was certainly giving them no ammo up to this point.
And having a statue behind a crappy line doesn't help either. At least if Mcnabb's protection brekas down he can take one step and deliver.

So can Peyton, Eli, Leftwich, Leinart, Brees, Rivers, Palmer

do I need to continue?
 

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sadams;1081381 said:
And having a statue behind a crappy line doesn't help either. At least if Mcnabb's protection brekas down he can take one step and deliver.

So can Peyton, Eli, Leftwich, Leinart, Brees, Rivers, Palmer

do I need to continue?

the simple fact is we don't have a line good enough for BLEDSOE to play behind. i'm not sure ANYONE does or could at this point. when he's off, he's off and you're not going to fix that for the day.

now could this line do better w/another qb? i'd sure like to think so cause bledsoe will never get us anywhere with the line the coaches have put together so far.
 

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iceberg;1081374 said:
you miss my ragging on jjones for missing the blitz quite frequently?

the line had done better than i thought they would to date, but we've still got 12 games to go and the 1 good team that came through here to date didn't even stop to tell them hello yeterday - they went straight for drew.

I made my post without seeing any of yours in the thread, so no, I didn't miss it, nor was I talking about you specifically.
 

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superpunk;1081386 said:
I made my post without seeing any of yours in the thread, so no, I didn't miss it, nor was I talking about you specifically.

my bad then. : )
 
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