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Breakdowns and mental errors lead to poor production in every NFL city in the league. But it wasn't just missed assignments. We saw plenty of errant throws to open receivers, too.

Execution does go to the coaches, of course. If you're going to take that position, though, you need to take it in the context where this offense has outproduced most offenses in the league during Garrett's time here. The bigger issues have been on the other side of the ball. As for Sunday, yep, the execution was bad. It's one game, with 3 new WRs, 2 new TEs, and two new interior OLs taking snaps in week one against a really good DL. That's not an excuse, because CAR was also playing their first game, but it ought to buy at least a little bit of time for things to gel a little bit. Maybe it's the case that they looked horrible because they're coming up to speed and not that they looked horrible because they suck irredeemably.

But it seems the great teams are able to either: A.) have less breakdowns and mental errors or B.) know how to successfully react to those errors. The night and day difference between the Rams in 2016 vs. 2017 wasn't that the players just randomly decided to start executing better. It started with the coaching staff.

Your second point is valid - there are several new faces, and they need time. But on the other hand, this new personnel didn't just randomly fall out of the sky. These are the guys Garrett/Linehan/Jones/whoever else brought in. This is who they wanted. Decisions were made, players were cut, others were drafted, to end up at this point. And we had an entire offseason and preseason (which some would argue wasn't used to its fullest extent) to help these guys gel. The regular season isn't the place for on-the-job training.
 

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Who's whining? You didn't tell anyone **** other than a bunch of nonsense. You have been swinging from Dak's nut sack and it's not working out so well now.
When you revert to pornographic insults, yes, the truth hurts much. Whine away.
 

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This was the single most important play that could have changed the game. Dak should be forced to watch this every single day this season . Even if he gets better, this should not be forgotten.
We've ingested a lot since the loss on Sunday from every pundit and analyst there is, but this could have changed the entire game.


He could watch this til he's a corpse. HE just can't pull that pass off, among many other passes...
What the happened in '16 that made people truly believe in him? The team winning? I missed it and all I've seen is crap throwing from a QB since I've been able to watch him.
 

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Yes. And defenses back then had no limits as far as cap and teams could stack them. Good QB or not, you go up against some of those defenses and you're eating turf all game. The 2013 Seahawks don't come around too often. But even if I agree that my example was poor, it doesn't take away from my other two points.
The point is this, Romo was a JAG in an era where passing was set up for the QB. Can't hit the QB, can't hit the receiver, spread offenses, shot gun, hurry up offenses. A JAG who couldn't take us to the dance. Time for new blood, new high #1 draft pick QB who can take us home.
 

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The point is this, Romo was a JAG in an era where passing was set up for the QB. Can't hit the QB, can't hit the receiver, spread offenses, shot gun, hurry up offenses. A JAG who couldn't take us to the dance. Time for new blood, new high #1 draft pick QB who can take us home.

It's really none of that but amounts to the same. It's an era where defenses are watered down due to salary cap. That's the main reason the passing game has hit its peak. The 2013 season was proof of that. Manning beat up on averages defenses all year breaking all kinds of records until he got his nutsack stapled to his forehead in the super bowl.
 

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It's really none of that but amounts to the same. It's an era where defenses are watered down due to salary cap. That's the main reason the passing game has hit its peak. The 2013 season was proof of that. Manning beat up on averages defenses all year breaking all kinds of records until he got his nutsack stapled to his forehead in the super bowl.
You're proving my point. He's playing against watered down defenses whereas, those guys you mentioned played against the best of the best and still put up numbers. Time for change next season.
 

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But it seems the great teams are able to either: A.) have less breakdowns and mental errors or B.) know how to successfully react to those errors. The night and day difference between the Rams in 2016 vs. 2017 wasn't that the players just randomly decided to start executing better. It started with the coaching staff.

Your second point is valid - there are several new faces, and they need time. But on the other hand, this new personnel didn't just randomly fall out of the sky. These are the guys Garrett/Linehan/Jones/whoever else brought in. This is who they wanted. Decisions were made, players were cut, others were drafted, to end up at this point. And we had an entire offseason and preseason (which some would argue wasn't used to its fullest extent) to help these guys gel. The regular season isn't the place for on-the-job training.

Good point. There definitely are examples of situations where coaching changes and the personnel stays the same. I'd say in the Rams case, they didn't just change coaches, though, they brought in McVay and Phillips and changed both the offense and the defensive schemes. But then, they went from 32nd in the league in points/series to 3rd. Obviously, some of that is more than scheme.

In the Cowboys case, though, we do have a track record of production with the scheme and, more or less, the personnel. What we've been going through the end of this year and again this week looks to have more to do with the QB and with the protection to me. That's what seems to have changed during that time.
 

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Look at his footwork. Atrocious.
after three years. yes. and its not just the foot work. his release angle and release point is also very inconsistent, which leads to low throws. high throws. even when he sets, you watch him throw and you get inconsistency.....that's why he doesn't trust himself with making the tight throws...
 

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Who cares. Preseason is hardly an excuse for missing a wide open throw.

Spot on. And no amount of coaching can equip an individual to make that throw. Any QB misses the occasional throw and most have an occasional bad game. The pressure is on Dak to earn the job he has this year.
 

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When you see fans/media cite footwork, it normally means they have no clue but want to sound smart. It's actually somewhat of an inside joke with sports media. One of the local sports talk stations did a segment on it once.

The segment also made fun of other words and quotes that people in sports say and what they really mean.
:cool:
 

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after three years. yes. and its not just the foot work. his release angle and release point is also very inconsistent, which leads to low throws. high throws. even when he sets, you watch him throw and you get inconsistency.....that's why he doesn't trust himself with making the tight throws...
Played in a charity golf tournament this summer with Lincoln Riley. At the reception he talked about how footwork for a QB was nuanced. Meaning most people know it’s critical to a QBs success but they don’t know why. It’s not about stepping into throws or weight shift, it’s about alignment and most importantly pressure. Your feet are either working with you, or working against you. Everything in throwing in any sport is a ground up concept. Dak doesn’t use the ground properly. It’s why as a mobile QB he struggles with throwing on the run even though conventional wisdom says that should be a strength.
 

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It is ironic that folks are opinionated on a QB’s mechanics on one hand and muted on the staff that was hired to critique the mechanics aka QB coach, Coordinator, head coach that played in the NFL as a QB. Dak is the best QB on this roster so consider him a blessing if you didn’t watch our other QB’s play this preseason. I don’t care who the QB is or will be for this team they will not be put in the best position under this staff.
 

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When you see fans/media cite footwork, it normally means they have no clue but want to sound smart. It's actually somewhat of an inside joke with sports media. One of the local sports talk stations did a segment on it once.

The segment also made fun of other words and quotes that people in sports say and what they really mean.
Are you implying that Daks footwork on this play wasn't terrible?
 

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After reading through this whole thread, the main thing I learned is that we can write nut sack and not have it filtered out by this site.

That’s great!

Nut sack, nut sack, nut sack.
 

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Played in a charity golf tournament this summer with Lincoln Riley. At the reception he talked about how footwork for a QB was nuanced. Meaning most people know it’s critical to a QBs success but they don’t know why. It’s not about stepping into throws or weight shift, it’s about alignment and most importantly pressure. Your feet are either working with you, or working against you. Everything in throwing in any sport is a ground up concept. Dak doesn’t use the ground properly. It’s why as a mobile QB he struggles with throwing on the run even though conventional wisdom says that should be a strength.
a football throw is not much different than a golf swing...saaayyy wwwhhhaaat!?...well as you said, it start from the feet, and how you rotate around the axis, release point, etc. to get consistency and power. in football when you don't set your feet, then its all from the arm and shoulder and given if your feet aren't set, then your body position is inconsistent and thus you are relying on your arm to be at the right angle and release the ball when necessary to get the throw where it needs to go....plus a lot of power comes from the leg when a QB rotate around the axis and turn their hip..... a lot of throws Dak missed in the game and some throws he made, you could tell there is no consistency in his throwing motion, its low, its high, its late, its inaccurate, ...that's disappointing for a QB in his 3rd year, specially that this was his problem in his first year.
 
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