100 greatest NFL Players, Troy Aikman #80

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was just on zoners, maybe theebs or dc can post podcast for you

from nfl network
 
Troy didn't throw the ball a lot... He'd be higher if he was in a west coast offense throughout his career.
 
heads up alert another cowboy player is fixing to be # 77 on nfl network 100 greatest nfl players
 
I love Tony Dorsett but he should not be a head of Troy Aikman. Aikman is so much better then he gets credit for.
 
Doomsday;3563244 said:
I love Tony Dorsett but he should not be a head of Troy Aikman. Aikman is so much better then he gets credit for.

and no cowboys except for Smith and Staubach really deserve to be above Larry Allen.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3563305 said:
and no cowboys except for Smith and Staubach really deserve to be above Larry Allen.

Lilly and White ring a bell?

Renfro?

Hayes?

:rolleyes:
 
blindzebra;3563309 said:
Lilly and White ring a bell?

Renfro?

Hayes?

:rolleyes:

best o-linemen of all time ring a bell? :rolleyes:\


and hayes wth hes not in the same discussion as any of those players. hes way down
 
Romo 2 Austin;3563311 said:
best o-linemen of all time ring a bell? :rolleyes:\


and hayes wth hes not in the same discussion as any of those players. hes way down

Kinda like your football IQ.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3563315 said:
Your the one putting bob hayes in a discussion with Larry Allen.

Have you heard of zone coverage?

You know why it became part of defensive calls in the NFL?

Oh and it is you are or you're there skippy.
 
blindzebra;3563318 said:
Have you heard of zone coverage?

You know why it became part of defensive calls in the NFL?

Oh and it is you are or you're there skippy.

I can't believe that the children today don't have any idea just what an impact Bob Hayes had on the game. (Some may have heard me say this before) He singlehandedly changed the way defense is played in the NFL because NO ONE could cover him one-on-one. He belongs in ANY discussion of all time great football players.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3563315 said:
Your the one putting bob hayes in a discussion with Larry Allen.

Don't waste your time, R2A. He has one way of thinking and that is old school style. BZ doesn't grasp the concept of deconstructionism. So why even present him with a deconstructionist argument?
 
Romo 2 Austin;3563315 said:
Your the one putting Bob Hayes in a discussion with Larry Allen.
Larry Allen was a great player. One of the most awesome physical specimens to ever play the game. But he did not have the impact on the game that Bob Hayes had. No momentous changes were ever made to stop what he did.

But such changes WERE made to stop Bob Hayes. He introduced the NFL to a dimension of speed that they had never seen before. And he wasn't just a really fast guy who decided to play football...He was a football player who happened to have world class speed and he was the first of his kind in the NFL.

Brag on the players that you actually remember seeing play all you want. But don't discount the greats of the past just because you are too young to even remember them.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3563305 said:
and no cowboys except for Smith and Staubach really deserve to be above Larry Allen.

blindzebra;3563309 said:
Lilly and White ring a bell?

Renfro?

Hayes?

:rolleyes:


blindzebra;3563318 said:
Have you heard of zone coverage?

You know why it became part of defensive calls in the NFL?

Oh and it is you are or you're there skippy.

I can go with Lilly and White being ahead of Allen, although I would put Allen in the neighborhood of White. Not Renfro and Hayes though.

As for Hayes, your argument about teams having to create zone defenses to stop him is valid, but in the end you have to recognize that Hayes was not a great WR. He was just fast.
 
ThreeSportStar80;3563226 said:
Troy didn't throw the ball a lot... He'd be higher if he was in a west coast offense throughout his career.

But instead, he has 3 super bowl rings.

Back in 1995 we have a 50-50 split run pass ratio and we were unstoppable.

The reason Troy was so good was because of play action pass. Run to setup the pass.

To think Garrett saw all of this but can't seem to remember the success.

I'll bet you Romo would give up all of his Cowboys passing records for a ring.
 
He deserves to be much higher... His accuracy was ridiculous and in the play-offs he was so precise it was unbelievable. The guy put it where only his receiver could get it. He was a leader and a winner...
 

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