105.3 the fan: Do teams really want Pickens?

[Coogiguy03]

 

[Reality]

I think teams want him just not with both the salary he wants and the draft picks the Cowboys would want in return, at least not right now.

Being this close to the draft the the smart strategy for even any teams interested would be to wait until after the draft.

That way they can see what they have after the draft and if they have more pressing areas or if they still need help at receiver.

If so, they would then end up trading draft pick(s) in the 2027 draft where if they traded with the Cowboys now the Cowboys would almost surely require at least one high 2026 pick in the deal.

I think right now it's a holding pattern for both sides and other teams.

 

[jazzcat22]

I think teams want him just not with both the salary he wants and the draft picks the Cowboys would want in return, at least not right now.

Being this close to the draft the the smart strategy for even any teams interested would be to wait until after the draft.

That way they can see what they have after the draft and if they have more pressing areas or if they still need help at receiver.

If so, they would then end up trading draft pick(s) in the 2027 draft where if they traded with the Cowboys now the Cowboys would almost surely require at least one high 2026 pick in the deal.

I think right now it's a holding pattern for both sides and other teams.

Yes, this is the most likely and logical strategy from other teams.
If any teams were interested, we would have heard some buzz about it. Even if speculation from those teams local media outlets.
We have no heard any buzz from the local Dallas media.

 

[Reid1boys]

I think teams want him just not with both the salary he wants and the draft picks the Cowboys would want in return, at least not right now.

Being this close to the draft the the smart strategy for even any teams interested would be to wait until after the draft.

That way they can see what they have after the draft and if they have more pressing areas or if they still need help at receiver.

If so, they would then end up trading draft pick(s) in the 2027 draft where if they traded with the Cowboys now the Cowboys would almost surely require at least one high 2026 pick in the deal.

I think right now it's a holding pattern for both sides and other teams.

but isnt it just Jerry being stupid? Isnt this all because Jerry isnt proactive and he just likes to wait? Are you saying their are other factors that is causing the situation to play out a bit?

 

[Reality]

but isnt it just Jerry being stupid? Isnt this all because Jerry isnt proactive and he just likes to wait? Are you saying their are other factors that is causing the situation to play out a bit?

They have until July 15th to make a deal or trade Pickens so the Cowboys (like most teams) will sit back and wait to see what options (if any) arise over time.

As I pointed out in my other long post in my thread on Pickens, the huge salary cap increases in the last couple of years have given all the leverage to the Cowboys so right now, it's cheaper and less risky for them to have Pickens play on the franchise tag than offer him a new contract.

If I were the Cowboys, I would do the same thing they're doing and that is not about siding with them (who I regularly criticize) or against Pickens and his agent (as I believe players should always strive to get as much money as they can because their careers can end at any time).

That's simply the smartest decision right now for the Cowboys to make given all of the factors at play.

 

[John813]

I think teams want him just not with both the salary he wants and the draft picks the Cowboys would want in return, at least not right now.

Being this close to the draft the the smart strategy for even any teams interested would be to wait until after the draft.

That way they can see what they have after the draft and if they have more pressing areas or if they still need help at receiver.

If so, they would then end up trading draft pick(s) in the 2027 draft where if they traded with the Cowboys now the Cowboys would almost surely require at least one high 2026 pick in the deal.

I think right now it's a holding pattern for both sides and other teams.

Agreed. Unless someone really blinks on the Cowboys side, Pickens camp or another team, I would think most teams now are just focusing on the draft.
After the draft, if a team misses out on a receiver or had the ideal draft and now need a proven receiver, well then, maybe there's some calls. But that being said, with the Franchise tag, even non exclusive, it's not like teams are dying to offer anything serious now for a wide receiver that has had some maturity issues.

 

[fivetwos]

I was surprised with a recent thread around in which so many people actually thought a team would give up multiple premium picks AND sign him to the money he wants right away…..because he is better than Waddle.

The contract situation MATTERS. It isn’t fair to the players that are indeed tagged, but this is the deal that the union agreed to. It can be eliminated in the next round of CBA talks if they so wish, and they can give in elsewhere. If not, then this is the rule, and while I don’t agree with operating this way for a few reasons, Dallas is taking advantage. They may even do it twice.

From Pickens point of view, he shouldn’t complain. He can play two years on the tag, make 60 million, then hit free agency at age 27 when salaries for top WR are easily into the 40s per. He just needs to not get hurt. The numbers will be there with Prescott.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I think teams want him just not with both the salary he wants and the draft picks the Cowboys would want in return, at least not right now.

Being this close to the draft the the smart strategy for even any teams interested would be to wait until after the draft.

That way they can see what they have after the draft and if they have more pressing areas or if they still need help at receiver.

If so, they would then end up trading draft pick(s) in the 2027 draft where if they traded with the Cowboys now the Cowboys would almost surely require at least one high 2026 pick in the deal.

I think right now it's a holding pattern for both sides and other teams.

you're right but I just think the whole thing is to get more picks to use for the draft in the current year. I heard there was complaints about the Micah trade and not getting picks for the current year but for the next season. We shall see what happens

Yes, this is the most likely and logical strategy from other teams.
If any teams were interested, we would have heard some buzz about it. Even if speculation from those teams local media outlets.
We have no heard any buzz from the local Dallas media.

That's my thing, you've heard 0 about this!!!!!!!! Usually you get some drops of news, but this one, nope!!!! Let me ask you this, if he was better "behaved" or whatever you want to call hanging over his head, would their be more attention/want for him??

I was surprised with a recent thread around in which so many people actually thought a team would give up multiple premium picks AND sign him to the money he wants right away…..because he is better than Waddle.

The contract situation MATTERS. It isn’t fair to the players that are indeed tagged, but this is the deal that the union agreed to. It can be eliminated in the next round of CBA talks if they so wish, and they can give in elsewhere. If not, then this is the rule, and while I don’t agree with operating this way for a few reasons, Dallas is taking advantage. They may even do it twice.

From Pickens point of view, he shouldn’t complain. He can play two years on the tag, make 60 million, then hit free agency at age 27 when salaries for top WR are easily into the 40s per. He just needs to not get hurt. The numbers will be there with Prescott.

When I heard on here that because you're "supposed" to get 2 first round picks, but that you can basically accept whatever you want to accept for example we could accept a 1st and a 2nd next year and be fine

 

[Reality]

I was surprised with a recent thread around in which so many people actually thought a team would give up multiple premium picks AND sign him to the money he wants right away…..because he is better than Waddle.

The contract situation MATTERS. It isn’t fair to the players that are indeed tagged, but this is the deal that the union agreed to. It can be eliminated in the next round of CBA talks if they so wish, and they can give in elsewhere. If not, then this is the rule, and while I don’t agree with operating this way for a few reasons, Dallas is taking advantage. They may even do it twice.

From Pickens point of view, he shouldn’t complain. He can play two years on the tag, make 60 million, then hit free agency at age 27 when salaries for top WR are easily into the 40s per. He just needs to not get hurt. The numbers will be there with Prescott.

I don't see him holding out this year, at least not out of games.

He may posture some by holding out of OTAs and part of training camp, but he's going to make a lot more money this year than he did last season and it's guaranteed once he signs the franchise tag contract.

The best move for him is to play this year on the franchise tag (assuming no contract or trade happens), repeat last year's performance and reliability with no issues and then leverage that to an even better contract in 2027 with the Cowboys or another team.

While I think he will play this year without a hold-out, I would be shocked if he didn't hold out in 2027 if the Cowboys franchise tag him again.

 

[speedkilz88]

I think teams want him just not with both the salary he wants and the draft picks the Cowboys would want in return, at least not right now.

Being this close to the draft the the smart strategy for even any teams interested would be to wait until after the draft.

That way they can see what they have after the draft and if they have more pressing areas or if they still need help at receiver.

If so, they would then end up trading draft pick(s) in the 2027 draft where if they traded with the Cowboys now the Cowboys would almost surely require at least one high 2026 pick in the deal.

I think right now it's a holding pattern for both sides and other teams.

Did you listen to it? I heard it on the radio and Broaddus claims that his friends from other teams have told him that nobody wants to invest anywhere near $40 million in Pickens. They don't see him up their with JSN and they don't trust him.

 

[gtb1943]

when pickens came here he was pretty much only a lot of potential with character issues

he then went out and had a near ALL Pro season and mostly showed good character.

If he is able to do it again, he can then get a mega contract. This might be his long term plan.

 

[Hoofbite]

I was surprised with a recent thread around in which so many people actually thought a team would give up multiple premium picks AND sign him to the money he wants right away…..because he is better than Waddle.

The contract situation MATTERS. It isn’t fair to the players that are indeed tagged, but this is the deal that the union agreed to. It can be eliminated in the next round of CBA talks if they so wish, and they can give in elsewhere. If not, then this is the rule, and while I don’t agree with operating this way for a few reasons, Dallas is taking advantage. They may even do it twice.

From Pickens point of view, he shouldn’t complain. He can play two years on the tag, make 60 million, then hit free agency at age 27 when salaries for top WR are easily into the 40s per. He just needs to not get hurt. The numbers will be there with Prescott.

They could work out a trade and meet in the middle. The tag has many paths it can go down.

 

[LouBrown]

Not for two first-round picks they don't.

They're not interested in him near $40m if it costs two firsts. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested at that number as a UFA.

 

[DarkVader33]

when pickens came here he was pretty much only a lot of potential with character issues

he then went out and had a near ALL Pro season and mostly showed good character.

If he is able to do it again, he can then get a mega contract. This might be his long term plan.

It may explain why he was excited to get tagged, if what Jerry said is true.

 

[fivetwos]

I don't see him holding out this year, at least not out of games.

He may posture some by holding out of OTAs and part of training camp, but he's going to make a lot more money this year than he did last season and it's guaranteed once he signs the franchise tag contract.

The best move for him is to play this year on the franchise tag (assuming no contract or trade happens), repeat last year's performance and reliability with no issues and then leverage that to an even better contract in 2027 with the Cowboys or another team.

While I think he will play this year without a hold-out, I would be shocked if he didn't hold out in 2027 if the Cowboys franchise tag him again.

Yep. Crossed my mind as to how he might react, but would have been too long of a post. Agree with you though. I’d expect no big deal this year, but may not like it again in 2027, despite the 20% raise. He does have the advantage of being young, so even two tags may work out even better in the long run, but he would need to continue to not get hurt and put up numbers for it to work out that way. What we are expecting is a fair result of it gets that far.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Did you listen to it? I heard it on the radio and Broaddus claims that his friends from other teams have told him that nobody wants to invest anywhere near $40 million in Pickens. They don't see him up their with JSN and they don't trust him.

Agree, with his history at the stealers, don’t see anyone willing to pay him more than CD is making and know $40M is out of the question.

 

[slick325]

Not for two first-round picks they don't.

They're not interested in him near $40m if it costs two firsts. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested at that number as a UFA.

This!

 

[rambo2]

Why would anybody trade 2 1st round picks and pay him over 35 million a season? You can draft a receiver in the 1st round and pay him on a rookie contract. The Cowboys made a quick decision to keep him for a year on the tag.

 

[LouBrown]

when pickens came here he was pretty much only a lot of potential with character issues

he then went out and had a near ALL Pro season and mostly showed good character.

If he is able to do it again, he can then get a mega contract. This might be his long term plan.

Which is part of why Dallas should just give him a contract now. That allows them to:

A) Reduce his cap hit significantly this year.
B) Avoid having to give a much larger contract next year, when Pickens has even more leverage.

Using round numbers, paying him $40m now might be a bit of an overpay, but it's better than paying him $45 or $47 after next year.

 

[jazzcat22]

That's my thing, you've heard 0 about this!!!!!!!! Usually you get some drops of news, but this one, nope!!!! Let me ask you this, if he was better "behaved" or whatever you want to call hanging over his head, would their be more attention/want for him??

Better behaved?
Where and when was he an issue here.
Except for some fans usual dislike perspectives.