12-20 Mock Partial Offseason

[darthseinfeld]

As far as resigning players
-Im letting McClain go
-Cutting Carr
- Im see what the market is for Hardy before deciding on him
- Im hoping I can bring back Claiborne on a 1 year deal. Ill bring him back on a 1 year deal, or a 2-3 year deal incentive heavy deal.

In FA im signing

-Eric Weddell. Very good safety. At 30 could be reasonably priced ( but not cheap) and would give us a vet presence in the secondary.

-Alfred Morris. A zone HB who has had a good amount of success in the NFL. Had a really dow year this year, but I believe he would be an effective back here.

- Ian Williams. A 1 Tech is never going to be more then a rotational player here. Which makes for difficult task in finding a good one because its hard to justify high draft picks or big FA $ in the position in a starter thats going to be in in 30% of snaps. However our run defense has really struggled at times this year and the 1 Tech position has been the downfall of an otherwise strong DL. Ian Williams to me is a happy middle ground. He is a starter quality player, and has been a very stout run defender through his career.

Draft

1: Jalen Ramsey, FS, FSU

Dallas finally gets a starting calibler FS after all these year and Ramsey is the type of talent that can go a long way to transforming the secondary day 1. Him and Weddell would make a very effective duo.

1B ( pick 28-32 via trade up for 4th round pick)
Carson Wentz, QB NDS

Im following Minnesota's example from 2014 with what I thought was a very shrewd moved trading back in to the late first from the early 2nd to secure they're QB with a 5th year option. The trade up cost them a 4th rounder. Wentz has as much upside as any QB in the draft, but isnt as game ready as Lynch or Goff.

3: Alex Collins, HB Arkansas.

2016 will be a complete departure from what we did at the HB position in 2015. Both Morris and Collins are viable starting HB's and McFadden should still be in tow. Collins represents our future at the position and could possibly beat out both in TC for a starting job

4: Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina

Cooper is a good, extremely quick inside/outside WR that can both the slot position and outside WR position. Great YAC guy, he is a guy that could force teams to cover him in multiple WR sets. I think as a rookie he could even push Williams

 

[RandyOh]

I don't know about signing a RB (especially one who is a 2 time pro bowler) then using a premium pick on one. I can see us signing a player like Morris, resigning Turbin and Dunbar to go along with McFadden, then going thru a handful of UDFA's to figure out who will be apart of our 3 man rotation at the start of the season.

I have little knowledge about trading in the draft but i would think it would take more then a 2nd and 4th to move back into 1st. But like i said i really don't know so if that's all it takes then yes please for Wentz.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I don't know about signing a RB (especially one who is a 2 time pro bowler) then using a premium pick on one. I can see us signing a player like Morris, resigning Turbin and Dunbar to go along with McFadden, then going thru a handful of UDFA's to figure out who will be apart of our 3 man rotation at the start of the season.

I have little knowledge about trading in the draft but i would think it would take more then a 2nd and 4th to move back into 1st. But like i said i really don't know so if that's all it takes then yes please for Wentz.

Its a similar trade that the Vikings used in 2014 to move back into the first to pick Bridgewater and it cost them a 4th

 

[Tobal]

So you are moving Jones to CB full time? to me he is a safety, I don't mind taking Ramsey because we need two safeties. I don't like cutting Carr and signing Weddle without getting a solid dependable CB in his place. Claiborne while better is still an injury waiting to happen and Scandrick is coming off knee surgery, that's too much of a gamble for me.

I keep Claiborne if he's reasonable and let him, Carr and Oscan compete. Jones and Ramsey on the back end and use church and a nickel backer. I'd trade Wilcox for some cheese spread.

 

[Tobal]

I know little about Wentz and Collins, although I watched a few Arkansas games. I do think we need to add a good WR.

 

[RandyOh]

Its a similar trade that the Vikings used in 2014 to move back into the first to pick Bridgewater and it cost them a 4th

Oh really? Then hell yes to that trade

 

[darthseinfeld]

So you are moving Jones to CB full time? to me he is a safety, I don't mind taking Ramsey because we need two safeties. I don't like cutting Carr and signing Weddle without getting a solid dependable CB in his place. Claiborne while better is still an injury waiting to happen and Scandrick is coming off knee surgery, that's too much of a gamble for me.

I keep Claiborne if he's reasonable and let him, Carr and Oscan compete. Jones and Ramsey on the back end and use church and a nickel backer. I'd trade Wilcox for some cheese spread.

I think Jones is more of a CB then he is a Safety. He has been someone checkered at CB this year but people forget that CB is a harder position to master in the NFL then Safety. Rookie CB's struggle much worse then Jones has, his play at CB hasnt been anywhere near bad. Jones has all the characteristics of a shut down CB and he is growing as a CB. Wouldnt shock me one bit if he is our #1 CB next year and plays very well. He has the length, intelligence, athleticism and demeanor of a top CB. He just needs to grow into it, and he will. At top CB is far more crucial then a top Safety

 

[darthseinfeld]

So you are moving Jones to CB full time? to me he is a safety, I don't mind taking Ramsey because we need two safeties. I don't like cutting Carr and signing Weddle without getting a solid dependable CB in his place. Claiborne while better is still an injury waiting to happen and Scandrick is coming off knee surgery, that's too much of a gamble for me.

I keep Claiborne if he's reasonable and let him, Carr and Oscan compete. Jones and Ramsey on the back end and use church and a nickel backer. I'd trade Wilcox for some cheese spread.

If we keep Jones at FS Im passing on Ramsey for Hargreaves. No need for another FS if we are keeping Jones at FS

 

[darthseinfeld]

I know little about Wentz and Collins, although I watched a few Arkansas games. I do think we need to add a good WR.

I think Cooper is a great fit for us. He has the ability to play both inside and outside. I think he is more a slot WR then an outside WR, but with Bryant on the other side I think Cooper could feast as an outside WR

Reminds me a bit of Golden Tate. Quicker, but not as strong

 

[sbark]

In some ways Wentz is more "game ready"---he comes from a hybrid WCO where he is under center a lot and has been forced to read defenses and progress thru his receivers......................vrs Goff and Lynch who have seen FBS level compettion, but have been in spread offense's for 4 years not being forced to read and progress thru a defense. We tried that with the kid from West texas, he apparently never did advance.

Then I sit and watch a ESPN talking head after he watched the UNI/NDSU quarterfinal game and was gushing about the level of athletism he saw on the field that day, yes the FBS might have higher highs in particular players, but there are guys like the Jets Marcus Williams (NDSU cb) who will test QB's at the FCS level every game also,

 

[texbumthelife]

If we sign Weddle we will regret it immensely. He has not looked great this year and he's not getting any younger. He is going to want a huge contract though. I liken us signing him to how much we paid and regret Carr.

Alfred Morris is done. No.

I am ok with letting McClain go and cutting Carr, but you better address those positions in the draft or FA.

I like the trade up for Wentz and I love the Collins pick. I also want Jones at corner and think Ramsey would be tremendous here.

 

[AzorAhai]

I'm not really sold on Morris or Weddle. Could probably get Berry and Miller for only a few million difference on cap hits. With that said, I love the draft portion of this. I would be very happy if these were the players picked.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I'm not really sold on Morris or Weddle. Could probably get Berry and Miller for only a few million difference on cap hits. With that said, I love the draft portion of this. I would be very happy if these were the players picked.

I dont think Berry is going to see the open market. I think Morris will be very cheap. And probably a 1 year deal. He doesnt have much of a market coming off a bad year, but he is a better back then he has been this year. Since we run both Man and ZB schemes, he is the Bizzaro McFadden in that he is a pure zone HB. I think those three make a formidable 3 headed HB with Collins becoming the horse at some point in the season. Maybe even week 1

 

[Killerinstinct]

I also don't believe Berry will see the open market. I think our best shot to address the secondary in FA is at CB.

 

[texbumthelife]

The Kansas City fan base would absolutely riot if KC let Berry go. They rallied behind that kid while he was sick and absolutely love him. Not a snowball's chance in hell he hits the market. I am not even sure he would want to go anywhere else with how the fans have treated him there.

 

[AzorAhai]

I dont think Berry is going to see the open market. I think Morris will be very cheap. And probably a 1 year deal. He doesnt have much of a market coming off a bad year, but he is a better back then he has been this year. Since we run both Man and ZB schemes, he is the Bizzaro McFadden in that he is a pure zone HB. I think those three make a formidable 3 headed HB with Collins becoming the horse at some point in the season. Maybe even week 1

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. If it was a normal team I would absolutely agree that he doesn't hit the market. KC is just so cheap. The owners have been known to place the priority on the bottom line and not SBs. For that reason alone I'm not convinced one way or another of what they will do.