1st and goal from the one... what do you do?

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Are you kidding me. I mean are you kidding me. You either line up and punch someone in the face. Spread them out and QB sneak it. Spread them out and have one of our RBs run it. If you are going to throw it, it has to be a play where no one else has a chance other than our primary target...a play where one of our big bodies has a defender on his hip/back and the defender has to go through him to get a fingernail on the ball. This was not like the Super Bowl where AZ did not have any timeouts and a failed run could cause the end of the half

Garret has been around to long and paid way to much to do this....this is poor. The Cowboys ain't paying me NOTHING and even I say you punch someone in the mouth. How can you justify the money we are paying those 5 up front....and the amount of money/draft picks we have in our RBs...and you call THAT play????????????/

 

[JohnsKey19]

I think the play-call in the huddle is fine. I can live with it. Where I have the problem is Romo still making the throw to Witten after seeing Woodson in man-to-man coverage. If there is no 2nd option on the play, that has to be a throw-away by Tony.

 

[dbair1967]

Are you kidding me. I mean are you kidding me. You either line up and punch someone in the face. Spread them out and QB sneak it. Spread them out and have one of our RBs run it. If you are going to throw it, it has to be a play where no one else has a chance other than our primary target...a play where one of our big bodies has a defender on his hip/back and the defender has to go through him to get a fingernail on the ball. This was not like the Super Bowl where AZ did not have any timeouts and a failed run could cause the end of the half

Garret has been around to long and paid way to much to do this....this is poor. The Cowboys ain't paying me NOTHING and even I say you punch someone in the mouth. How can you justify the money we are paying those 5 up front....and the amount of money/draft picks we have in our RBs...and you call THAT play????????????/

I dont know what game you watched, but our OL got owned basically the entire afternoon. They were trying to score as quck as they could. I know I had zero confidence in them pushing the GB front 7 off the ball to score on a run.

It was a poor throw. If he throws the ball up and more towards the sideline, its an easy TD. Instead he threw it lower and a little behind, which allowed Woodson to close and make a play.

 

[Future]

I think the play-call in the huddle is fine. I can live with it. Where I have the problem is Romo still making the throw to Witten after seeing Woodson in man-to-man coverage. If there is no 2nd option on the play, that has to be a throw-away by Tony.

He was open enough, it was just thrown well behind him.

The WORST play call was on the first drive of the game...MBIII gets like a 15 yard run and the next play is empty

 

[kramskoi]

Are you kidding me. I mean are you kidding me. You either line up and punch someone in the face. Spread them out and QB sneak it. Spread them out and have one of our RBs run it. If you are going to throw it, it has to be a play where no one else has a chance other than our primary target...a play where one of our big bodies has a defender on his hip/back and the defender has to go through him to get a fingernail on the ball. This was not like the Super Bowl where AZ did not have any timeouts and a failed run could cause the end of the half

Garret has been around to long and paid way to much to do this....this is poor. The Cowboys ain't paying me NOTHING and even I say you punch someone in the mouth. How can you justify the money we are paying those 5 up front....and the amount of money/draft picks we have in our RBs...and you call THAT play????????????/

...Garrett did'nt get the memo...i've met plenty of smart people with no "common sense"...Barber: 5 for 26...he should've put on the game tape from last year when Marion ran for close to 150 yards...when Romo is dropping back nearly 50 times in a game the Cowboys are in trouble...complete and utter garbage...

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I dont know what game you watched, but our OL got owned basically the entire afternoon. They were trying to score as quck as they could. I know I had zero confidence in them pushing the GB front 7 off the ball to score on a run.

It was a poor throw. If he throws the ball up and more towards the sideline, its an easy TD. Instead he threw it lower and a little behind, which allowed Woodson to close and make a play.

I watched the game...and you do NOT bail those lazy bums out by making that play call...you do NOT let Green Bay off the hook by that play call. As I once heard a former NFL player say....if we gotta lose I am at LEAST taking a body part with me. Never has it been more CLEAR who wanted a game more. Miles Austin dived on that lose ball as if it were a grenade....Felix Jones just let a man TAKE the ball from him. For as big as we are we lack AGRESSION....it has ALWAYS been that way with the core of this group. #41 hit Spears so hard it lifted him off his feet...where was the retaliation? Teams would FEAR doing that dumb **** to Pitt or Baltimore...because they KNOW they would not leave that game without losing a body part. They straight punked us all night..and Garret and company did not FORCE these mental midgets to fight back!!!!!!!! We were NEVER going 14-2...so I am fine with losing....but you do continue to put film out for everyone to see that for all those muscles Dallas is soft as cat food!

 

[Derinyar]

With the game situation throwing was likely the right call. Barring the interception it is all dead ball after the play. Considering we needed 3 scores in 8 minutes with one time out its about the only way we could actually expect to hae a shot at doing it.

 

[BruceWayne]

It was a terrible call. Run the damn ball. Was Barber even on the field during that play

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

With the game situation throwing was likely the right call. Barring the interception it is all dead ball after the play. Considering we needed 3 scores in 8 minutes with one time out its about the only way we could actually expect to hae a shot at doing it.

you guys keep bailing that play call out. That play call was a microcosm of December failures....REAL football is puncing someone in the mouth even when they KNOW what is coming. There was plenty of time left...you neede one yard. Heck direct snap it to Choice for all I care...but you RUN the ball. It is about a MENTALITY. And our mentality was SOFT all day long!

 

[JeffInDC]

Are you kidding me. I mean are you kidding me. You either line up and punch someone in the face. Spread them out and QB sneak it. Spread them out and have one of our RBs run it. If you are going to throw it, it has to be a play where no one else has a chance other than our primary target...a play where one of our big bodies has a defender on his hip/back and the defender has to go through him to get a fingernail on the ball. This was not like the Super Bowl where AZ did not have any timeouts and a failed run could cause the end of the half

Garret has been around to long and paid way to much to do this....this is poor. The Cowboys ain't paying me NOTHING and even I say you punch someone in the mouth. How can you justify the money we are paying those 5 up front....and the amount of money/draft picks we have in our RBs...and you call THAT play????????????/

But, according to the usual suspects on this board, it was all Roy Williams' fault.

 

[WV Cowboy]

you guys keep bailing that play call out. That play call was a microcosm of December failures....REAL football is puncing someone in the mouth even when they KNOW what is coming. There was plenty of time left...you neede one yard. Heck direct snap it to Choice for all I care...but you RUN the ball. It is about a MENTALITY. And our mentality was SOFT all day long!

I could not agree more, it is a mentality, .. an attitude!

I do the P.A. for our local high school football games, have for 16 or 17 seasons.

Our high school has a very successful tradition of running the ball.

We were in a playoff game Friday night, and the score was tied 17 all. Two minutes left in the game and we had the ball, 4th and goal on their 2 yd line. We had just run three times from inside the 10 so the going was definitely tough.

Do you kick the FG to go up three or go for it on 4th?

Coach decided to move our All State FB back to the tailback spot and go for it.

So like you said, it is a mentality, punching someone in the mouth even when they know what is coming.

When we broke the huddle with our best RB moved from FB to TB, it was like saying to the defense, ... "do you see what we did? Do you see where Alex is? Guess what, here we come, .. can you stop us?

We scored and won the game.

Running the ball is an attitude, .. impose your will.

With our hosses up front I would like to see more of that attitude.

I would have run it on 1st and goal too.

 

[goshan]

I dont know what game you watched, but our OL got owned basically the entire afternoon. They were trying to score as quck as they could. I know I had zero confidence in them pushing the GB front 7 off the ball to score on a run.

It was a poor throw. If he throws the ball up and more towards the sideline, its an easy TD. Instead he threw it lower and a little behind, which allowed Woodson to close and make a play.

It was not an easy TD no matter where the ball is thrown. But it wasn't a good throw clearly. There was a small gap there if it were thrown wide and over the top, but it required a perfect ball.

BTW, I don't think the call was bad either. Poor execution. Intended RCVR (TE) wasn't open. Tony got pressure, he should have thrown it away. But saying it was an 'easy td' is silly. It was crowded as hell over there by Witten - nobody was fooled.

 

[Hook'em#11]

But, according to the usual suspects on this board, it was all Roy Williams' fault.

Well, sorry, but, he certianly didn't help the cause. That 41 yd completion? Then to hold the ball so loosely and fumble?

How about TWICE the alligator arms. Then looking back at the bench and at Romo with the "too high" motion? hmmm??? Dude is 6'3 and it hits him in the helmet? Yeah, okay. Course, the ball didn't seem to high for him on the TD play. Funny how that works.

No one is to blame for this loss. The Green Bay Packers are to blame. They played well, Dallas didn't.

As far as the goal line play. It didn't work. Plain and simple. Wonder how many would be whining and complaining had Witten caught the pass for a TD, with Woodson in his back pocket still. NO one, It would of been a great play call, Witten made a great catch and Romo is the man, etc, etc.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I could not agree more, it is a mentality, .. an attitude!

I do the P.A. for our local high school football games, have for 16 or 17 seasons.

Our high school has a very successful tradition of running the ball.

We were in a playoff game Friday night, and the score was tied 17 all. Two minutes left in the game and we had the ball, 4th and goal on their 2 yd line. We had just run three times from inside the 10 so the going was definitely tough.

Do you kick the FG to go up three or go for it on 4th?

Coach decided to move our All State FB back to the tailback spot and go for it.

So like you said, it is a mentality, punching someone in the mouth even when they know what is coming.

When we broke the huddle with our best RB moved from FB to TB, it was like saying to the defense, ... "do you see what we did? Do you see where Alex is? Guess what, here we come, .. can you stop us?

We scored and won the game.

Running the ball is an attitude, .. impose your will.

With our hosses up front I would like to see more of that attitude.

I would have run it on 1st and goal too.

Whether or not you choose to run or pass in that situation is one thing. As I've said before, I'm fine with the pass call. At the same time, at least 1 run play would be fine as well.

However, all this talk about "imposing your will" and "attitude"....look I understand your point in the grand scheme of things. But you dont impose your will suddenly late in the 4th quarter after pass blocking essentially the entire game. It's not some magic wand you pull out of your back pocket. I get your point. But at least IMO, that applies to more of a sustained effort throughout the game, not all of a sudden when you've been doing the opposite for 45 minutes.

 

[Wrangler87]

...And why not challenge the interception? Why not? It looked, on limited replay, like the ball moved when Woodson hit the ground. If ever you are going to waste a challenge, that is when you do it.

On the play, it was a great play by Woodson, who jumped it like he was in the huddle. The throw could have been better, but Witten could have reached out for it more too.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Whether or not you choose to run or pass in that situation is one thing. As I've said before, I'm fine with the pass call. At the same time, at least 1 run play would be fine as well.

However, all this talk about "imposing your will" and "attitude"....look I understand your point in the grand scheme of things. But you dont impose your will suddenly late in the 4th quarter after pass blocking essentially the entire game. It's not some magic wand you pull out of your back pocket. I get your point. But at least IMO, that applies to more of a sustained effort throughout the game, not all of a sudden when you've been doing the opposite for 45 minutes.

No matter what has happened previously in a game, when you have 1 yard to go, either to get a first down or a TD, .. you need to look at each other in the huddle, eye to eye, and decide right then that you are going to do this. Impose your will for "1" yard!

If you can't, for one yard, maybe you know you aren't going to win that day anyway.

 

[JohnsKey19]

No matter what has happened previously in a game, when you have 1 yard to go, either to get a first down or a TD, .. you need to look at each other in the huddle, eye to eye, and decide right then that you are going to do this. Impose your will for "1" yard!

If you can't, for one yard, maybe you know you aren't going to win that day anyway.

Yeah, that's all well and good. But Gurode, BIGG and co. aren't calling the plays.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Yeah, that's all well and good. But Gurode, BIGG and co. aren't calling the plays.

Did you think I was voicing my displeasure at them?

I was questioning the play-calling, not the O-line.

 

[speedkilz88]

To answer the OP's question, yes I give it to Barber on first and goal at the one. There was plenty of time left.

 

[CF74]

1st and goal from the one... what do you do?

Obviously we keep doing what doesn't work, we throw multiple passes till we get picked off....:bang2::bang2::bang2: