1st Round DT options

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Arik Armstead Oregon





Oregon ran a 3-4 so complete projection. Planet theory definitely applies. Appears to depend heavily on size over technique. Too often out of control like out TMclain on his rushes upfield. Slow off the snap but maybe waiting on the constant double teams coming his way. Very very raw. Boom-bust. More developed than Floyd who was almost childlike watching him play but similar prospects.

Eddie Goldman





Played with talented line and enjoyed multiple isolations. Can get bogged down with short arms. Works hard to disengage and strong at the poa. Able to move well on stretches and move plays. Good not elite short area quickness to close once disngaged. Good size but appears maxxed out. Is what he is limited upside. Poor mans short armed sly morris

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not impressed

 

[tm1119]

I would hate a 1st round DT in this draft. WAY too deep of a class to take 1 in the 1st imo....unless Malcolm Brown were to fall but i doubt that.

Cooper
Bennett
Jarrett
Hardison
Wright
Philon
Davison
Lott

Get me 1 of those guys between the 2nd and 5th and I think we'll be just fine at DT.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I would hate a 1st round DT in this draft. WAY too deep of a class to take 1 in the 1st imo....unless Malcolm Brown were to fall but i doubt that.

Cooper
Bennett
Jarrett
Hardison
Wright
Philon
Davison
Lott

Get me 1 of those guys between the 2nd and 5th and I think we'll be just fine at DT.

Yeah NFLDS has Brown at 15 so I consider him a very long shot to be there at the end of the 1st.

 

[Derinyar]

I just don't think we take a DT in round 1 because a good 3 tech would already be gone and we're just not that interested, it seems, in a 1 tech grinder.

 

[ceerrece]

To me, the only 1st round DT's are: Williams, Shelton and Brown. I think there are more value in other positions.

 

[Bigtommyb]

To me, the only 1st round DT's are: Williams, Shelton and Brown. I think there are more value in other positions.

Ok but we Kraken signed for one year and he will still not be here for 2 min possibly 4. We have to get a good rotation in here.. Hayden is good but hes not a starter. I mean we always want the sexy pick but we need atleast 2 in this draft to compensate early for Kraken and fresh depth when he gets back.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I just don't think we take a DT in round 1 because a good 3 tech would already be gone and we're just not that interested, it seems, in a 1 tech grinder.

BB said that in an attempt to explain why they didn't draft Floyd 2 years ago. People have ran with it but I don't buy it. They drafted Booger McFarland in TB; I just think they thought -rightfully so- that Floyd wasn't a good prospect.

 

[AzorAhai]

I don't think DT should be the pick in 1 unless one of the top 3 fall. DE is looking more and more unlikely. I think OO goes before our pick and Eli Harold is flying up boards. Some very good OL prospects will fall if thats the route they choose to go, but imo it will be Gurley or Gordon, a couple of CBs or maybe Kendricks in the BPA tier.

 

[waving monkey]

CB Gurley,Gordon or drop to high second and draft RB

 

[AzorAhai]

CB Gurley,Gordon or drop to high second and draft RB

That is the simplest solution, very likely and will still line up with bpa in all likelihood.

1st rd, RB or CB
2nd whichever you didn't get in 1st
3rd LB or DL
4th OT or whichever you didn't get in the 3rd.

 

[Macnalty]

Have to disagree if Goldman, Owamagbe, and possibly Preston Smith are there at our pick 27, we need to really pause(they each make this defense better think how Martin influence was well disguised last year). I agree on Gurley being BPA, but our Oline gives us some slack. I also do not think a rd 1 worth CB drops in our lap. Hopefully our goal is to get two starters out of this draft, 3 is not realistic at our slot unless you are a fanboy. We have Hardy so we can afford to bring around a project at DE.

 

[Gaede]

I like Goldman, but the talented line thing does worry me

 

[theogt]

I like Goldman a lot. I'd like him a lot better in the second round, but he won't last far into the second, if at all. Pick 27 may be viewed as a tad high, but people said the same thing about Frederick. Much like Frederick, I think he's a guy that you immediately plug in and he improves our line. He's just a solid guy that, while he may have limited upside, he also has limited downside. He's not going to fizzle out like a bunch of high first round DTs.

He's a big bodied work horse that is about as stout as they come. If you want a protypical 1-tech that will solidify your interior for a decade, then you draft him. If you want Warren Sapp, then look elsewhere.

 

[itsaboat]

I'm not a fan of drafting a DT or RB in the 1st right now. 2nd round and on I'd be ok with it. I would rather look at CB or LB if possible.

The two guys I like right now, haven't done a lot of homework, are Xavier Cooper and Grady Jarrett. Cooper looks disruptive with his speed, especially when he gets to go after the QB. WSU had him playing run first most of the time but when he had the chance to go after the passer he would usually get into the backfield. Really good at anticipating the snap, explosive off the ball, plays hard, and rarely comes out the game. Jarrett looks like a 1T for us that could play some 3T. Also good get up but a little short. Uses it to his advantage because he gets under guys and with his strength can get a push. He would miss series at a time. Maybe Clemson had a rotation but he also looked a little sluggish late in games.

 

[AsthmaField]

BB said that in an attempt to explain why they didn't draft Floyd 2 years ago. People have ran with it but I don't buy it. They drafted Booger McFarland in TB; I just think they thought -rightfully so- that Floyd wasn't a good prospect.

While I agree with you that we fans have over-stated the first round 1-tech thing, I do believe that they don't really want to spend a first on a 1-tech. Like most things though, there are gray areas in that guideline. IMO it applies much more to the 15th pick in the first round than the 27th. I wrote on here the other day that I wouldn't rule out a 1 tech at 27 because it is so near the end of the first round.

So, I wouldn't rule it out, for sure. It would have to be the BPA by far and maybe no trade partners.

If a RB they like is there, Dallas would take him over a 1T. If a DE or CB was there, either would be taken before a 1T. A 3T would be taken before the 1T.

Or, if Dallas felt like they were set at most positions and their one gaping hole was at 1T, they might go that way too. That, IMO is what Tampa did with Booger McFarland.

IOW, if things fell just right I could see them taking a 1T DT early, but as a general rule of thumb they don't want to take one in the first.