cool, im glad for you Hostile, just thought you guys might want to know, pacman jones is on the michael irwin show, pretty interesting stuff, where pacman saw his dad killed when he was 8, didnt really have a man image to grow up too, etc, he says he blames himself, man enough to admit it, staying away from people that might get him in trouble and trying to get back into football, what he really loves, after it was taken away from him, michael irwin tlaking about some of his substanace issues, drinking etc, and realizing its all on himself to admit wrong and stay away, no one can do it but yourself and yoiu cant stay with people whom are going the wrong way