2005 Giants = 2003 Cowboys

phdefense

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This Giant team/start reminds me of how the Cowboys started out in 2003. After 4 weeks that Cowboys team had the #1 offense in the NFL but it was smoke and mirriors built from playing bad teams. However that is where the similarities end because unlike the 2003 Cowboys this Giant teams doesn't have the defense for the smoke and mirrors to hold up and go 10-6 and make the playoffs.

The mirror breaks on Sunday. :lmao2:
 

Eddie

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Sounds good to me. If teams can exploit the G's weaknesses, I think you'll see the L's piling up.

But nevertheless, they've beaten the teams the NFL set against them. We're next.

If we lose, then last week's win was useless.
 

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I'm not worried about the offense for the Giants, just if our D can step up enough to slow down the Cowboys
 

Paniolo22

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I don't think they are alike at all. The giants have a much more prolific offense with much more weapons than we had in 03. Shockey, Burress, Barber, Toomer, Manning. Sheesh! Who did we have? Galloway, Glenn, Hambrick, Campbell and Carter. No comparrison. We have our hands full gentlemen. We need to come out and play hard from the get go, no smoke and mirrors there.
 

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phdefense said:
This Giant team/start reminds me of how the Cowboys started out in 2003. After 4 weeks that Cowboys team had the #1 offense in the NFL but it was smoke and mirriors built from playing bad teams. However that is where the similarities end because unlike the 2003 Cowboys this Giant teams doesn't have the defense for the smoke and mirrors to hold up and go 10-6 and make the playoffs.

The mirror breaks on Sunday. :lmao2:


Ok i guess i will break it down.

First the giants have only given about 50 yards a game on the ground too there opponents, besides SD, which is the team you beat without gates, which in turn helped you key on LT2 for only 73 yds, right now Gates and Shockey are the 1-2 TEs in the leagues if you look at the stats, Gates has more recptions with one less game then his WR, please tell me that doesnt make a diff. Not too mention you won by 4 pts. And LT2 only had 19 touches that game, and in the endzone with 4 plays they never once gave it to LT2 there best player and Gates was not there.

You barely were able to put up pts on the skins, and blew the game by having them go deep on you, you scored one of your tds by a trick play.

You gave up 31 pts to SF are you kidding me? And you played Oak alright, but its not hard to play them when they are randy bound. If you ever watched the giants play him, we always **** him down.

You guys had everything clicking on the eagles game, great win for you guys. But you guys only played 2 winning teams. Not much of a difference between us too. I do honestly believe this will be a good test for us both, but dont forget SD is the highest scoring team with 5 weeks of play, while we only had 4 and we are barely behind by 13 total pts. We have a very potent offense if manning keeps playing the way he has. Dont forget going into dallas will only be his 12th game as a starter.

Now lets get back to the defense side of things.
We have scored on every opening drive this year. Which in turn puts teams behind us in pts pretty quick. That in turn makes teams pass attempt 46.5 times a game. Even with that average and u multiply 7 yards per attempt which is about ave. for a qb we are right around where the ave team is in giving up yds, but again other teams attempt a lot more then us.

We play close and aggresive in the begining of the game, when we get a good lead our defense starts to play a bit softer and keeps everything infront of them to make sure no big plays occurs (biggest play we have allowed was 31 yds) and too keep time going. We also have held Duce, Jackson/Faulk and the sucky arizona team too under 50 yds a game rushing, we played horrible against SD that in my opinion was a total meltdown, i prefer too take the law of averages and 3 out of 4 games we were top 1-2 teams too stop the run till the SD game, that inflated our run aver. from just over 43 yds a game too 103 yds a game. So numbers can be tricky.

Then we have the 2nd best TO ratio we are +10 and 14 turnovers overall. That again is with a bye week.

So right now we have a run stop de, which your run game doesnt seem to be up too par yet this yr, besides the eagles game.

We have one of the best TO ratios

We have the highest offensive team in the league so far

We have one of the best ST units this year, mind you Feely hasnt missed anything as of yet (knock on wood) and has actually had quite a few kneel downs on kick returns.

One thing your team is opened too is getting attacked deep. Most teams have been playing us 7-8 in the box, and tiki has still been getting his, but whats great now is, when teams have been blitzing us, we are actually making them pay now.

I just wouldnt be looking at the numbers so closely without looking at the whole picture.

Honestly i believe this will be a good game, because they always are between rivals. But if you guys think we are a cake walk, or all those numbers dont mean anything you might be in for a rude awakening.
 

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well. First, what we think is irrealvent. Second, we have been in every game we played. I myself don't think this is a cakewalk, but you can throw all of your stats right out the window on this one. This game is usually decided by 3-7 points. Our team is coming off of a BIG win. Your team had a bye after a big win against the Rams. Thats where we're at. Your only as good as your last game, and in this case, we both look good. Our first 5 or 4 games don't mean squat. How we won, or lost. Lets get ready for a good game this Sunday. One in which I will be personally attending.
 
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