2008 Senior Bowl Wednesday Practice Notes

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Senior Bowl Practice Report
North Team
Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
Wed, January 23, 2008, Mobile, AL --
A physical week of practice began was clearly taking its toll on the North players as several left the field in pain. Three players, in fact, left practice early.

Previous injuries sustained by DT Kentwan Balmer, ILB Beau Bell, and RB Chris Johnson had left left the North team precariously thin already.

West Virginia fullback Owen Schmitt and a pair of Michigan Wolverines -- strong safety Jamar Adams and outside linebacker Shawn Crable -- each left the field early Wednesday. Senior Bowl officials declined to comment on the nature or severity of the injuries.

Others needing extra medical attention, but able to return to the field included defensive tackles DeMario Pressley and Trevor Laws.

After focusing on the other positions on Monday and Tuesday, I focused on the running backs and linebackers today.


Running Backs:

The most complete back on the field for the North throughout the week of practice has been Cal's Justin Forsett. Despite his lack of prototype height (5076), Forsett has a thick, powerful build. It also should be noted that one of the legitimate concerns scouts generally have with smaller backs is that they generally have smaller hands -- making them generally less secure ball handlers. This isn't the case with Forsett, who, with 10 and 4/8" inch hands has the second largest pair of any player on the entire North squad. In fact, only 6-7, 315 pound offensive tackle Gosder Cherilus has larger hands (11 4/8) than Forsett. Forsett has very good initial quickness and is an instinctive, decisive runner with acceleration to take advantage of holes in the defense. His vision and agility was on display during this morning's scrimmage with a beautiful weaving run through the first string defense. On the play Forsett maneuvered past the likes of Keith Rivers, Dan Connor, and Tom Zbikowksi. It was the most impressive run I've seen from any back all week long.

USC's Chauncey Washington was lost a bit behind the shuffle of terrific athletes the Trojans boasted at running back, but he's opened some eyes this week. While he has the size and physicality teams are looking for as an inside runner, Washington showed good speed to the outside today, getting to the edge and making defenders miss. He's also shown very good hands out of the backfield, a concern entering the week.

Oklahoma State's Dantrell Savage has some jitterbug to him and catches the ball well. He struggles as an interior runner and goes down too easily to initial contact. He hasn't had a bad week, but has cemented his status with scouts as a back best suited to a third down role at the next level.

Prior to going down to injury, West Virginia's Owen Schmitt had been enjoying a solid week of practice. As fans of the Big East well know, Schmitt is accomplished in all three phases of the game, showing reliable hands out of the backfield, bullish running (with surprising straight-line speed), and physicality and tenacity as blocker. One area of concern is that Schmitt, though possessing soft hands, has struggled to make anyone miss after making the catch. Of course, his injury will play a huge role in his final draft status.


Linebackers:

Penn State's Dan Connor entered the Senior Bowl ranked as the top inside linebacker in the draft and he's done nothing to endanger that ranking. In fact, Connor has been so impressive, his stock is on the rise. Compared by many to former Penn State star, Paul Posluszny, Connor's ability to change direction and remain on the field in passing situations makes him a possible candidate to move back outside (as he played previous to his senior season) in the NFL. Connor's ability to tackle in space and remain with backs and tight ends in coverage has drawn raves from scouts. Connor not only has cemented his status as the elite inside linebacker, he may have jumped ahead of USC's Keith Rivers as the top overall linebacker prospect.

Speaking of Keith Rivers, his smooth athleticism continues to stand out. Rivers has the prototype blend of size, speed, and overall athleticism that scouts are looking for in the outside linebacker position. During blitz drills, Rivers beat backs with a variety of moves, showing agility, technique, and explosive power. The concern with Rivers -- as it has been throughout his career while with the Trojans -- is that he simply doesn't make enough big plays. Surrounded by two future first round picks in Rey Maualuga and Brian Cushing, however, big play opportunities were tough to come by. Rivers has solidified his stock this week as a strong first round prospect and could add a late boost with a big play or two during Saturday's game.

Another athletic outside linebacker solidifying his stock this week is Virginia Tech's Xavier Adibi. While he lacks the bulk scouts prefer for the position, there is no denying his agility and closing burst. Adibi runs well with backs and tight ends while in coverage, and showed great agility when beating backs in pass rush drills. While he needs to add weight and upper body strength, Adibi has developed his hand usage over his career and has great foot speed and balance to remain unengaged.

UCLA's Bruce Davis was one of the Pac-10's most feared pass rushers as a defensive end, but at 6-3, 241 pounds, he's making the transition to outside linebacker here in Mobile. Playing almost exclusively at strongside, Davis has the athleticism and size to warrant further development here, but is raw as they come in disengaging from blocks. He reads the action well enough, but really lacks discipline, at this point, and over-pursues, leaving gaping holes for backs with the vision and burst to take advantage of cut-back lanes. Davis has explosive speed off the edge, but doesn't use his hands well enough once engaged. He has upside, but is by no means a finished product at the linebacker position.

Before going down to injury today, Michigan's Shawn Crable had been exposed a bit this week. In a case of how analytical NFL scouts are, Crable's very thin, very long lower legs are a huge cause for concern. His lack of lower body strength and flexibility makes him a bit one-dimensional. He is very effective off the edge as a pass rusher, showing good burst off the snap and an ability to close on the passer. In coverage, however, he struggled with changing direction and he was over-powered too often at the point of attack.

Colorado's Jordan Dizon is the least impressive linebacker on the North roster in terms of his physical stature and build. That said, he has great instincts and is a physical, sound player whose production at Colorado is no mirage. He doesn't have the size and speed to wow scouts and thus, won't be a high draft choice, but some team is going to find themselves middle or late round prospect that can flat out play football.

Before going down to injury, Beau Bell's lack of agility had been exposed this week. In a straight-line, Bell has impressive speed and explosive power. Whether coming on the blitz or playing back in coverage, when Bell has to change directions, he loses his explosiveness and struggles. He is physical and flashes explosive hitting ability, but he struggled badly in coverage this week and is slipping down the board. Of course, like any other injured player, Bell's ultimate stock will depend on his medical status.[/FONT]
 

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Senior Bowl Practice Report: Wednesday North Team Player Notes
Senior Bowl Practice Report
North Team
Chad Reuter, NFLDraftScout.com
Wed, January 23, 2008, Mobile, AL -- The third practice for the North team was held today, and most of the hype will surround quarterbacks Chad Henne, Joe Flacco, and John David Booty. But the guys snapping them the ball, centers John Sullivan (Notre Dame) and Mike Pollak (Arizona State), have been excellent in both pass protection and run blocking this week. They deserve some love, too!

Sullivan's stock dropped this year with Notre Dame's demise, but he's rebounding nicely here. Pollak moved up into the top two centers overall early in the year, and stayed there with his stout play this week. In fact, he's probably the #1 center on a number of teams' boards now because he plays stronger than Wake Forest's Steve Justice.

Included below are a few thoughts about some of the performances today. By day three, guys typically have shown what they are. Some players are not listed here because I've touched on them earlier this week. Check the previous write-ups on the web site for more information.


Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame: Flashes nice penetration ability with a swim move over the guard's outside shoulder. Very effective on the slant, as well, as he's quick enough to make for a tough reach. A potential find for a team looking for a solid 3-technique pass rusher.

Sam Baker, OT, USC: The long-time Trojan starter isn't particularly impressive in any one part of his game. He's not especially strong, nor always quick-footed. But rarely do you see him get cleanly beaten off the edge or inside.

Jordon Dizon, OLB, Colorado: Used at the will linebacker this week, where he showed an ability to get into coverage and also the willingness to throw his body into the play. Clearly has excellent read-and-react skills, because his jersey is always around the ball. Does not easily get off blocks due to his size, however, which is a problem when getting through the trash.

Chauncey Washington, RB, USC: Continued his solid week with strong running, even bounced a run outside and showed more speed to the outside than expected. He also displayed versatility, lining up at fullback and in the slot. Didn't blow anyone up at FB, eschewing the inside hole to go outside after a corner. He generally caught the ball well. Had one drop, but came back on the next play and adjusted to a ball thrown behind him while running down the seam with a linebacker. In a draft class without a lot of larger backs, Washington and Matt Forte are wanted men.

Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State: Tried to make up for a rough couple of days, catching the ball a bit more consistently…but still had a couple of drops. Used his size well to block out CB Terrell Thomas on a fade in the end zone, although he failed to get the ball at its highest point.

Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State: Very smooth runner, showed nice athleticism getting out of his cuts quickly. Also snatched most every ball with his hands. His 6'6", 260 pound frame makes it tough for linebackers and safeties to get around him to make a play on the ball.

Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State: Well-built receiver continues to make all of the catches. Won't be high on all teams' boards because of his lack of suddenness in routes. But he has managed to get behind quicker corners downfield. Someone will see a shorter version of Drew Bennett in him, a solid possession receiver who can occasionally put up big games.

Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College: Came to play today, getting after it on almost every play. Still tends to overextend himself a bit in pass protection, but really neutralized Lawrence Jackson in one-on-one drills with his long arms and punch. His lit fire showed when he and Avril fought in one-on-one drills.

Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech: Another impressive day for Royal. Quickness is his biggest asset, as he gets around corners as quickly as he gets around cones in drills. He snatched almost every ball thrown his way, only getting a couple into his body.

Thomas DeCoud, S, California: Teams like safeties that can play receivers and tight ends physically, but DeCoud took it to a new level today. He probably would have drawn several flags being in the jerseys of TE Fred Davis and others. He also displayed adequate range to get to the deep ball.

Jason Jones, DE, Easetern Michigan: Continued his improvement from the East-West game, taking Ohio State OT Kirk Barton to task multiple times in 1-on-1 drills and 11-on-11 scrimmages. Used outside-in moves and bull rushes to get to the QB, and also got off Barton's block to attack ballcarriers running his way.

Drew Radovich, OG, USC: A bit slow coming out of his stance, which can limit him against quicker interior linemen like former teammate DT Sedrick Ellis. But he can still block down on the tackle and then get to the mike. Also gives strong effort anchoring inside.

Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri: A lot better effort blocking today than Tuesday, albeit as an H-back, not in-line in one-on-one's against safeties and linebackers. Is not particularly explosive off the line and doesn't separate from linebackers that well.

John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame: Has shown excellent strength this week, stonewalling tackles with a strong punch and square pads. Is also underrated is his ability to move to the mike 'backer.

Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana: Very smooth in his backpedal and transition on deep routes. Lined up in the slot and outside. Reads routes well, too, looking like the intended receiver by stepping in front of Adarius Bowman and taking the play away. Porter stuck with the very quick Eddie Royal on a stop-and-go route, when most of the other corners here would have been left in the dust. Was in coverage against WR Lavelle Hawkins on a great deep catch, but had him covered about as well as he could.

Cliff Avril, DE, Purdue: A likely candidate to play OLB in a 3-4 scheme, Avril has done well with his hand down this week. A flash of his potential at linebacker appeared when he quickly got upfield on a pass play then quickly changed directions as QB Chad Henne ran the naked bootleg to his side. Avril would have put Henne on the ground if he hadn't let up.

Bryan Mattison, DE, Iowa: For some reason, he was brought in to play defensive tackle after Kentwan Balmer could not attend. Mattison was totally overmatched inside. He played end at Iowa and last week in Houston for the East-West Shrine Game, and is likely to stay there unless a team gives him some time on a practice squad to learn a position.

Justin Forsett, RB, California: Not only is he a tough inside runner for his size, but he also displayed some nifty foot work in traffic on one of the better runs of the day. No one could get a hand on him as he weaved though linemen and linebackers and into the secondary.

Fred Davis, TE, USC: He's not been explosive this week but isn't making many mistakes, either. Caught most every ball thrown his way, and got up the seam against linebackers...even though he didn't really separate. Held his own while in-line blocking.

Dejuan Tribble, CB, Boston College: Again struggled to jam receivers at the line, and lacked the speed to stay with receivers down the sideline. WR Adarius Bowman shooed Tribble away like a fly on a short sideline pattern, sending him out of bounds. He did have one nice play to break up a short curl over the middle. His NFL career depends on his being able to play in the slot.

Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa: Former track athlete who is a bit raw in technique. He can turn and run with any receiver. Must learn to play smart, though…he pushed down WR Lavelle Hawkins to the ground when the Cal wideout initiated contact to get separation on an 18-yard out. That's a penalty, Charles...especially since the ball whizzed to their side of the field.

Roy Scheuning, OG, Oregon State: Has impressive strength inside, not giving up much ground to DTs Trevor Laws and Demario Pressley in one-on-ones. But Scheuning struggled a bit in live action to keep Laws' quickness in check.

Lavelle Hawkins, WR, California: Did just about everything today. Caught short and deep routes with hands, arms extended. Racked up YAC with quick moves. Made the play of the day, bringing down a contended deep throw for a touchdown. Even got the young crowd attending the practice involved by pointing to them and asking for more noise. Didn't look like he was craving attention, but just having fun.

John David Booty, QB, USC: Will not be hyped as much as Chad Henne and Joe Flacco, but Booty has simply been solid. His throws are tight spirals that are on the money. His delivery is smooth and compact.

Jason Jones, DE, Eastern Michigan: Will be showing up in OT Kirk Barton's nightmares tonight. Jones used his length to get around the former Buckeye, bull-rushed Barton into the quarterback, ripped him upstairs to slide by him, and even got off his run blocks to grab the running back on the way by. Just like in Houston for East-West, Jones has gotten better every practice out at end.

Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware: This guy simply makes all of the throws from the pocket, from the short pass in the flat to the 18-yard out to the deep sideline ball. People who hadn't seen him before were mesmerized by his size and arm strength. Wait until they see him throw accurately on the move…this guy's no 6'6", 235 pound statue.

Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue: He's not playing to his timed speed, failing to get separation from corners. Bryant also lets too many balls into his body.

Keith Rivers, LB, USC: Again played inside and outside today. Not the smoothest into his drops. Will explode into his gap from the mike spot. Played a strong sam against the run, stuffing the tight end and negating the play.
 

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Thanks for all the reports, theo.

Too bad Connor looks that good... He sounds like a perfect replacement for Akin.

Nelson, Royal, Forsett, and Porter sound good to me.
 

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Lavelle Hawkins, WR, California: Did just about everything today. Caught short and deep routes with hands, arms extended. Racked up YAC with quick moves. Made the play of the day, bringing down a contended deep throw for a touchdown. Even got the young crowd attending the practice involved by pointing to them and asking for more noise. Didn't look like he was craving attention, but just having fun.

He'll need a year to put on weight, but I have a feeling that this kid's going be a solid pro for years.

Anyone know his 40?

Marchetta, did Bolyhardt profile him yet? Thx.
 

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Has anyone been watching NFLN's coverage of the practices? I caught a segment of Martz working w/ the South's QBs and was shocked how they lacked fundamentals (i.e. footwork, release points, etc). Colt Brennen may be able to sling the ball around, but judging by his mechanics, he's got bust written all over him. He's also going to get killed at his current weight. He was looking downright anorexic next to the other qbs on the field w/ him.
 

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Hailmary;1924142 said:
He'll need a year to put on weight, but I have a feeling that this kid's going be a solid pro for years.

Anyone know his 40?

Marchetta, did Bolyhardt profile him yet? Thx.

No, not yet. I'll post him when he does.
 

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Does this injury push Schmidt to day two, and right into our hands in the fourth? I hope so.
 

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Hailmary;1924155 said:
Has anyone been watching NFLN's coverage of the practices? I caught a segment of Martz working w/ the South's QBs and was shocked how they lacked fundamentals (i.e. footwork, release points, etc). Colt Brennen may be able to sling the ball around, but judging by his mechanics, he's got bust written all over him. He's also going to get killed at his current weight. He was looking downright anorexic next to the other qbs on the field w/ him.
I agree. I never thought he was a pro QB, despite what June Jones claimed.

Also agree about the poor fundamentals of college kids, even from the bigger programs. Makes you wary of hiring coaches out of college.

Is the NFLN coverage pretty good? It never seems to be on at night when I check it.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1924164 said:
I agree. I never thought he was a pro QB, despite what June Jones claimed.

Also agree about the poor fundamentals of college kids, even from the bigger programs. Makes you wary of hiring coaches out of college.

Is the NFLN coverage pretty good? It never seems to be on at night when I check it.

It's not bad. It passes the time when your team's out of the playoffs. :mad:
 

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All the South QBs are god awful. Woodson is horrible in the pocket. I have no idea where everyone gets this notion of him being a scrambler. Hes has average speed at best for a QB.

All in all, the North QBs eat the South QB's.
 

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Any word on the South practices? In particular SS Quintin Demps?
 

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EPL0c0;1924185 said:
Any word on the South practices? In particular SS Quintin Demps?
The South practices in the afternoon so the reports come out later. I'm posting them as they come out.
 

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theogt;1924208 said:
The South practices in the afternoon so the reports come out later. I'm posting them as they come out.
Sweet, thanks much! I don't have NFLN, so y'all are my only access to it :)
 

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Hailmary;1924155 said:
Has anyone been watching NFLN's coverage of the practices? I caught a segment of Martz working w/ the South's QBs and was shocked how they lacked fundamentals (i.e. footwork, release points, etc). Colt Brennen may be able to sling the ball around, but judging by his mechanics, he's got bust written all over him. He's also going to get killed at his current weight. He was looking downright anorexic next to the other qbs on the field w/ him.
Yeah I saw that this afternoon.
In fact the South qb's are very below average. Booty and Henne and the Delaware qb are all better than anything the south has.
 

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Justin Forsett is a local kid from Grace Prep. He should get a visit to the Ranch.
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Hailmary;1924155 said:
Has anyone been watching NFLN's coverage of the practices? I caught a segment of Martz working w/ the South's QBs and was shocked how they lacked fundamentals (i.e. footwork, release points, etc). Colt Brennen may be able to sling the ball around, but judging by his mechanics, he's got bust written all over him. He's also going to get killed at his current weight. He was looking downright anorexic next to the other qbs on the field w/ him.
Colt definitely needs to put on some weight. It doesn't help that he had the flu and lost about even more weight.

He's a developmental prospect who could probably benefitted from Europe if the NFL did not close up shop there.
 

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i hope we don't spend a 1 on tribble.. he has been getting abused all week.
 
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