2010: Our Year

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Romo 2 Austin;3248884 said:
2nd lowest points allowed. The only stat that matters.

Good grief that was a PATHETIC response. I believe I said as HC, and as HC points allowed is FAR from being the only stat that matters. On top of that stats are not nearly the full story.

You say all this ridiculously outlandish stuff but never can back it up with any sort of solid reasons. This is just another example.
 

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utrunner07;3248846 said:
lol, there are absolutely so many reason why not to believe. the odds of going all the way are SO against us next year, even more than this year. I believe they will make the playoffs, I also believe they will get knocked out early, my goal for this team next season is not to get embarrassed in the playoffs, I would be fairly satisfied with that.

I'm just curious, could you elaborate on the bolded part? While I tend to be a cockeyed optimist, I also understand not everyone feels that way, and I have no problem with that. I can understand feeling that the odds of going all the way are against us, but why do you think it's even more than this year? In what way are we worse off now than we were coming in to this season?
 

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CowboysPhan;3248895 said:
I'm just curious, could you elaborate on the bolded part? While I tend to be a cockeyed optimist, I also understand not everyone feels that way, and I have no problem with that. I can understand feeling that the odds of going all the way are against us, but why do you think it's even more than this year? In what way are we worse off now than we were coming in to this season?

Well, IMO: *and this is just my opinion and by no means a fact.

Its going to be a tougher schedule
We were fairly lucky with injuries this year (as opposed to last year)
The O line will not be fixed in one season
I believe teams will and have started figuring out how to cover Austin
We still lack the drive and leadership and though sometimes we have it its not consistent
I worry about Brookings health and ability to keep being the main motivator of this team

With that being said there are upsides that I see next year

Romo will be better (even better)
Hopefully Garrett pulls his stuff together and figures things out
Maybe some of our back up LB come up big...

But in the end I don't see the team as is a legit threat to win it all mainly because they are still inconsistent and I don't see enough changing between now and then. They will most likely make the playoffs and if they win a game and don't get embarrassed like this year I will be fairly happy. We will not win the superbowl every year, I do expect this team to make the playoffs every year (anything less is a failure) and hopefully win a Superbowl on average every 5 years or so...long post but I think I answered your question.

I should say I would have and did call people crazy for predicting 11-5 this season, so what do I know.
 

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utrunner07;3248894 said:
Good grief that was a PATHETIC response. I believe I said as HC, and as HC points allowed is FAR from being the only stat that matters. On top of that stats are not nearly the full story.

You say all this ridiculously outlandish stuff but never can back it up with any sort of solid reasons. This is just another example.

He is also a DC.

As HC: This is his team, the players play for HIM. They bought into his system and love it, if the players like it, I like it.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3248914 said:
He is also a DC.

As HC: This is his team, the players play for HIM. They bought into his system and love it, if the players like it, I like it.
He's not just a HC like so many people rant about, he's a HC/DC which is important to note. To see the D perform the way it did all season long is a testament to him as a coach.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3248914 said:
He is also a DC.

As HC: This is his team, the players play for HIM. They bought into his system and love it, if the players like it, I like it.

Yeah he is also the DC but that is not what we are talking about. You said he was a fantastic coach and he was going to bring us the Lombardi trophy. I want to know why you think he is such a fantastic head coach (I am not talking about DC so don't give me any of that crap).

So far your answer is: "This is his team, the players play for HIM. They bought into his system and love it, if the players like it, I like it."

Guess what buddy? Its been that way for three years but it sure has not brought us any trophies yet. Now come on dig down deep, think real hard and tell me something about Wade that you think is fantastic and going to win us a super bowl. How is it going to be different with him all the sudden next year?
 

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utrunner07;3248922 said:
Yeah he is also the DC but that is not what we are talking about. You said he was a fantastic coach and he was going to bring us the Lombardi trophy. I want to know why you think he is such a fantastic head coach (I am not talking about DC so don't give me any of that crap).

So far your answer is: "This is his team, the players play for HIM. They bought into his system and love it, if the players like it, I like it."

Guess what buddy? Its been that way for three years but it sure has not brought us any trophies yet. Now come on dig down deep, think real hard and tell me something about Wade that you think is fantastic and going to win us a super bowl. How is it going to be different with him all the sudden next year?
because he cares about the players, the players care about him. He is the best defensive mind in FOOTBALL, better than Rex Ryan. Much better. Wade has build Spencer and Jenkins, who could he build next year? I am anxious to see.

Wade is our coach, and im dang proud to have him.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3248929 said:
Wade is our coach, and im dang proud to have him.
I second that motion. I don't care if he's rah rah or not, the players play for him and back him so i'm all for it. The thing is there are different kinds of head coaches and people always like the in your face disciplinarian coach, but that doesn't always work.

There are HCs that delegate the offense to the OC and the defense to the DC. Wade Phillips is more of a hands on HC that takes control of the defense while he delegates the offense to someone who is more knowledgeable of the offense. His use of his own expertise on defense was a smart choice. I think it is too often that a HC heads his team, specializes on one side of the ball and is well known for that side of the ball, and that side of the ball suffers (ie. Brian Billick was known as an offensive mind, but his offense sucked). The fact that Wade Phillip brought his brand of defense and succeed speaks volumes to how he can lead the team as a whole but still contribute his expertise.

In the end, Wade Phillips has a 33-15 record here with the first franchise playoff win since '96 and the first 3 consecutive winning seasons since '96. He's a success here, so people who wanna run him outta town are just plain dumb thinkin' there is someone out there that's better.
 

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utrunner07;3248909 said:
Well, IMO: *and this is just my opinion and by no means a fact.

Its going to be a tougher schedule
We were fairly lucky with injuries this year (as opposed to last year)
The O line will not be fixed in one season
I believe teams will and have started figuring out how to cover Austin
We still lack the drive and leadership and though sometimes we have it its not consistent
I worry about Brookings health and ability to keep being the main motivator of this team

With that being said there are upsides that I see next year

Romo will be better (even better)
Hopefully Garrett pulls his stuff together and figures things out
Maybe some of our back up LB come up big...

But in the end I don't see the team as is a legit threat to win it all mainly because they are still inconsistent and I don't see enough changing between now and then. They will most likely make the playoffs and if they win a game and don't get embarrassed like this year I will be fairly happy. We will not win the superbowl every year, I do expect this team to make the playoffs every year (anything less is a failure) and hopefully win a Superbowl on average every 5 years or so...long post but I think I answered your question.

I should say I would have and did call people crazy for predicting 11-5 this season, so what do I know.

Fair enough. I don't necessarily agree with a lot of your points, but I have no proof for anything I believe, so to each his own. I certainly see concern if injuries crop up, which is the case every year. We just have to hope for the best on that score, just like every team in the league. I frankly agree with your assessment that we should be making the playoffs every year and the Superbowl every few years. That's the way I felt with Tom Landry, and that's about how it worked out.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3248929 said:
because he cares about the players, the players care about him. He is the best defensive mind in FOOTBALL, better than Rex Ryan. Much better. Wade has build Spencer and Jenkins, who could he build next year? I am anxious to see.

Wade is our coach, and im dang proud to have him.

lol, you can not give me a reason he is a good head coach, pathetic.

How bout the next time you decide to spew some of your garbage you think for a minute and say can I really back this up or is this just wishful posting. If its the latter either don't post or come out and admit that it is wishful posting instead of stating it like its the gospel truth...
 

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utrunner07;3248972 said:
lol, you can not give me a reason he is a good head coach, pathetic.

How bout the next time you decide to spew some of your garbage you think for a minute and say can I really back this up or is this just wishful posting. If its the latter either don't post or come out and admit that it is wishful posting instead of stating it like its the gospel truth...

Everything I say you just disregard, arguing with you is like arguing with a wall, you don't listen.

I've said multiple reasons, He builds up players, he makes people better than they are, he brings in fantastic talent and coaches. he makes this team BETTER than what it is.
 

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CowboysPhan;3248943 said:
Fair enough. I don't necessarily agree with a lot of your points, but I have no proof for anything I believe, so to each his own. I certainly see concern if injuries crop up, which is the case every year. We just have to hope for the best on that score, just like every team in the league. I frankly agree with your assessment that we should be making the playoffs every year and the Superbowl every few years. That's the way I felt with Tom Landry, and that's about how it worked out.

Yeah, like I said it is certainly just and opinion and really just more of a slightly educated guess this far out and I have never been able to judge very well what this team will do in a season, but knowing this team and what is coming, I feel the safest bet is making the playoffs but not much more...hopefully others (Romo2Austin in all his crazed scribblings) are right...I just don't see how you can even expect to win the super bowl at this point...but maybe I would never go into a season expecting to win a super bowl, though I think with the early 90s teams we definitely did...yeah, there are some season I would go in expecting a superbowl, as for next season, it is not one, I will be satisfied with a solid playoff performance...<rambling over/>
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3248981 said:
Everything I say you just disregard, arguing with you is like arguing with a wall, you don't listen.

I've said multiple reasons, He builds up players, he makes people better than they are, he brings in fantastic talent and coaches. he makes this team BETTER than what it is.

I have argued with all the reasons you have said he was a good DC because that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about what Wade has in him as a HC that is going to get this team to the playoffs. Now, I like what you said here: he does bring in pretty dang good talent and coaches. I like that, that is a good reason IMO (though still a little weak to get us to the super bowl, but still thats MO). You can see where he did that this year and it was successful.

Now as far as building up players he does, but he also needs to kick some in the butt and right off the field, and that is something he does not do (whether that is him or Jerry is up for argument), and that is something a good HC would do.

Overall I do not agree that he makes a team better than it is. This team is very talented and simply based on their talent level they got to where they should, no further, no less. Wade did not hurt us, but in the end, as HC I do not believe he was good for a win or two through his coaching.

Personally I am indifferent to Wade being here, I do not think he will cost us games (like the Ginger comes close to doing) but I do not think he is good for a win or two like most great HCs. Thats just me though.

As far as the super bowl you seem to think its a pretty petty accomplishment if you are going to say that this team is going to win it all next year. Most likely with out significant change we will end up in a similar situation as this year. We had a lot of good things going for us this year and not much can get better over the period of one year. (Except perhaps for getting a HC that is good for a win or two or an OC that does not call pitch screens to the slowest back on the field, Anderson included)
 

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Terence Newman700;3248686 said:
Maybe...if Rat will agree...get a big NT...and move Rat too DE.....we will be much more of a better pass rushing team.....or just get another DE don't matter......

I wouldn't mind bringing in a young, large NT for a couple of reasons. First it would be good to get Rat some plays off - especially on first downs and the odd series. The second reason is that we would be much tougher to run on in short yardage situations if we had some 340 pound behemoth to put next to Ratliff. Third, we could put Rat in at DE every once in awhile to mix things up a bit more - move him next to Ware or Spencer to free them up a bit.

The other beneift is a fresher Ratliff would have more energy as a pass rusher in the nickel and would improve our 3rd down defense.

Finally, this defense could almost fall apart entirely if Rat gets injured because we wouldn't have anyone who could play the position full-time.

I wouldn't even mind bringing in an older guy who wanted a reduced role of say 30 snaps a game.
 

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Tweek the offencive line, figure out Barbers role and we have as good a shot as anyone. And better than most. Here's to 2010. The year we make contact...:starspin
 

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utrunner07;3248713 said:
When you are sun shine and flowers all the time, and chose to ignore obvious holes, people start tuning you out.

Most of know to tune out the so called realists who are upset about everything.

:laugh2:
 

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Dude, Relax. We have a long way to go and your are blowin the boards up. Hell the season isn't even completey finished.

Didn't you guarantee a win against the Vikings? Maybe your bad luck man.
 

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Guys, fate was just waiting for the 'Boys to play the superbowl in their own stadium next year is all.....2010 is OUR SEASON BABY!!!
 
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