2011 Sack Breakdown

[Doomsday]

Not sure if anyone has posted this article from bloggingthebeast.com but I found it pretty interesting and thought I would share it. Basically they broke down the 36 sacks Dallas gave up last season. According to the article, with video included, of the 36 total sacks, blame could be put directly on an offensive lineman on 27 of those sacks. Free and Smith were responsible for 15 of the 27, a trend that appears to be continuing this season. I have been crying about the offensive line for over 12 years and I refuse to stop until they fix it. We have had one of the best QBs in the league and he has been playing behind hot garbage year after year.

• Romo was sacked 11 times in 8 wins (1.375 per game) and 25 times in 8 losses (3.125). That’s a telling stat.
• Romo was sacked 8 times in Cowboys Stadium (1 per game) and 28 times in road games (3.5). There’s the home-field advantage that people complain about.

• Tyron Smith: 8
• Doug Free: 7
• Kyle Kosier: 3
• Phil Costa: 3
• Montrae Holland: 3
• Kevin Kowalski: 2
• Entire line: 1

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2012/06...y-my-count-tyron-smith-gave-up-a-team-high-8/

 

[Joshmil53]

I still want Holland back.

 

[gimmesix]

Not sure if anyone has posted this article from bloggingthebeast.com but I found it pretty interesting and thought I would share it. Basically they broke down the 36 sacks Dallas gave up last season. According to the article, with video included, of the 36 total sacks, blame could be put directly on an offensive lineman on 27 of those sacks. Free and Smith were responsible for 15 of the 27, a trend that appears to be continuing this season. I have been crying about the offensive line for over 12 years and I refuse to stop until they fix it. We have had one of the best QBs in the league and he has been playing behind hot garbage year after year.

• Romo was sacked 11 times in 8 wins (1.375 per game) and 25 times in 8 losses (3.125). That’s a telling stat.
• Romo was sacked 8 times in Cowboys Stadium (1 per game) and 28 times in road games (3.5). There’s the home-field advantage that people complain about.

• Tyron Smith: 8
• Doug Free: 7
• Kyle Kosier: 3
• Phil Costa: 3
• Montrae Holland: 3
• Kevin Kowalski: 2
• Entire line: 1

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2012/06...y-my-count-tyron-smith-gave-up-a-team-high-8/

Appreciate the post, but you do know that none of us can fix it, so why cry about it.

I prefer looking at stats like you posted (which is what I like about this post) instead of people complaining about something we A) have no control over and B) agree is a problem.

 

[Zordon]

oline is bad but good teams find a way to overcome their weaknesses. statistically the giants had the 2nd worst oline in football last year but still got it done.

 

[gimmesix]

oline is bad but good teams find a way to overcome their weaknesses. statistically the giants had the 2nd worst oline in football last year but still got it done.

In the end, though, it took all of the other aspects of the game playing well to do it. If their defense, in particular, hadn't got going, they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

It's a tough row to hoe if your offensive line is a weakness.

 

[Doomsday]

Appreciate the post, but you do know that none of us can fix it, so why cry about it.

I prefer looking at stats like you posted (which is what I like about this post) instead of people complaining about something we A) have no control over and B) agree is a problem.

Ive been asking myself that same question for a while now, I guess I just figure if enough people whine loud enough eventually some one will listen. It also just feels good to vent your frustrations.

I guess my biggest point is that there is a lot of talk about Dez and Romo and I think people are over looking the real issue.

oline is bad but good teams find a way to overcome their weaknesses. statistically the giants had the 2nd worst oline in football last year but still got it done.

To me that is on the coaching staff, they should know a lot better then anyone else where those weaknesses are, yet JG has not been able to do so. Not sure asking Witten, after not practicing much for 5 weeks to block JPP is what I would call adjusting. It is the same stupidity we saw in 2009 vs Minnesota in the playoffs when he tried to put him on Jared Allen.

 

[Hoofbite]

In the end, though, it took all of the other aspects of the game playing well to do it. If their defense, in particular, hadn't got going, they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

It's a tough row to hoe if your offensive line is a weakness.

Damn straight.

They wouldn't have made it out of Green Bay without that defense and if somehow they would have managed to get by, they damn sure wouldn't have made it out of San Fran if the defense would have let San Fran open up any sort of decent lead. They hit Eli 19 times, had they been up by more than 7 points at any given time, the 9ers probably would have just sent the house every down and mailed Eli's body back to New York.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Not sure if anyone has posted this article from bloggingthebeast.com but I found it pretty interesting and thought I would share it. Basically they broke down the 36 sacks Dallas gave up last season. According to the article, with video included, of the 36 total sacks, blame could be put directly on an offensive lineman on 27 of those sacks. Free and Smith were responsible for 15 of the 27, a trend that appears to be continuing this season. I have been crying about the offensive line for over 12 years and I refuse to stop until they fix it. We have had one of the best QBs in the league and he has been playing behind hot garbage year after year.

• Romo was sacked 11 times in 8 wins (1.375 per game) and 25 times in 8 losses (3.125). That’s a telling stat.
• Romo was sacked 8 times in Cowboys Stadium (1 per game) and 28 times in road games (3.5). There’s the home-field advantage that people complain about.

• Tyron Smith: 8
• Doug Free: 7
• Kyle Kosier: 3
• Phil Costa: 3
• Montrae Holland: 3
• Kevin Kowalski: 2
• Entire line: 1

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2012/06...y-my-count-tyron-smith-gave-up-a-team-high-8/

Nice post but I just want to point one thing out. You say you basically won't rest until they address the line. But you also say that the areas where the most trouble has come from has been both tackle positions. Well, to be fair, if there is one thing they have addressed on the line, it has been the tackle positions. They spent a top 10 pick on Smith, spent a 4th rounder on Free and spent years developing him and then signed him to an extension after he showed promise. I would call that adequately addressing the tackle positions. It seems like the areas they haven't adequately addressed (the interior) have given up the least amount of sacks.

 

[Doomsday]

Nice post but I just want to point one thing out. You say you basically won't rest until they address the line. But you also say that the areas where the most trouble has come from has been both tackle positions. Well, to be fair, if there is one thing they have addressed on the line, it has been the tackle positions. They spent a top 10 pick on Smith, spent a 4th rounder on Free and spent years developing him and then signed him to an extension after he showed promise. I would call that adequately addressing the tackle positions. It seems like the areas they haven't adequately addressed (the interior) have given up the least amount of sacks.

Nice post but I just want to point one thing out. You say you basically won't rest until they address the line. But you also say that the areas where the most trouble has come from has been both tackle positions. Well, to be fair, if there is one thing they have addressed on the line, it has been the tackle positions. They spent a top 10 pick on Smith, spent a 4th rounder on Free and spent years developing him and then signed him to an extension after he showed promise. I would call that adequately addressing the tackle positions. It seems like the areas they haven't adequately addressed (the interior) have given up the least amount of sacks.

Drafting a couple of guys (smith and Free) is not addressing the problem though, it runs a lot deeper than that. At some point you have to get to the root and figure out why you keep missing on linemen after linemen.

The interior has been the biggest reason why they struggle running the ball in short yardage and goal line situations. Plus center is the weakest position on the team even though it is the 2nd most important position on the offensive line.

To me Romo friendly starts with protecting him, none of the other stuff matters when the guy cant plant his feet and throw the ball.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Drafting a couple of guys (smith and Free) is not addressing the problem though, it runs a lot deeper than that. At some point you have to get to the root and figure out why you keep missing on linemen after linemen.

The interior has been the biggest reason why they struggle running the ball in short yardage and goal line situations. Plus center is the weakest position on the team even though it is the 2nd most important position on the offensive line.

To me Romo friendly starts with protecting him, none of the other stuff matters when the guy cant plant his feet and throw the ball.

Well, I agree the interior is an issue. I'm just saying sack numbers don't really illustrate the issue. According to sack numbers, our interior is pretty good. But I would say we've made the most effort to address the tackle positions, while making almost no effort to address the interior. What we really need is some consistency on the line. The elite lines have played together for years. We constantly want to ship guys out.

 

[Tabascocat]

Well, I agree the interior is an issue. I'm just saying sack numbers don't really illustrate the issue. According to sack numbers, our interior is pretty good. But I would say we've made the most effort to address the tackle positions, while making almost no effort to address the interior. What we really need is some consistency on the line. The elite lines have played together for years. We constantly want to ship guys out.

Those numbers are misleading a bit though. I read somewhere that 70% of all the sacks come from the ends. So, the tackles will be the ones who give up the most sacks on all teams. I will try to find the article tomorrow.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Those numbers are misleading a bit though. I read somewhere that 70% of all the sacks come from the ends. So, the tackles will be the ones who give up the most sacks on all teams. I will try to find the article tomorrow.

Well, it makes sense. Most blitzes come from the edge so it's the tackle's job to block it. I'm just saying the OP was using the number of sacks to show how we have not addressed our O-line. And I was just saying I feel we've made as good an effort as anyone to address our tackles, while we've made probably the worst effort in the league to address our interior. However, the sack numbers don't show the whole story.

 

[Hoofbite]

Well, it makes sense. Most blitzes come from the edge so it's the tackle's job to block it. I'm just saying the OP was using the number of sacks to show how we have not addressed our O-line. And I was just saying I feel we've made as good an effort as anyone to address our tackles, while we've made probably the worst effort in the league to address our interior. However, the sack numbers don't show the whole story.

What, in your opinion, is the whole story?

 

[burmafrd]

How many times was Romo unable to step up in the pocket to avoid the rush from the ends because there WAS NO POCKET? Due to interior O line failure.

 

[Doomsday]

How many times was Romo unable to step up in the pocket to avoid the rush from the ends because there WAS NO POCKET? Due to interior O line failure.

That is a great point, I went back and looked at the sacks again and I would say say that about 5 of those 15 sacks that Free and Smith gave up the interior line didn't give him room to step up. The biggest thing that jumps out to me was just how quickly the tackles were getting beat, they barely got out of their stance on a few of those.

 

[Flinger]

That is a great point, I went back and looked at the sacks again and I would say say that about 5 of those 15 sacks that Free and Smith gave up the interior line didn't give him room to step up. The biggest thing that jumps out to me was just how quickly the tackles were getting beat, they barely got out of their stance on a few of those.

This year has absolutely nothing to do with last year. There is not a single player on the OL this year that played the same position there last year.

So, how many sacks has the OL given up this year. Both games are on the road. (I really don't know - I'm asking). Is it comparible to last year's road record (didn't they say 3.5 sacks per road game?)

 

[Doomsday]

This year has absolutely nothing to do with last year. There is not a single player on the OL this year that played the same position there last year.

So, how many sacks has the OL given up this year. Both games are on the road. (I really don't know - I'm asking). Is it comparible to last year's road record (didn't they say 3.5 sacks per road game?)

Free and Smith might be playing different positions but thus far the results have been the same, pressure off the edges. They have only given up 3 sacks so far, but there has been a lot of pressure on Romo.

 

[Flinger]

Free and Smith might be playing different positions but thus far the results have been the same, pressure off the edges. They have only given up 3 sacks so far, but there has been a lot of pressure on Romo.

I get that - but, it's still only 3 sacks in 2 games on the road. You have to assume there was a lot of pressure last year at 3.5 sacks per game.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

What, in your opinion, is the whole story?

The whole story is just that you can't look at individual sack numbers given up and expect to understand the pros and cons of the O-line. Just looking at the stat numbers, it makes it look like the interior is pretty good and the tackles are the problem. But, like someone else said, about 70% of sacks are given up by tackles because most blitzes are off the edge, and the fact that the interior line doesn't allow Romo to step up makes Romo more susceptible to getting sacked by an edge rusher. Overall, the quality of the O-line is a collective and it's hard to analyze the line individually.