2015 Salary cap number *Projected: $138.6m*

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Earlier in the yr there was a story that came out on PFT that was talking about the cap being atleast 145mil next yr and 160mil in 2016. In large part because of the new CBS thursday deal and Directv deals. The CBS deal went into effect this yr, but the revenue it generated with commercials and sales all of that wont take effect until 2015. Which is why some feel that 145mil might be on the lower end. Thats directv deal is a monster deal which revenue wont be in effect until 2016 for the nfl which is why the estimates are even larger then then 2014 jump and 2015 estimated jumps.

The NFL is more popular then ever and revenues are going through the roofs. This 50-50 split between owners and players is clearly on the players side. Im sure the owners arent too happy about that.

That being said i wouldnt be suprised if next yrs cap was closer to 150mil.
 

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Earlier in the yr there was a story that came out on PFT that was talking about the cap being atleast 145mil next yr and 160mil in 2016. In large part because of the new CBS thursday deal and Directv deals. The CBS deal went into effect this yr, but the revenue it generated with commercials and sales all of that wont take effect until 2015. Which is why some feel that 145mil might be on the lower end. Thats directv deal is a monster deal which revenue wont be in effect until 2016 for the nfl which is why the estimates are even larger then then 2014 jump and 2015 estimated jumps.

The NFL is more popular then ever and revenues are going through the roofs. This 50-50 split between owners and players is clearly on the players side. Im sure the owners arent too happy about that.

That being said i wouldnt be suprised if next yrs cap was closer to 150mil.

I'm by no means a cap guru, but I wonder what the significance of that increase really is. If the cap goes up for Dallas, it goes up for everyone else, too. So, relatively speaking, Dallas' cap position really wouldn't improve except that they have more cap on hand to cover their current roster. I think there is a cap floor, meaning every team has to spend at least a certain percentage of the available cap $$, so Dallas wouldn't really be any more competitive in the FA market. Am I right, or am I missing something in all this?
 

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Earlier in the yr there was a story that came out on PFT that was talking about the cap being atleast 145mil next yr and 160mil in 2016. In large part because of the new CBS thursday deal and Directv deals. The CBS deal went into effect this yr, but the revenue it generated with commercials and sales all of that wont take effect until 2015. Which is why some feel that 145mil might be on the lower end. Thats directv deal is a monster deal which revenue wont be in effect until 2016 for the nfl which is why the estimates are even larger then then 2014 jump and 2015 estimated jumps.

The NFL is more popular then ever and revenues are going through the roofs. This 50-50 split between owners and players is clearly on the players side. Im sure the owners arent too happy about that.

That being said i wouldnt be suprised if next yrs cap was closer to 150mil.

Clearly on the players side?
 

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I would not expect a free agency explosion. Teams will collude to keep veteran salaries down and only the foolhardy will spend big money.
 

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I'm by no means a cap guru, but I wonder what the significance of that increase really is. If the cap goes up for Dallas, it goes up for everyone else, too. So, relatively speaking, Dallas' cap position really wouldn't improve except that they have more cap on hand to cover their current roster. I think there is a cap floor, meaning every team has to spend at least a certain percentage of the available cap $$, so Dallas wouldn't really be any more competitive in the FA market. Am I right, or am I missing something in all this?

youre right and wrong. In theory all teams are on the same playing field. But not all owners have the same money Jerry has. Not every owner can write the checks jerry has. So just because the cap is a certain number not all owners are able to write them 20-30mil dollar checks of upfront money that Jerry can.
 

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youre right and wrong. In theory all teams are on the same playing field. But not all owners have the same money Jerry has. Not every owner can write the checks jerry has. So just because the cap is a certain number not all owners are able to write them 20-30mil dollar checks of upfront money that Jerry can.

OK, gotcha. Just out of curiosity, where does the cap floor come into play...don't all owners have to spend a certain percentage of the available cap each year. I can see where an owner like JJ, who will spend every available penny would have an advantage over an owner that only spends what he absolutely has to spend. Is there much difference between the cap floor and the cap ceiling, or am I wrong about the "floor" even existing?
 

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OK, gotcha. Just out of curiosity, where does the cap floor come into play...don't all owners have to spend a certain percentage of the available cap each year. I can see where an owner like JJ, who will spend every available penny would have an advantage over an owner that only spends what he absolutely has to spend. Is there much difference between the cap floor and the cap ceiling, or am I wrong about the "floor" even existing?

teams as a whole league have to spend that league floor over a 4 yr span. From 2013-2016 and 2017-2020. If its not met then owners have to pay what wasnt met to the players.
 

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Not worried about the cap or getting Dez signed long term. I do have concerns about DeMarco Murray. Do you really let a 2000 yard rusher walk? Convince me why an older AP is better than Murray. I know the difference is only 3 years but NFL running backs seem to age in dog years.
 

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teams as a whole league have to spend that league floor over a 4 yr span. From 2013-2016 and 2017-2020. If its not met then owners have to pay what wasnt met to the players.

Great. Thanks for the explanation.
 

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Not worried about the cap or getting Dez signed long term. I do have concerns about DeMarco Murray. Do you really let a 2000 yard rusher walk? Convince me why an older AP is better than Murray. I know the difference is only 3 years but NFL running backs seem to age in dog years.

Go over recent history to RBs and whats happened to them after teams working them into the ground in a single yr.

Eddie George
Jamal Lewis
Larry Johnson

These guys are the biggest reasons teams started going 2 back sets because 1 guy being used the way Murray is, is going to be damaged goods. And Dallas has already offered Murray a 4 yr deal. He wanted more. His days in Dallas are done after this yr. Heres a question for you, do you think Murray will have this kinda yr on another nfl team, or he a product of great blocking? He is avg 6 yrds before being touched last time they talked about that stat during a game.
 

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I'm by no means a cap guru, but I wonder what the significance of that increase really is. If the cap goes up for Dallas, it goes up for everyone else, too. So, relatively speaking, Dallas' cap position really wouldn't improve except that they have more cap on hand to cover their current roster. I think there is a cap floor, meaning every team has to spend at least a certain percentage of the available cap $$, so Dallas wouldn't really be any more competitive in the FA market. Am I right, or am I missing something in all this?
It's an advantage for teams that push the cap limits every year.
 

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Earlier in the yr there was a story that came out on PFT that was talking about the cap being atleast 145mil next yr and 160mil in 2016. In large part because of the new CBS thursday deal and Directv deals. The CBS deal went into effect this yr, but the revenue it generated with commercials and sales all of that wont take effect until 2015. Which is why some feel that 145mil might be on the lower end. Thats directv deal is a monster deal which revenue wont be in effect until 2016 for the nfl which is why the estimates are even larger then then 2014 jump and 2015 estimated jumps.

The NFL is more popular then ever and revenues are going through the roofs. This 50-50 split between owners and players is clearly on the players side. Im sure the owners arent too happy about that.

That being said i wouldnt be suprised if next yrs cap was closer to 150mil.

Increasing cap = people who complain about how we push $ into future years are, as always, wrong.
 

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youre right and wrong. In theory all teams are on the same playing field. But not all owners have the same money Jerry has. Not every owner can write the checks jerry has. So just because the cap is a certain number not all owners are able to write them 20-30mil dollar checks of upfront money that Jerry can.

I think the idea that not all owners could spend the same money as Jerry was correct under the OLD model, however, under the new CBA there is now a salary cap floor where teams need to spend 89% of the salary cap cumulatively over a running 4 year period.

In the first couple of years since the new CBA was signed you still saw big differences from team to team in spending, however, now that we are in year 3 (heading into year 4) the spending is balancing out.

League mandated / enforced parity in terms of cap spending will only be enforced.

As before, coaching and drafting will increasingly become the delta between teams winning and losing.
 

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I'm by no means a cap guru, but I wonder what the significance of that increase really is. If the cap goes up for Dallas, it goes up for everyone else, too. So, relatively speaking, Dallas' cap position really wouldn't improve except that they have more cap on hand to cover their current roster. I think there is a cap floor, meaning every team has to spend at least a certain percentage of the available cap $$, so Dallas wouldn't really be any more competitive in the FA market. Am I right, or am I missing something in all this?

True, all teams that plan to spend are helped by a cap increase. But the teams operating on the margin, like Dallas and a few others, are helped the most.
It looks like they're trying to get this cap thing in order. But those are famous last words...
 

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Earlier in the yr there was a story that came out on PFT that was talking about the cap being atleast 145mil next yr and 160mil in 2016. In large part because of the new CBS thursday deal and Directv deals. The CBS deal went into effect this yr, but the revenue it generated with commercials and sales all of that wont take effect until 2015. Which is why some feel that 145mil might be on the lower end. Thats directv deal is a monster deal which revenue wont be in effect until 2016 for the nfl which is why the estimates are even larger then then 2014 jump and 2015 estimated jumps.

The NFL is more popular then ever and revenues are going through the roofs. This 50-50 split between owners and players is clearly on the players side. Im sure the owners arent too happy about that.

That being said i wouldnt be suprised if next yrs cap was closer to 150mil.
In regards to the Cowboys, my concern is that they give money to the right free agents. I'm not concerned about the cap itself.

Once they give money to a FA like Carr, they'll end up with that player for awhile.

IMO, they rushed into signing Carr. I'm always Leery of a CB without elite speed.
 

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I think the idea that not all owners could spend the same money as Jerry was correct under the OLD model, however, under the new CBA there is now a salary cap floor where teams need to spend 89% of the salary cap cumulatively over a running 4 year period.

In the first couple of years since the new CBA was signed you still saw big differences from team to team in spending, however, now that we are in year 3 (heading into year 4) the spending is balancing out.

League mandated / enforced parity in terms of cap spending will only be enforced.

As before, coaching and drafting will increasingly become the delta between teams winning and losing.
With bonus money and they way contracts are structured there is a bigger gap what the top spending teams spend and what the bottom spender spend than it appears based on the cap floor rules.
 

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I think the idea that not all owners could spend the same money as Jerry was correct under the OLD model, however, under the new CBA there is now a salary cap floor where teams need to spend 89% of the salary cap cumulatively over a running 4 year period.

In the first couple of years since the new CBA was signed you still saw big differences from team to team in spending, however, now that we are in year 3 (heading into year 4) the spending is balancing out.

League mandated / enforced parity in terms of cap spending will only be enforced.

As before, coaching and drafting will increasingly become the delta between teams winning and losing.

There is no way teams like the Raiders Bengals Jags Bills Bucs can spend enough to reach that cap floor. Next yr the there will be atleast 5 teams with over 40mil in cap room. Only thing thats going to happen is owners are going to have to cut a check for the cap not used to players. The owners arent going to police themselves and fine themselves for being greedy.
 

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True, all teams that plan to spend are helped by a cap increase. But the teams operating on the margin, like Dallas and a few others, are helped the most.
It looks like they're trying to get this cap thing in order. But those are famous last words...

Very true regarding teams such as Dallas that operate on the margin, which is where I was trying to go (not very clearly) with my comment regarding the increase in cap space helping with the current roster. In the big picture, though, how much will the expected cap increase help in terms of making them more competitive in the FA market? This defense is going to need help in a lot of areas, and the sooner, the better...Romo is not getting any younger/healthier!
 
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