2016 NFL Draft Big Board 1.0

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2016 NFL Draft Big Board 1.0
February 8, 2016 10:03 AM By Jeff Cavanaugh


Some people like to do Big Boards leading up the the NFL Draft that include 32 guys since there are usually 32 picks in the first round. This year, there are only 31 because the Patriots are cheaters (allegedly? Do I have to say that? They got punished, so I’ll call them cheaters). I’ve studied about 120 players in this draft class so far (with @BryanBroaddus and @ktfuntweets), so my first big board is just going to be comprised of the 17 players that I have first round grades on at this point in the process.

Note: This is not necessarily the order that I would pick them in. For instance, I have Noah Spence ahead of Joey Bosa, but I don’t know that I’d pick them in that order because of scheme fit. I have Ezekiel Elliott as the 3rd best talent in the draft but positional value of RB means I may not take him in the top 5. I have Jared Goff as the 7th best player but I’d absolutely take him with the #4 pick if I were Dallas because of positional value of QB.


1 – Myles Jack – UCLA LB – I can’t think of a LB prospect that I’ve seen that has the physical abilities that Jack does. Some point to his production numbers as a possible knock on him, but what he is asked to do on that defense isn’t conducive to 100+ tackle seasons. He can outrun RBs, cover WRs and shed OL with power . Tough to block on the move. His ceiling is sky high.

2 – Laremy Tunsil – Ole Miss OT – He’s just a rock solid all-around step in starter at LT for whoever takes him. Able to generate power in the run game despite them setting up in a 2 point stance. Gets away from the line well, strong base, technically sound.


3 – Ezekiel Elliott – Ohio State RB – Zeke has everything you want in a RB. Combination of speed/power, vision, make ’em miss ability. It’s all there. He’s an outstanding blocker and shows natural hands out of the backfield. For a guy his size I was surprised by his lateral ability to make guys miss in tight spaces.

4 – Noah Spence – Eastern Kentucky DE – The best pass rusher in this draft class. Spence has the bend that can be the difference between a great athlete and a great pass rusher. Ability to win around the corner and inside once the OT across from him is worried about his speed. Impressive instant acceleration and closing burst to get to the ball carrier. Motor that doesn’t stop. Might be at his best in a Von Miller type role in a 3-4 where he can rush off the edge from a stand up spot. Not the sort of run stopper you’ll get from Joey Bosa or Shaq Lawson, but his ability to get the QB is outstanding.


5 – Laquon Treadwell – Ole Miss WR – Don’t need a lot of words for this one. If you told me the guy wearing his uniform was Dez Bryant, I’d almost believe you. The tape, the strengths and weaknesses, they’re the same player. Would like to see him develop as a route runner, but his ability to high point the ball, catch the contested ball, work after the catch with power etc. all compares to #88.

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I think this is one of the guys that was on the last senior bowl show with Broaddus.
 

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Spence played in 12 games as a true freshman at Ohio State in 2012 and had 12 tackles and one sack. As a sophomore in 2013, he started 13 games and recorded 50 tackles and 8 sacks. On January 1, 2014 he was suspended for the three games, which included the Orange Bowl and the first two games of 2014, after testing positive for ecstasy. In September 2014, Spence was suspended indefinitely after another failed drug test. He was ruled permanently ineligible by the Big Ten in November.


I know for some this is not a big deal for me it is when talking a 4th overall pick
 

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Spence played in 12 games as a true freshman at Ohio State in 2012 and had 12 tackles and one sack. As a sophomore in 2013, he started 13 games and recorded 50 tackles and 8 sacks. On January 1, 2014 he was suspended for the three games, which included the Orange Bowl and the first two games of 2014, after testing positive for ecstasy. In September 2014, Spence was suspended indefinitely after another failed drug test. He was ruled permanently ineligible by the Big Ten in November.


I know for some this is not a big deal for me it is when talking a 4th overall pick

I think the Cowboys will see it that way also.
 

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Spence played in 12 games as a true freshman at Ohio State in 2012 and had 12 tackles and one sack. As a sophomore in 2013, he started 13 games and recorded 50 tackles and 8 sacks. On January 1, 2014 he was suspended for the three games, which included the Orange Bowl and the first two games of 2014, after testing positive for ecstasy. In September 2014, Spence was suspended indefinitely after another failed drug test. He was ruled permanently ineligible by the Big Ten in November.


I know for some this is not a big deal for me it is when talking a 4th overall pick

You no Von Miller was in trouble for drugs and was also suspended. Look at him now. Football is not for choir boys. Especially defense.
 

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You no Von Miller was in trouble for drugs and was also suspended. Look at him now. Football is not for choir boys. Especially defense.

I'm tired of the "this is not choir boy BS" players getting suspended affect the team. I don't expect choir boys I also do not like getting players you can't trust will even be on the field because they are too fricken stupid. Injuries no one can do anything about but a players action can be controlled. I'm not asking any player offense or defense to be a saint what I am asking them to do is be responsible and accountable to their team, their action do not just impact them it impacts 53 other players on a team who depend on you.
 

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I'm tired of the "this is not choir boy BS" players getting suspended affect the team. I don't expect choir boys I also do not like getting players you can't trust will even be on the field because they are too fricken stupid. Injuries no one can do anything about but a players action can be controlled. I'm not asking any player offense or defense to be a saint what I am asking them to do is be responsible and accountable to their team, their action do not just impact them it impacts 53 other players on a team who depend on you.

I hear you but are defense is full of nice guys. Carr, Lee, Golden cock, Crawford, ect. Scandrick is are best corner and he got caught with "Molly". Denver has bunch of " dogs" man. They come to hunt.
 

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I hear you but are defense is full of nice guys. Carr, Lee, Golden cock, Crawford, ect. Scandrick is are best corner and he got caught with "Molly". Denver has bunch of " dogs" man. They come to hunt.

Sorry not buying that Von Miller is a nice guy off the field as is Ware. You don't have to be a thug to play in the NFL. I want guys who are passionate about the game willing to put in the work and time. Not asking anyone to be saints but stupid get you beat and guys getting themselves suspended cost teams.
 

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I'm tired of the "this is not choir boy BS" players getting suspended affect the team. I don't expect choir boys I also do not like getting players you can't trust will even be on the field because they are too fricken stupid. Injuries no one can do anything about but a players action can be controlled. I'm not asking any player offense or defense to be a saint what I am asking them to do is be responsible and accountable to their team, their action do not just impact them it impacts 53 other players on a team who depend on you.

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You no Von Miller was in trouble for drugs and was also suspended. Look at him now. Football is not for choir boys. Especially defense.

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Everyone knows these are kids and kids make mistakes and we aren't looking for choir boys. But with the 4th pick you can't take that kind of risk. Different story if he is there got the next pick but 4 is just too risky to me and I think he can really play
 

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Sorry not buying that Von Miller is a nice guy off the field as is Ware. You don't have to be a thug to play in the NFL. I want guys who are passionate about the game willing to put in the work and time. Not asking anyone to be saints but stupid get you beat and guys getting themselves suspended cost teams.

The Bengals know that all too well
 

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Sorry not buying that Von Miller is a nice guy off the field as is Ware. You don't have to be a thug to play in the NFL. I want guys who are passionate about the game willing to put in the work and time. Not asking anyone to be saints but stupid get you beat and guys getting themselves suspended cost teams.
Like the player
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Everyone knows these are kids and kids make mistakes and we aren't looking for choir boys. But with the 4th pick you can't take that kind of risk. Different story if he is there got the next pick but 4 is just too risky to me and I think he can really play
Doomsday, this a tough draft to figure out. Who are your favorites at the moment? Conner what about you?
 

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Spence played in 12 games as a true freshman at Ohio State in 2012 and had 12 tackles and one sack. As a sophomore in 2013, he started 13 games and recorded 50 tackles and 8 sacks. On January 1, 2014 he was suspended for the three games, which included the Orange Bowl and the first two games of 2014, after testing positive for ecstasy. In September 2014, Spence was suspended indefinitely after another failed drug test. He was ruled permanently ineligible by the Big Ten in November.


I know for some this is not a big deal for me it is when talking a 4th overall pick

If I'm Dallas and they aren't interested in Wentz then I would look to move out or just select Noah Spence.

I just can't buy into this Myles Jack hype.

Guys who are some of the best in the NFL at that position are not worth a top 5 pick.

He needs to be a HOFer to validate picking a 4-3 LB with that pick.
 

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If I'm Dallas and they aren't interested in Wentz then I would look to move out or just select Noah Spence.

I just can't buy into this Myles Jack hype.

Guys who are some of the best in the NFL at that position are not worth a top 5 pick.

He needs to be a HOFer to validate picking a 4-3 LB with that pick.

Arent you a bpa guy? If Jack is the best stick to your method.
 

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Doomsday, this a tough draft to figure out. Who are your favorites at the moment? Conner what about you?

Depends on position
I really think Wentz can be a very good QB and would love to get him
If no QB at 4 I think a DT would really help this defense and there are several really nice DT prospects and you could trade back a few spots and get one of them
To me you really need a QB but if it can't be done then you go to the trenches on the defensive side
 

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If I'm Dallas and they aren't interested in Wentz then I would look to move out or just select Noah Spence.

I just can't buy into this Myles Jack hype.

Guys who are some of the best in the NFL at that position are not worth a top 5 pick.

He needs to be a HOFer to validate picking a 4-3 LB with that pick.

I agree . A LB is not worth a top ten pick for this defense.
 

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If I'm Dallas and they aren't interested in Wentz then I would look to move out or just select Noah Spence.

I just can't buy into this Myles Jack hype.

Guys who are some of the best in the NFL at that position are not worth a top 5 pick.

He needs to be a HOFer to validate picking a 4-3 LB with that pick.

Or like Kuechley his game translates to multiple styles of defence. Jack is a pure 4-3 player to me. Id only consider an LB that high if I run a hybrid to where guys with that versitilty are rare
 

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Everyone knows these are kids and kids make mistakes and we aren't looking for choir boys. But with the 4th pick you can't take that kind of risk. Different story if he is there got the next pick but 4 is just too risky to me and I think he can really play

Exactly, well said. Would of been a sure bet Top 5 pick if it weren't for the drugs.
 
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