****2017 Mel Kiper Jr. Invitational Grades****

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The grading scale used....
A+ ....8.00 and up
A ......7.35 - 7.99
A- .....7.30 - 7.34
B+ ....7.15 - 7.29
B ......6.90 - 7.14
B- .....6.80 - 6.89
C+ ....6.60 - 6.79
C ......6.15 - 6.59
C- ....6.00 - 6.14
D+ ....5.80 - 5.99
D ......5.50 - 5.79
D- ....5.40 - 5.49
F ......5.39 and lower

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The 2017 Mel Kiper Jr. Invitational Champion: L-O-Jete, GM of the San Francisco 49ers.
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Biggest steal was Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford, 44th overall to the New Orleans Saints (DK30)

Others receiving votes were: Montravius Adams DT Auburn (109th to Arizona - Vero_F250), Tre'Davious White CB LSU (48th to Indianapolis - RandyOh), Dalvin Cook RB Florida St. (16th to Baltimore - Alexander), Derek Rivers DE Youngstown St. (111th to Indianapolis - RandyOh), Quincy Wilson CB Florida (45th to Arizona - Vero_F250), Joe Mixon RB Oklahoma (78th to Indianapolis - RandyOh), Budda Baker S Washington (40th to Carolina - DBOY3141), Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia (94th to Pittsburgh - garrett316), Howard Wilson CB Houston (114th to Tennessee - tm1119), ArDarius Stewart WR Alabama (117th to Detroit - DFWJC).

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Biggest reach was Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova, 63rd overall to the Atlanta Falcons (Floaty)

Others receiving votes were: Marlon Humphrey CB Alabama (7th to L.A. Chargers - MichaelWinicki), Taylor Moton T Western Michigan (47th to CowboysZone), Deshaun Watson QB Clemson (13th to Arizona - Vero_F250), Duke Riley OLB LSU (64th to New England - Trouty), Patrick Mahomes QB Texas Tech (57th to Houston - Cogan), Eddie Vanderdoes DT UCLA (116th to Denver - Oh_Canada), Jabrill Peppers S Michigan (19th to Tampa Bay - sureletsrace), Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina (3rd to Chicago - Killerinstinct).

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Grades

1) San Francisco 49ers (L-O-Jete)
1(11) Mike Williams WR Clemson
2(34) Charles Harris DE Missouri
3(74) Carlos Watkins DT Clemson
3(96) Bucky Hodges TE Virginia Tech
4(98) Brad Kaaya QB Miami
4(127) Marlon Mack RB South Florida
Added 2018 1st Round Pick (New Orleans)
Added 2018 2nd Round Pick (New England)

Remaining Selections - 6(161), 6(178), 7(191), 7(192)

Original Selections - 1(2), 2(34), 3(66), 4(98), 5(130), 6(161), 6(178), 7(191), 7(192)


Total Score: 268.0
High Score of: 10
Low Score of: 6
Average: 8.64

Grade: A+

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2) Philadelphia Eagles (Risen Star)
1(14) Corey Davis WR Western Michigan
2(42) Alvin Kamara RB Tennessee
3(75) Gerald Everett TE South Alabama
4(108) Jordan Willis DE Kansas St.

Remaining Selections - 5(138), 6(170), 7(202)

Original Selections - 1(14), 2(42), 3(75), 4(108), 5(138), 6(170), 7(202)


Total Score: 241.5
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 5
Average: 7.79

Grade: A

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3) Tennessee Titans (tm1119)
1(5) Jamal Adams S LSU
1(18) O.J. Howard TE Alabama
3(84) Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado
3(95) Chad Hansen WR California
4(100) Larry Ogunjobi DT Charlotte
4(114) Howard Wilson CB Houston

Remaining Selections - 5(147), 7(208)

Original Selections - 1(5), 1(18), 3(69), 3(84), 4(114), 5(147), 7(208)


Total Score: 237.0
High Score of: 10
Low Score of: 5
Average: 7.64

Grade: A

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3) Jacksonville Jaguars (Plankton)
1(4) Malik Hooker S Ohio St.
2(35) Forrest Lamp G Western Kentucky
3(68) Chris Wormley DT Michigan
4(99) Kevin King CB Washington

Remaining Selections - 5(132), 6(162), 7(194)

Original Selections - 1(4), 2(35), 3(68), 4(99), 5(132), 6(162), 7(194)


Total Score: 237.0
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 6
Average: 7.64

Grade: A

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5) Carolina Panthers (DBOY3141)
1(8) Solomon Thomas DE Stanford
2(40) Budda Baker S Washington
3(72) Antonio Garcia T Troy
4(104) Josh Jones S North Carolina St.

Remaining Selections - 5(136), 6(167), 7(205)

Original Selections - 1(8), 2(40), 3(72), 4(104), 5(136), 6(167), 7(205)


Total Score: 233.5
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 5
Average: 7.53

Grade: A

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6) Pittsburgh Steelers (garrett316)
1(30) Haason Reddick OLB Temple
2(62) Jake Butt TE Michigan
3(94) Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia
4(125) Jeremy McNichols RB Boise St.

Remaining Selections - 5(157), 6(188), 7(220)

Original Selections - 1(30), 2(62), 3(94), 4(125), 5(157), 6(188), 7(220)


Total Score: 228.0
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 5
Average: 7.36

Grade: A

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7) Cleveland Browns (unionjack8)
1(1) Myles Garrett DE Texas A&M
1(12) Teez Tabor CB Florida
2(33) Caleb Brantley DT Florida
2(51) Obi Melifonwu S Connecticut
3(65) Pat Elflein C Ohio St.
4(97) Taywan Taylor WR Western Kentucky

Remaining Selections - 5(129), 5(159), 6(160)

Original Selections - 1(1), 1(12), 2(33), 2(51), 3(65), 4(97), 5(129), 5(159), 6(160)


Total Score: 225.75
High Score of: 10
Low Score of: 5
Average: 7.29

Grade: B+

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8) Cincinnati Bengals (Questfor6)
1(9) Reuben Foster ILB Alabama
2(41) DeMarcus Walker DE Florida St.
3(73) Dawuane Smoot DE Illinois
4(105) Fabian Moreau CB UCLA

Remaining Selections - 5(137), 6(168), 7(199)

Original Selections - 1(9), 2(41), 3(73), 4(105), 5(137), 6(168), 7(199)


Total Score: 223.75
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 6
Average: 7.21

Grade: B+

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9) Indianapolis Colts (RandyOh)
1(15) Ryan Ramczyk T Wisconsin
2(48) Tre'Davious White CB LSU
3(78) Joe Mixon RB Oklahoma
4(111) Derek Rivers DE Youngstown St.

Remaining Selections - 5(144), 6(173)

Original Selections - 1(15), 2(48), 3(78), 4(111), 5(144), 6(173)


Total Score: 217.0
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 2
Average: 7.00

Grade: B

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10) Detroit Lions (DFWJC)
1(21) Taco Charlton DE Michigan
2(53) Gareon Conley CB Ohio St.
3(85) D'Onta Foreman RB Texas
4(117) ArDarius Stewart WR Alabama

Remaining Selections - 5(149), 6(180), 7(211)

Original Selections - 1(21), 2(53), 3(85), 4(117), 5(149), 6(180), 7(211)


Total Score: 214.75
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.93

Grade: B

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10) Arizona Cardinals (Vero_F250)
1(13) Deshaun Watson QB Clemson
2(45) Quincy Wilson CB Florida
3(77) JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC
4(109) Montravius Adams DT Auburn

Remaining Selections - 5(141), 6(172), 7(203)

Original Selections - 1(13), 2(45), 3(77), 4(109), 5(141), 6(172), 7(203)


Total Score: 214.75
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.93

Grade: B

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12) New York Jets (hipfake08)
1(6) Leonard Fournette RB LSU
2(39) Adoree' Jackson CB USC
3(70) Ethan Pocic C LSU

Remaining Selections - 5(134), 6(166), 7(196)

Original Selections - 1(6), 2(39), 3(70), 5(134), 6(166), 7(196)


Total Score: 210.75
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.80

Grade: B-

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13) Buffalo Bills (Yuma Cactus)
1(10) Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio St.
2(43) Carl Lawson DE Auburn
3(76) Isaiah Ford WR Virginia Tech

Remaining Selections - 5(139), 5(155), 6(171)

Original Selections - 1(10), 2(43), 3(76), 5(139), 5(155), 6(171)


Total Score: 208.25
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.71

Grade: C+

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13) Dallas Cowboys (Chris In Arizona)
1(28) Takkarist McKinley DE UCLA
2(60) Curtis Samuel WR Ohio St.
3(92) Justin Evans S Texas A&M
4(123) Adam Bisnowaty T Pittsburgh

Remaining Selections - 6(186), 7(200), 7(218)

Original Selections - 1(28), 2(60), 3(92), 4(123), 6(186), 7(200), 7(218)


Total Score: 208.25
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.71

Grade: C+

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13) Baltimore Ravens (Alexander)
1(16) Dalvin Cook RB Florida St.
2(46) T.J. Watt OLB Wisconsin
3(79) Carlos Henderson WR Louisiana Tech
4(112) Elijah Lee OLB Kansas St.

Remaining Selections - 5(142), 6(174), 7(206)

Original Selections - 1(16), 2(46), 3(79), 4(112), 5(142), 6(174), 7(206)


Total Score: 208.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.71

Grade: C+

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16) Washington Commanders (gmoney112)
1(17) Malik McDowell DT Michigan St.
2(49) Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio St.
3(81) Marcus Maye S Florida
4(103) Chris Godwin WR Penn St.
4(113) Tyus Bowser OLB Houston

Remaining Selections - 5(140), 5(145), 6(176), 6(184), 7(207)

Original Selections - 1(17), 2(49), 3(81), 4(103), 4(113), 5(140), 5(145), 6(176), 6(184), 7(207)


Total Score: 204.5
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.60

Grade: C+

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17) Chicago Bears (Killerinstinct)
1(3) Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina
1(31) John Ross WR Washington
3(69) Dion Dawkins T Temple
4(106) Jordan Leggett TE Clemson

Remaining Selections - 5(131), 7(193)

Original Selections - 1(3), 2(36), 3(67), 4(100), 4(106), 5(131), 7(193)


Total Score: 202.5
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.53

Grade: C

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18) Denver Broncos (Oh_Canada)
1(20) David Njoku TE Miami
2(50) Dorian Johnson G Pittsburgh
3(83) Malachi Dupre WR LSU
4(116) Eddie Vanderdoes DT UCLA

Remaining Selections - 6(179), 7(210)

Original Selections - 1(20), 2(50), 3(83), 4(116), 6(179), 7(210)


Total Score: 200.5
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.47

Grade: C

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19) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (sureletsrace)
1(19) Jabrill Peppers S Michigan
2(52) Tarell Basham DE Ohio
3(82) Amara Darboh WR Michigan
4(115) Jon Toth C Kentucky

Remaining Selections - 5(148), 6(177), 7(209)

Original Selections - 1(19), 2(52), 3(82), 4(115), 5(148), 6(177), 7(209)


Total Score: 192.25
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 3
Average: 6.20

Grade: C

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19) Houston Texans (Cogan)
1(25) Garett Bolles T Utah
2(57) Patrick Mahomes QB Texas Tech
3(89) Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
4(120) Damontae Kazee CB San Diego St.

Remaining Selections - 5(153), 6(163), 7(215)

Original Selections - 1(25), 2(57), 3(89), 4(120), 5(153), 6(163), 7(215)


Total Score: 192.25
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 3
Average: 6.20

Grade: C

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19) Seattle Seahawks (coult44)
1(26) Sidney Jones CB Washington
2(58) Roderick Johnson T Florida St.
3(90) Elijah Qualls DT Washington

Remaining Selections - 6(185), 7(198), 7(216)

Original Selections - 1(26), 2(58), 3(90), 6(185), 7(198), 7(216)


Total Score: 192.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.20

Grade: C

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19) Miami Dolphins (CowboysZone)
1(22) Derek Barnett DE Tennessee
2(54) Ryan Anderson OLB Alabama

Remaining Selections - 5(150), 6(181), 7(212)

Original Selections - 1(22), 2(54), 5(150), 6(181), 7(212)


Total Score: 192.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.20

Grade: C

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19) Green Bay Packers (Big D)
1(29) Tim Williams OLB Alabama
2(61) Cameron Sutton CB Tennessee
3(93) Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama
4(124) Marquez White CB Florida St.

Remaining Selections - 5(156), 6(187), 7(219)

Original Selections - 1(29), 2(61), 3(93), 4(124), 5(156), 6(187), 7(219)


Total Score: 192.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.20

Grade: C

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24) Oakland Raiders (ABQCOWBOY)
1(24) Zach Cunningham OLB Vanderbilt
2(56) Cordrea Tankersley CB Clemson
3(88) Vincent Taylor DT Oklahoma St.
4(119) Julie'n Davenport T Bucknell

Remaining Selections - 5(152), 6(183), 7(214)

Original Selections - 1(24), 2(56), 3(88), 4(119), 5(152), 6(183), 7(214)


Total Score: 190.25
High Score of: 9
Low Score of: 5
Average: 6.13

Grade: C-

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25) Los Angeles Chargers (MichaelWinicki)
1(7) Marlon Humphrey CB Alabama
2(38) Jarrad Davis OLB Florida
3(71) Davon Godchaux DT LSU
4(102) Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma

Remaining Selections - 5(135), 6(165), 7(197)

Original Selections - 1(7), 2(38), 3(71), 4(102), 5(135), 6(165), 7(197)


Total Score: 188.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.07

Grade: C-

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25) Atlanta Falcons (Floaty)
2(36) Dan Feeney G Indiana
2(63) Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova
3(67) Zay Jones WR East Carolina
4(126) Jarron Jones DT Notre Dame

Remaining Selections - 5(158), 6(189), 7(221)

Original Selections - 1(31), 2(63), 3(95), 4(126), 5(158), 6(189), 7(221)


Total Score: 188.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.07

Grade: C-

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25) Kansas City Chiefs (Teague31)
1(27) DeShone Kizer QB Notre Dame
2(59) Jourdan Lewis CB Michigan
3(91) Dede Westbrook WR Oklahoma
4(122) John Johnson S Boston College

Remaining Selections - 5(154), 7(217)

Original Selections - 1(27), 2(59), 3(91), 4(122), 5(154), 7(217)


Total Score: 188.25
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 4
Average: 6.07

Grade: C-

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28) New Orleans Saints (DK30)
1(2) Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
2(44) Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
4(107) Eddie Jackson S Alabama
Lost 2018 1st Round Pick (San Francisco)

Remaining Selections - 5(13), 6(169), 7(201)

Original Selections - 1(11), 2(44), 3(74), 4(107), 6(169), 7(201)


Total Score: 184.0
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 1
Average: 5.93

Grade: D+

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29) New York Giants (McLovin)
1(23) Cam Robinson T Alabama
2(55) Evan Engram TE Mississippi
3(87) Kendell Beckwith ILB LSU
4(128) Jalen Reeves-Maybin OLB Tennessee

Remaining Selections - 5(151), 6(182), 7(213)

Original Selections - 1(23), 2(55), 3(87), 4(128), 5(151), 6(182), 7(213)


Total Score: 177.75
High Score of: 7
Low Score of: 3
Average: 5.73

Grade: D

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30) New England Patriots (Trouty)
1(32) Desmond King CB Iowa
2(64) Duke Riley OLB LSU
3(96) Marcus Williams S Utah
4(121) Isaac Asiata G Utah
Lost 2018 2nd Round Pick (San Francisco)

Remaining Selections - 5(146), 6(190), 7(222)

Original Selections - 1(32), 2(64), 3(96), 4(121), 4(127), 5(146), 6(190), 7(222)


Total Score: 175.0
High Score of: 8
Low Score of: 3
Average: 5.64

Grade: D

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31) Minnesota Vikings (CowboysZone)
2(47) Taylor Moton T Western Michigan
3(80) Wayne Gallman RB Clemson
3(86) Jaleel Johnson DT Iowa
4(110) Alex Anzalone ILB Florida
4(118) Kyle Fuller C Baylor

Remaining Selections - 5(143), 6(175), 7(204)

Original Selections - 2(47), 3(80), 3(86), 4(110), 4(118), 5(143), 6(175), 7(204)


Total Score: 159.0
High Score of: 7
Low Score of: 3
Average: 5.13

Grade: F

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32) Los Angeles Rams (CowboysZone)
2(37) Cooper Kupp WR Eastern Washington
4(101) Nico Siragusa G San Diego St.

Remaining Selections - 5(133), 6(164), 7(195)

Original Selections - 2(37), 4(101), 5(133), 6(164), 7(195)


Total Score: 157.0
High Score of: 7
Low Score of: 1
Average: 5.06

Grade: F
 

tm1119

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49ers should give 1/2 of the imaginary trophy to the Saints...kidding, the trade was a no brainer but 9ers still made a bunch of good picks

Still cracks me up with how harsh people apparently grade though. Kinda weird when most of the top 10 received at least 1 5 grade vote. I think I gave out 1 or 2 4's and maybe 3 or 4 5's total
 

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I guess the Riley pick and trade in the third is what probably killed me. Thanks again, Risen, for all your hard work :)

Congrats @L-O-Jete! Heck of a draft, brudda!
 

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49ers should give 1/2 of the imaginary trophy to the Saints...kidding, the trade was a no brainer but 9ers still made a bunch of good picks

Still cracks me up with how harsh people apparently grade though. Kinda weird when most of the top 10 received at least 1 5 grade vote. I think I gave out 1 or 2 4's and maybe 3 or 4 5's total

But if you think about a grade 5 is "Average" and that being the case, most grades handed out should be a 5. Yeah some 6's & 4's will be handed out... But to clock a 7 a draft would have to really rock, likewise a 3 would have to represent a very poor draft.
 

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I didn't grade anyone higher than nine, nor anyone below 5, myself, Michael.

Oh I think many do the same...

I just don't think it's the right way of looking at it.

To me a "9" draft would be like the Cowboy's "Dirty Dozen" draft of '75.
 

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Oh I think many do the same...

I just don't think it's the right way of looking at it.

To me a "9" draft would be like the Cowboy's "Dirty Dozen" draft of '75.

I agree. It's really hard to grade the teams at this point, as well. But we can't wait for three years to grade these drafts, as JC has said many times.

Most of the grades I handed out ranged from 6-7.5 with a few 8's and one 9, not using any metric other than how the GMs did against each other. Which I think is the point.

It's all good, I beat CowboysZone, so in my head I beat 30k+ members :)
 
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Only a B!
J/k

It was fun guys. We'll check back in and see how we really did in a year or two.

Thanks again Risen!
 
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This thread will also be fun to revisit once the draft happens. Do we do this, Risen?
 

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lol i knew my pick of Mixon was gonna piss off one in not a few of the other GM's.
 

Alexander

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Did you guys see how bad Alexander did?

LOL. Embarrassing.
If anyone ever took the time to accurately grade you instead of sucking up and giving you the A for the effort, you'd be embarrassed too.

All kidding aside, I deserved it. I wasn't around to make the 2nd round pick.

But I still have last year.

Congrats on taking the silver though. Think of it like having a bunch of Pro Bowlers and a bye week win.
 

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Thank you all especially Risen for this.
Though I must admit I think the fix is in...
How did we get 31 grades when we didn't get GM's for all 32 teams?
Could we hold, aside from the 2018 Kiper Invitational, a Kiper'17 cont. Where I get to use the extra picks I got?
 

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lol i knew my pick of Mixon was gonna piss off one in not a few of the other GM's.
I (Cowboys) would have taken Mixon in the 4th of the Kiper. Kid is a talent who made a dumb, dumb mistake at 18. I would hope that I wouldn't lose an employment opportunity over the stupid things I did when I was 18.
 

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I accumulate all the grades given each year, average that score out, multiply by 31 and that's the total score. It doesn't effect the results one way or the other just the total score.
 

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I (Cowboys) would have taken Mixon in the 4th of the Kiper. Kid is a talent who made a dumb, dumb mistake at 18. I would hope that I wouldn't lose an employment opportunity over the stupid things I did when I was 18.

I'd have easily taken that risk in the 3rd round had I not taken a RB in round 2.
 
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