2020 Draft Redo. What if

[TheMarathonContinues]

heck yes, any GM would take Hurts over Dak. Hurts got his team all the way to the SB and almost won . Dak never sniffed it in 8 years. Enough of the dak delusion

I didn’t say what would any other GM would do. You don’t speak for a GMs and neither do I. You made the comment we would’ve been in the SB by now if we had Hurts and I’m trying to figure out how you come to that conclusion when he’s sucked every year he’s been in the league except last year when his stats look eerily similar to Daks rookie season stats?

 

[mcmvp]

I didn’t say what would any other GM would do. You don’t speak for a GMs and neither do I. You made the comment we would’ve been in the SB by now if we had Hurts and I’m trying to figure out how you come to that conclusion when he’s sucked every year he’s been in the league except last year when his stats look eerily similar to Daks rookie season stats?

The stats may be similar, but the similarities end there. Any one that knows the first thing about football realizes that defenses went into each Cowboy game focused entirely on Zeke. The offense ran through him and the QB was along for the ride.

The Eagles offense runs through Hurts. He is the decision maker on every play. A play can go 1 of 3 ways when he gets the call from the sidelines. It’s only a good play if Hurts makes the correct decisions pre and post snap.

Zeke and the oline made that Cowboys offense go. Where Hurts and the oline allowed Miles Sanders to get his new deal.

Stats only tell part of the story. You have to ask yourself who the defense was primarily focused on.

Yes, defenses are concerned about AJ Brown and Devonta Smith, but you are kidding yourself if you think they’re worried about them more than they are about Hurts. Their whole offense is predicated on his running ability and decision making. It would be 100% easier to defend those receivers if he was not doing his job the way he was

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The stats may be similar, but the similarities end there. Any one that knows the first thing about football realizes that defenses went into each Cowboy game focused entirely on Zeke. The offense ran through him and the QB was along for the ride.

The Eagles offense runs through Hurts. He is the decision maker on every play. A play can go 1 of 3 ways when he gets the call from the sidelines. It’s only a good play if Hurts makes the correct decisions pre and post snap.

Zeke and the oline made that Cowboys offense go. Where Hurts and the oline allowed Miles Sanders to get his new deal.

Stats only tell part of the story. You have to ask yourself who the defense was primarily focused on.

Yes, defenses are concerned about AJ Brown and Devonta Smith, but you are kidding yourself if you think they’re worried about them more than they are about Hurts. Their whole offense is predicated on his running ability and decision making. It would be 100% easier to defend those receivers if he was not doing his job the way he was

So you think teams don’t game plan for Devonta Smith, AJ Brown or Goedert? Interesting lol. It’s all Hurts? Did you watch the catches Devonta and Brown made last year? Arguably the best duo in the league but I’m missing myself thinking teams game planned for them lol?

But I’ll play this game. Let’s say you’re right. That everything is on Hurts and his legs. Moore has shown he doesn’t run the football with his running backs so how does Hurts do what he did there under Moore?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Philly better hope like heck that defensive coordinators haven’t figured out that funky offense they ran last season because everything they do starts with Hurts ability to run the ball. Because he was such a threat to run, that changed the coverage significantly, making some really clean open windows for Hurts to throw in. Without that threat of Hurts taking off, the passing lanes would constrict, the coverage would be different and it would be much more difficult to find WR’s running free through the secondary.

Not only did the threat of a run make the coverage different, but it was efficient in keeping the chains moving, which wore out opposing defenses. It also kept the Philly defense off the field, keeping them fresh. Plus, because Hurts running kept the Philly offense on the field, they scored early and often, which put pressure on the opposing offense to score a lot… which allowed Philly’s defense to tee off on the QB, who was having to throw to keep up, giving the Eagles a ton of chances to get sacks.

So yeah, if DC’s figured out a way to play that wonky offense, it will literally change just about everything for Philly on both sides of the ball. Maybe they didn’t figure it out… but defenses usually do given a whole summer.

Like I said… Philly better hope they haven’t because they will regret that contract they just gave Hurts.

GREAT post.

 

[mcmvp]

So you think teams don’t game plan for Devonta Smith, AJ Brown or Goedert? Interesting lol. It’s all Hurts? Did you watch the catches Devonta and Brown made last year? Arguably the best duo in the league but I’m missing myself thinking teams game planned for them lol?

But I’ll play this game. Let’s say you’re right. That everything is on Hurts and his legs. Moore has shown he doesn’t run the football with his running backs so how does Hurts do what he did there under Moore?

You know darn well what I meant…you’re just trying to be difficult. There is game planning for every player to some degree… some more than others. Even Dak was game planned for after some film was out during that rookie year. But again, as I’m sure you were already aware, that was not my point. The point is who is the defense’s #1 priority? It was always Zeke during those early Dak years.

As for what Moore would or wouldn’t do with Hurts, I don’t have the first clue. But I think it’s a little bit premature to assume that he wouldn’t use Jalen that way. Your only sample size is with Moore coaching 2 less than mobile QBs..

 

[CWR]

At present, Hurts is Cam Newton, a 1 year wonder. No, Cam was never more than OK aside from his one superman year. Look it up.

Isn't it funny how QBs look good w/ stacked teams?

Rg3 was the next big thing also. Wentz even had a nice season before injury. This crap happens often. I remember thinking how talented Kap was when he first got to start. I didn't last long.

These guys put out film and d coordinators learn tendencies, strengths, and weaknesses and adjust.
Currently Hurts has to prove he can adjust.

I will say out of the 4 guys I have in recent memory Hurts is the highest character, and hardest working imo. He does have a real chance to be a fine qb sustained. Still, he has to prove it another year at least.

 

[CWR]

The stats may be similar, but the similarities end there. Any one that knows the first thing about football realizes that defenses went into each Cowboy game focused entirely on Zeke. The offense ran through him and the QB was along for the ride.

The Eagles offense runs through Hurts. He is the decision maker on every play. A play can go 1 of 3 ways when he gets the call from the sidelines. It’s only a good play if Hurts makes the correct decisions pre and post snap.

Zeke and the oline made that Cowboys offense go. Where Hurts and the oline allowed Miles Sanders to get his new deal.

Stats only tell part of the story. You have to ask yourself who the defense was primarily focused on.

Yes, defenses are concerned about AJ Brown and Devonta Smith, but you are kidding yourself if you think they’re worried about them more than they are about Hurts. Their whole offense is predicated on his running ability and decision making. It would be 100% easier to defend those receivers if he was not doing his job the way he was

Zeke hasn't been an effective focal point for at least 3 years. D coordinators weren't losing sleep over him after 2018-19. Cmon man. I bet you thought he sucked while he was here, but now what? Lol

 

[mcmvp]

Zeke hasn't been an effective focal point for at least 3 years. D coordinators weren't losing sleep over him after 2018-19. Cmon man. I bet you thought he sucked while he was here, but now what? Lol

You realize we were specifically talking about Dak’s rookie year, right?

 

[CWR]

You realize we were specifically talking about Dak’s rookie year, right?

I did see that after posting. My apologies.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Philly better hope like heck that defensive coordinators haven’t figured out that funky offense they ran last season because everything they do starts with Hurts ability to run the ball. Because he was such a threat to run, that changed the coverage significantly, making some really clean open windows for Hurts to throw in. Without that threat of Hurts taking off, the passing lanes would constrict, the coverage would be different and it would be much more difficult to find WR’s running free through the secondary.

Not only did the threat of a run make the coverage different, but it was efficient in keeping the chains moving, which wore out opposing defenses. It also kept the Philly defense off the field, keeping them fresh. Plus, because Hurts running kept the Philly offense on the field, they scored early and often, which put pressure on the opposing offense to score a lot… which allowed Philly’s defense to tee off on the QB, who was having to throw to keep up, giving the Eagles a ton of chances to get sacks.

So yeah, if DC’s figured out a way to play that wonky offense, it will literally change just about everything for Philly on both sides of the ball. Maybe they didn’t figure it out… but defenses usually do given a whole summer.

Like I said… Philly better hope they haven’t because they will regret that contract they just gave Hurts.

I think Phi will regret the contract in a few years, but he will be successful until he gets hurt. He is a really powerful athlete but 15 on the wonderlic is Mo Clay Vince young dumb.

Fun fact. Marino, Bradshaw and Kelly scored 15

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I hate these draft re-dos because I just dwell on what COULD have been.

I mean sure, we all SAY this will finally be the year we finally win a divisional playoff game for first time in a quarter of a century, but imagine if we HAD drafted Hurts and Jefferson: we would be saying it AND actually believing it too!

 

[kskboys]

Rg3 was the next big thing also. Wentz even had a nice season before injury. This crap happens often. I remember thinking how talented Kap was when he first got to start. I didn't last long.

These guys put out film and d coordinators learn tendencies, strengths, and weaknesses and adjust.
Currently Hurts has to prove he can adjust.

I will say out of the 4 guys I have in recent memory Hurts is the highest character, and hardest working imo. He does have a real chance to be a fine qb sustained. Still, he has to prove it another year at least.

Kap was only OK for one year.

RGIII was pretty good for one year. No, not near as great as they made him out to be. Same w/ Hurts. When you look inside the numbers, Hurts was good, but not anywhere near as phenomenal as people are claiming.

No, I don't believe all GMs in the NFL would take Hurts over Dak. Prolly be split, as Dak is a much better passer than Hurts at this point.

 

[basel90]

I didn’t say what would any other GM would do. You don’t speak for a GMs and neither do I. You made the comment we would’ve been in the SB by now if we had Hurts and I’m trying to figure out how you come to that conclusion when he’s sucked every year he’s been in the league except last year when his stats look eerily similar to Daks rookie season stats?

not sure I follow what you’re saying . Hurts is a genuine dual threat QB who clearly improved last year and took his team to the SB . Dak had a good rookie season behind the best OL and Running game in the NFL and never came close to a SB , and folded at almost every game against good teams . Moreover , If the cowboys had selected hurts and dumped Dak we would have saved a bunch of cap room to actually help the team . We are now stuck with a declining and expensive Dak . There is no other way to put it .

 

[Swagger]

not sure I follow what you’re saying . Hurts is a genuine dual threat QB who clearly improved last year and took his team to the SB . Dak had a good rookie season behind the best OL and Running game in the NFL and never came close to a SB , and folded at almost every game against good teams . Moreover , If the cowboys had selected hurts and dumped Dak we would have saved a bunch of cap room to actually help the team . We are now stuck with a declining and expensive Dak . There is no other way to put it .

Game, set and match!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hu

not sure I follow what you’re saying . Hurts is a genuine dual threat QB who clearly improved last year and took his team to the SB . Dak had a good rookie season behind the best OL and Running game in the NFL and never came close to a SB , and folded at almost every game against good teams . Moreover , If the cowboys had selected hurts and dumped Dak we would have saved a bunch of cap room to actually help the team . We are now stuck with a declining and expensive Dak . There is no other way to put it .

Huh? Hurts just signed a 250 million dollar deal and Dak has a year left on his desk how would you save money lol?

Dak his rookie year threw to Dez Bryant who was almost done and Witten who would retire because he was so finished…meanwhile Hurts has Dallas,Devonta and Brown….hahaha yeah that’s the same…:

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Game, set and match!

Y’all have to be the same person no one in their right mind would agree with that post especially a football fan.

 

[basel90]

Hu

Huh? Hurts just signed a 250 million dollar deal and Dak has a year left on his desk how would you save money lol?

Dak his rookie year threw to Dez Bryant who was almost done and Witten who would retire because he was so finished…meanwhile Hurts has Dallas,Devonta and Brown….hahaha yeah that’s the same…:

A QB who plays like hurts and actually takes a team to the SB in 2 years is worth 50 mil a year .
Dak wants 50 mil without doing any of that in 8 years . It is a simple fact . it is a results oriented game . You seem to be blinded by the Dak nice guy excuses , ignoring the results . He is not that guy .

 

[basel90]

Y’all have to be the same person no one in their right mind would agree with that post especially a football fan.

Do you need a napkin ?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

A QB who plays like hurts and actually takes a team to the SB in 2 years is worth 50 mil a year .
Dak wants 50 mil without doing any of that in 8 years . It is a simple fact . it is a results oriented game . You seem to be blinded by the Dak nice guy excuses , ignoring the results . He is not that guy .

I'm not blinded by anything. I never said Dak sucks or he's top 5 or any of that. I just call out the ridiculousness I see on this site in regards to Dak. It's just moronic. Now you just said had we drafted Hurts we would've saved money despite Hurts sucking every year he's been in the league except last year. Some of y'all aren't capable of having a Dak discussion. Some aren't qualified.

 

[Typhus]

Dallas selected:

Jefferson over Lamb
Hurts over Diggs
Gallimore
Gabe Davis over Robinson

Wr was a need. I think we can agree JJ was the pick.

Diggs has the pedigree, size and athleticism to cover anyone. He has played very well.
If Hurts was the pick, would he have taken the QB1 job during the ankle or thumb injuries?
Would you be happier paying Hurts or Dak an albatross contract?
Team would have a hole at CB1 potentially right now. Or they would have missed on Parsons bc they would have been pressed to move up in Draft.

DT was a need. Gallimore was the pick can't really second guess this one.

Gabe Davis. This could have solved the Gallup situation completely.

Jerry has been investing Billions into time travel machine for over decades now.