2023 projected starting OLine

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This is set .....for now but what about when Tyron misses X number of games.

Tyler Smith, ????, Biadasz, Martin, Steele ( ????? = draft pick or free agent vet? )


With the loss of Connor McGovern to the Bills and the fragility of Tyron Smith, I will not be surprised to see us take an OL early in this draft. The depth of good RBs in this draft may allow us to take a good one on Day 2. I’ve seen a couple of NFL beat writers say the Cowboys are interested in TCU guard Steve Avila who is thunderous off the snap.
 

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Fans seem to forget Josh Ross and Matt Waletzko at OT. Appears team still hopes Ross can be a swing OT although IMO he looks more like a bust and to tall for OG. Waletzko had some good things and probably would have gone higher in the draft if not the shoulder problem. All reports on him is that surgery was very successful and he is now stronger and quicker. As to Ross, it is a make or break training camp for him. He was dominant in college and if he regains that form that is a huge plus and gives options on the line.

There were those "experts" during last year training camp that thought he had a chance to beat out Steele for RT. Could be interesting to see how they view him in training camp.

Another forgotten soul is Issac Alarcon who has been around now 4 years. He played OT and OG in camp and few months ago the "experts" believed that he could be the 2023 starting LG. At 6'7" and 320, seems to be a bit tall but maybe not. Seen comments and heard on some of the talking heads on radio that he is looking like a guy to watch in training camp. If so, nothing but good news for the OL.

Best case for the Boys, Waletzko is the player they thought and can start or be a swing OT, Alarcon is the dominant guy in training camp and wins the LG spot and becomes the hopefully long term solution at LG.

Be nice to see the starting OL be Smith, Alarcon, Biadasz, Martin, Steele with Tyron, Waletzko, Farniok (OG/OC), draft pick OG/OC.
The problem is Tyron. Now in his first 10 years he was truly reliable; only one season was there a real problem.
(Well the real problem was the typical clown show lack of due diligence in having a good swing tackle)
So it is not beyond the bounds of reason to see him have a season where he actually plays most of the games.
Risky, but you have to take some risks to win (clown show always blow their risky moves, though)

Frankly those you mentioned are not likely at all to become competent starters; at best decent backups.

As regards Martin, he should still have several more years of excellent play. Guards can last a very long time in the NFL.

Biadazz really took a big step last year. He is now a competent starter. He needs to take another real step to be one we want to keep long term.

Steele is a very good run blocker and decent pass blocker; I think he probably has reached his limit. You can win with him.

Tyler had some rough times last year but its clear he is the future at LT. Just have to hope its at least a Pro Bowl level because you need that anymore in the NFL at LT to really contend.

LG is the problem; Tyler there is only a temporary solution

Now if the clown show has one of its two brain cells clicking they get a very good guard prospect this draft
 

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This is set .....for now but what about when Tyron misses X number of games.

Tyler Smith, ????, Biadasz, Martin, Steele ( ????? = draft pick or free agent vet? )


No chance Tyron plays close to 17 games and I don't love the in-house guys, so I think both a vet and a draft pick. Pick up a $2ish million vet and then also draft an OG.
 

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This is set .....for now but what about when Tyron misses X number of games.

Tyler Smith, ????, Biadasz, Martin, Steele ( ????? = draft pick or free agent vet? )


Sorry but I am all for Dallas doing what they need to do to draft OG O'Cyrus Torrence out of Florida...6' 5" 347 pound mauler who gave up only 1 sack in his 4-year career which accounted for over 3,000 offensive snaps.

He would be a plug-and-play LG which allows Tyler Smith to play the LT spot where he should be playing and relegating Tyron Smith to a backup role given his injury history. With Tyron Smith most likely being gone after this season and Zack Martin turning 33 during the season, Dallas needs to look at rebuilding the OL.
 

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This is set .....for now but what about when Tyron misses X number of games.

Tyler Smith, ????, Biadasz, Martin, Steele ( ????? = draft pick or free agent vet? )


Won’t start like that and we all know Tyron is going down.

Steele is missing games and will be rusty for sure. I bet we never see that line combo.

And even if we did it’s still not good enough.
 

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I believe they need to get a mauling gaurd in free agency or the first 3 rds of the draft. So in week 2 when Tyron is on IR Tyler can go back to LT where he belongs and the rookie can step in at LG. I’d be happy if Tyron was the swing tackle. To think of him as a starting LT at this point is ridiculous.
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Sorry but I am all for Dallas doing what they need to do to draft OG O'Cyrus Torrence out of Florida...6' 5" 347 pound mauler who gave up only 1 sack in his 4-year career which accounted for over 3,000 offensive snaps.

He would be a plug-and-play LG which allows Tyler Smith to play the LT spot where he should be playing and relegating Tyron Smith to a backup role given his injury history. With Tyron Smith most likely being gone after this season and Zack Martin turning 33 during the season, Dallas needs to look at rebuilding the OL.
THIS!!!!!!

Nailed it!!!!!

This is how you most improve the offense for now and the future. You want to win SBs? Do this!
 

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Am I missing something because I think there's too much optimism that Steele plays week 1 or early on in that first quarter of the season

I'm thinking more along the lines of

LT: Tyler Smith, Josh Ball
LG: ???, ???
C: Tyler Biadaz, Matt Farinok
RG: Zack Martin
RT: Tyron Smith, Matt Waletzko

Pup: Terence Stelle
 

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Fans seem to forget Josh Ross and Matt Waletzko at OT. Appears team still hopes Ross can be a swing OT although IMO he looks more like a bust and to tall for OG. Waletzko had some good things and probably would have gone higher in the draft if not the shoulder problem. All reports on him is that surgery was very successful and he is now stronger and quicker. As to Ross, it is a make or break training camp for him. He was dominant in college and if he regains that form that is a huge plus and gives options on the line.

There were those "experts" during last year training camp that thought he had a chance to beat out Steele for RT. Could be interesting to see how they view him in training camp.

Another forgotten soul is Issac Alarcon who has been around now 4 years. He played OT and OG in camp and few months ago the "experts" believed that he could be the 2023 starting LG. At 6'7" and 320, seems to be a bit tall but maybe not. Seen comments and heard on some of the talking heads on radio that he is looking like a guy to watch in training camp. If so, nothing but good news for the OL.

Best case for the Boys, Waletzko is the player they thought and can start or be a swing OT, Alarcon is the dominant guy in training camp and wins the LG spot and becomes the hopefully long term solution at LG.

Be nice to see the starting OL be Smith, Alarcon, Biadasz, Martin, Steele with Tyron, Waletzko, Farniok (OG/OC), draft pick OG/OC.
Who can forget about Josh Ross?
 

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Am I missing something because I think there's too much optimism that Steele plays week 1 or early on in that first quarter of the season

I'm thinking more along the lines of

LT: Tyler Smith, Josh Ball
LG: ???, ???
C: Tyler Biadaz, Matt Farinok
RG: Zack Martin
RT: Tyron Smith, Matt Waletzko

Pup: Terence Stelle
Every report is saying Steele will be back by training camp. Don’t see anything or anyone that is doubting that.

Could be wrong but based on all that’s being said he should be good to go during camp let alone week 1.
 

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Sorry but I am all for Dallas doing what they need to do to draft OG O'Cyrus Torrence out of Florida...6' 5" 347 pound mauler who gave up only 1 sack in his 4-year career which accounted for over 3,000 offensive snaps.

He would be a plug-and-play LG which allows Tyler Smith to play the LT spot where he should be playing and relegating Tyron Smith to a backup role given his injury history. With Tyron Smith most likely being gone after this season and Zack Martin turning 33 during the season, Dallas needs to look at rebuilding the OL.
Yea must say I agree with this 100%........plug this kid in at LG, Tyler back to LT and Tyron Smith is our swing.
 

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Healthy? Lol

He’s not elite anymore.
At LT? I dont know who you can be certain about that. When healthy in '21 & playing consitantly at LT he was playing at elite level.

We haven't seem him heathy at LT for a while now.

That said, I like Tyler in the spot going forward.
 

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I've beaten the drums for Tyler Smith since we drafted him, and I'm one of Tyler's biggest fans of him at LT. Leave him there so he can grow into the position. He is a Pro Bowl starter in the making, and maybe an All-NFL or two is in his future. Go out and sign a proper left guard for this team (Jerry, Issac Seamalo is out there and he played LG before the Eagles drafted Dickerson and moved him to RG--Jerry???).

We have a chance to have Tyler Smith and Steele develop together and be bookend tackles for the next ten years.

LT--Tyler Smith
LG--Issac Seamalo
C--Biadasz
RG--Martin
RT--Steele

Backups/swing: Tyron Smith, Farniok, Waletzko.

I have very little doubt that this line could be top 5 in the NFL.
 

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this line needs to improve to protect Dak more and make less mistakes, it only needs one pick in the draft to improve and if the cowboys sign OBJ the offense would be much better, this would be my ideal lineup.

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: O'Cyrus Torrence (Draft)
C: Tyler Biadaz
RG: Zack Martin
RT: Tyron Smith

Pup: Terence Stelle

to infinity and beyond....
 
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