2025 Salary Cap space and dead money for all 32 teams

[Hawkeye0202]

49'ers sure have a lot of "dead" money. Hope they suck this year!! LOL

It appears they are going to rebuild around Purdy.......its a little surprising they are bringing McCaffrey back.


https://www.49ers.com/news/lynch-delivers-offseason-injury-updates-mccaffrey-williams-and-aiyuk

 

[CWR]

How the Eagles are managing to give Barkley and Baun new contracts and maintain $19 million in CP space is some voodoo magic. The pushed $21 million from Barkley's contract into 2027, a voidable year. They already have a ton of money in voidable years for 2027. Baun just got $17 million per year on a 3 years deal and I will be a lot of that is pushed into voidable years in 2028. The Eagles are mortgaging their future big time.

Its was around 350 million in void year money last I saw. No black magic, just being aggressive and accepting the bill later. Which is worth it when you win championships.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I'd love one that showed void year money spent as well. The Eagles have a ridiculous amount of money there. Thats how they are able to navigate the cap as well as they have.

All true but the Super Bowl win gives them 3-4 years' worth of rope to reset. They won a Super Bowl....that's every team's goal. You will not hear me bashing the Eagles ..........they are where I wanna be.

 

[zrinkill]

The Eagles are mortgaging their future big time.

Been hearing that since Donovan McNabb was selling soup and getting to Superbowls.

And it has not happened yet ........ 20 years later.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

just being aggressive and accepting the bill later. Which is worth it when you win championships.

Bingo!

 

[jazzcat22]

So KC is almost $3 million over. Somehow, I still see them signing top FA's more so than us.
Somehow they will come out on top.

 

[Creeper]

Been hearing that since Donovan McNabb was selling soup and getting to Superbowls.

And it has not happened yet ........ 20 years later.

Look at the numbers and tell me how they avoid a huge problem in 4 years. $177 million parked in voidable years, $97 million is for Hurts. They could cut Hurts or trade him, as I suggested they would, to avoid part of the problem, but even if the CAP goes up $100 million in the next 4 years they still have a problem. They have to let talent go at some point. Their only way to remain where they are is phenomenal drafting.

They let Slay go this year. I honestly think they made a mistake paying Barkley. You will see more I bet AJ Brown goes next. He is due option bonuses each year over the next 4. Lane Johnson will retire or get the same treatment. Goedert's contract is up after this year. I bet the Eagles draft a TE early this year to replace him. If they don't re-sign Goedert, they have $23 million in dead money against him next year.

If you look at the Eagles contracts there is no place to restructure. The only way to avoid their CAP problem is to release places to avoid paying roster bonuses.

Here are the players we're talking about:

Goedert, Johnson, Barkley, Gardner-Johnson, Hurts, Huff, DeVonta Smith, Dickerson, AJ Brown and Jake Ellios. They already dealt with Graham and Slay. Sweat, Becton, Bradberry, are free agents and account for $54 million in dead money this year.

What the Eagles do is pay player low annual salaries but build in option bonuses to get paid out each year. Once teh bonuses are paid out, the must take them against the CAP - pro-rated over 5 years. That allows them to look like they have a lot of CAP room now, but when all those option bonuses are paid out they pro-rate into voidable years on contracts. In some cases, like Branden Graham, those voidable years come when the player is old and ready for retirement, not a new long term deal.

 

[zrinkill]

Look at the numbers and tell me how they avoid a huge problem in 4 years. $177 million parked in voidable years, $97 million is for Hurts. They could cut Hurts or trade him, as I suggested they would, to avoid part of the problem, but even if the CAP goes up $100 million in the next 4 years they still have a problem. They have to let talent go at some point. Their only way to remain where they are is phenomenal drafting.

They let Slay go this year. I honestly think they made a mistake paying Barkley. You will see more I bet AJ Brown goes next. He is due option bonuses each year over the next 4. Lane Johnson will retire or get the same treatment. Goedert's contract is up after this year. I bet the Eagles draft a TE early this year to replace him. If they don't re-sign Goedert, they have $23 million in dead money against him next year.

If you look at the Eagles contracts there is no place to restructure. The only way to avoid their CAP problem is to release places to avoid paying roster bonuses.

Here are the players we're talking about:

Goedert, Johnson, Barkley, Gardner-Johnson, Hurts, Huff, DeVonta Smith, Dickerson, AJ Brown and Jake Ellios. They already dealt with Graham and Slay. Sweat, Becton, Bradberry, are free agents and account for $54 million in dead money this year.

What the Eagles do is pay player low annual salaries but build in option bonuses to get paid out each year. Once teh bonuses are paid out, the must take them against the CAP - pro-rated over 5 years. That allows them to look like they have a lot of CAP room now, but when all those option bonuses are paid out they pro-rate into voidable years on contracts. In some cases, like Branden Graham, those voidable years come when the player is old and ready for retirement, not a new long term deal.

Sorry you posted such a long reply ........ because I am just gonna say again ....... They did not get in trouble when they did this in early 2000's.

They did not get in trouble 8 years ago when they gave Wentz a hug contract and ending trading him a few years later.

They have not gotten in trouble or even slowed down when the gave Hurts a huge contract ....... they are better at this than Jerry and his band of stupid men.

And its not gonna change.

They will be in the Superbowl multiple times before we sniff one again.

 

[rambo2]

We're in the top 8. Surely there's room to make Dak a June 1st cut and move on now?

Lol

 

[Creeper]

I don't know what you mean by "get in trouble". No team that I can recall has ever failed to get under the CAP regardless of how far over the CAP they were prior to the start of a new season.

I believe the Saints were recently $86 million over the CAP and managed to get under in time.

That's not what anyone means when discussing the Eagles CAP situation. It means they cannot possibly retain all the players they have on their roster given their CAP problems.

And by the way, the Eagles were 4-11-1 in 2020 - not that long ago. They were 9-7 the two years prior to that and 9-8 in 2021. The 2024 team was loaded, but that is not sustainable.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Look at the numbers and tell me how they avoid a huge problem in 4 years. $177 million parked in voidable years, $97 million is for Hurts. They could cut Hurts or trade him, as I suggested they would, to avoid part of the problem, but even if the CAP goes up $100 million in the next 4 years they still have a problem. They have to let talent go at some point. Their only way to remain where they are is phenomenal drafting.

They let Slay go this year. I honestly think they made a mistake paying Barkley. You will see more I bet AJ Brown goes next. He is due option bonuses each year over the next 4. Lane Johnson will retire or get the same treatment. Goedert's contract is up after this year. I bet the Eagles draft a TE early this year to replace him. If they don't re-sign Goedert, they have $23 million in dead money against him next year.

If you look at the Eagles contracts there is no place to restructure. The only way to avoid their CAP problem is to release places to avoid paying roster bonuses.

Here are the players we're talking about:

Goedert, Johnson, Barkley, Gardner-Johnson, Hurts, Huff, DeVonta Smith, Dickerson, AJ Brown and Jake Ellios. They already dealt with Graham and Slay. Sweat, Becton, Bradberry, are free agents and account for $54 million in dead money this year.

What the Eagles do is pay player low annual salaries but build in option bonuses to get paid out each year. Once teh bonuses are paid out, the must take them against the CAP - pro-rated over 5 years. That allows them to look like they have a lot of CAP room now, but when all those option bonuses are paid out they pro-rate into voidable years on contracts. In some cases, like Branden Graham, those voidable years come when the player is old and ready for retirement, not a new long term deal.

But with the cap going up historic amounts, moving proration 5 years into the future means by the time it hits, it’ll only be 60-70% as damaging because it’s a much small % of the new cap number

It’s not just credit carding, it’s credit carding with ann interest rate that pays you back. Howie is effectively buying money

 

[KingCorcoran]

I don't know what you mean by "get in trouble". No team that I can recall has ever failed to get under the CAP regardless of how far over the CAP they were prior to the start of a new season.

I believe the Saints were recently $86 million over the CAP and managed to get under in time.

That's not what anyone means when discussing the Eagles CAP situation. It means they cannot possibly retain all the players they have on their roster given their CAP problems.

And by the way, the Eagles were 4-11-1 in 2020 - not that long ago. They were 9-7 the two years prior to that and 9-8 in 2021. The 2024 team was loaded, but that is not sustainable.

Who cares? They won a Super Bowl. Looks as if they are determined to win a second one giving them consecutive Super Bowl wins. And then, inevitably, the bill comes due, and some lean years follow. So what?

If success in the NFL is measured by how much future cap space a team has the Philadelphia Eagles are terrible. Does that make you feel good about the Cowboys?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The Steelers dead money is $45K? That's some fancy bookkeeping.

I think it’s the opposite. It’s bad bookeeping because it limits the Steelers to only building a team with today’s cap numbers. Everyone else is building their team with today and tomorrow’s cap

 

[zrinkill]

I don't know what you mean by "get in trouble". No team that I can recall has ever failed to get under the CAP regardless of how far over the CAP they were prior to the start of a new season.

I believe the Saints were recently $86 million over the CAP and managed to get under in time.

That's not what anyone means when discussing the Eagles CAP situation. It means they cannot possibly retain all the players they have on their roster given their CAP problems.

And by the way, the Eagles were 4-11-1 in 2020 - not that long ago. They were 9-7 the two years prior to that and 9-8 in 2021. The 2024 team was loaded, but that is not sustainable.

My point is that they bounce right back ......... and we are 30 years removed with a front office complaining about the cap every year.

 

[bottleKids]

How the Eagles are managing to give Barkley and Baun new contracts and maintain $19 million in CP space is some voodoo magic. The pushed $21 million from Barkley's contract into 2027, a voidable year. They already have a ton of money in voidable years for 2027. Baun just got $17 million per year on a 3 years deal and I will be a lot of that is pushed into voidable years in 2028. The Eagles are mortgaging their future big time.

We have been saying this since 2016 - meanwhile they went to 3 superbowls and won 2 all while mortgaging their future for the last decade. Jerry and son just aren't as good at it as Howie and other teams.

 

[sunalsorises]

I think it’s the opposite. It’s bad bookeeping because it limits the Steelers to only building a team with today’s cap numbers. Everyone else is building their team with today and tomorrow’s cap

I could be wrong but I thought dead money was money against the cap paid to guys no longer on the team. In effect, it is money that cannot be used in the present or in the future because it has been used in the past.

If this is correct, who did the Steelers cut owing only $45K to? That's not the league minimum and seems like such a paltry amount to be a bonus. It's like a player saved up his vacation time and took it as a bonus when he retired rather than use it to go on vacation.

 

[bottleKids]

I don't know what you mean by "get in trouble". No team that I can recall has ever failed to get under the CAP regardless of how far over the CAP they were prior to the start of a new season.

I believe the Saints were recently $86 million over the CAP and managed to get under in time.

That's not what anyone means when discussing the Eagles CAP situation. It means they cannot possibly retain all the players they have on their roster given their CAP problems.

And by the way, the Eagles were 4-11-1 in 2020 - not that long ago. They were 9-7 the two years prior to that and 9-8 in 2021. The 2024 team was loaded, but that is not sustainable.

Cool - I would take those 3 years if it led to 2 Superbowl rings in the last 30 years. Hell i am so jaded I would do it for 1 visit to a NFCCG

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I could be wrong but I thought dead money was money against the cap paid to guys no longer on the team. In effect, it is money that cannot be used in the present or in the future because it has been used in the past.

If this is correct, who did the Steelers cut owing only $45K to? That's not the league minimum and seems like such a paltry amount to be a bonus. It's like a player saved up his vacation time and took it as a bonus when he retired rather than use it to go on vacation.

Could have been a UDFA who they cut. You can give them tiny signing bonuses

 

[sunalsorises]

Could have been a UDFA who they cut. You can give them tiny signing bonuses

That makes sense.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How the Eagles are managing to give Barkley and Baun new contracts and maintain $19 million in CP space is some voodoo magic. The pushed $21 million from Barkley's contract into 2027, a voidable year. They already have a ton of money in voidable years for 2027. Baun just got $17 million per year on a 3 years deal and I will be a lot of that is pushed into voidable years in 2028. The Eagles are mortgaging their future big time.

They are. With all the young players they have on rookie deals I guess they are like they will worry about it later and win now. The same approach I would take honestly.