2nd round pick. since Jimmy Johnson left. BUST. BUST. BUST

[blueblood70]

Define bust. There's a lot of grey area with that label. For me at least. Tony Mandarich is the definition of a bust, imo. DeMarcus Lawrence was not a bust under any definition of the word.

Right way overreaction and dramatic to list many players that were solid and call them a bust..this is a no gray area zone dramatic both directions..

They get no like from me trying to sneak in good players on that list…

 

[Chocolate Lab]

We drafted Idi Amin?

 

[ShortRound]

List the GM / Coaches for those players. You're complaining about the wrong thing. IMHO.

 

[the playmaker]

Eze is a bust?

Calculate the percentage for BUST....and GOOD/great players....The draft isn't an exact science... but here, the percentages are below the average for a typical NFL GM.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Gotta keep it in context though. How is the rest of the league doing in round 2 and what are the expectations for a round 2 player?


Looking at the data only around 15-20% of 2nd rounders will ever make a pro bowl in their career. Only about 50% ever make it to be multi year starters. When you factor positional hit/bust rates that adds to the problem as well. Edge players in round 2 have pretty low hit rates and we’ve gone that direction many times. CBs taken in round 2 seem to get starting opportunities, but rarely thrive.

By that definition (I know that won’t be popular), but guys like Awuzie, Connor Williams, heck even Quincy Carter could be argued as good picks.

I think the issue we run into is thinking round 2 are auto starters/impact players. Thats what we hope for but really getting a good rotational player is often a round 2 win. This is also probably where we should be making more of a push for offensive linemen.

 

[Whyjerry]

2025	44°	Donovan Ezeiruaku	DE	Boston College
2024	56°	Marshawn Kneeland	DE	Western Michigan
2023	58°	Luke Schoonmaker	TE	Michigan
2022	56°	Sam Williams	DE	Mississippi
2021	44°	Kelvin Joseph	CB	Kentucky
2020	51°	Trevon Diggs	CB	Alabama
2019	58°	Trysten Hill	DT	Central Florida
2018	50°	Connor Williams	G	Texas
2017	60°	Chidobe Awuzie	CB	Colorado
2016	34°	Jaylon Smith	LB	Notre Dame
2015	60°	Randy Gregory	DE	Nebraska
2014	47°	DeMarcus Lawrence	DE	Boise State
2013	31° (59°)	Gavin Escobar	TE	San Diego State
2012	45°	Mike Jenkins	CB	South Florida
2011	40°	Bruce Carter	LB	North Carolina
2010	59°	Sean Lee	LB	Penn State
2009	—	Nessuna scelta al 2° giro	—	—
2008	61°	Martellus Bennett	TE	Texas A&M
2007	53°	James Marten	OT	Boston College
2006	53°	Anthony Fasano	TE	Notre Dame
2005	42°	Kevin Burnett	LB	Tennessee
2004	54°	Jacob Rodgers (Newhouse)	OT	Texas Christian
2003	55°	Al Johnson	C	Wisconsin
2002	37°	Antonio Bryant	WR	Pittsburgh
2002	41°	Andre Gurode	C/G	Colorado
2001	54°	Quincy Carter	QB	Georgia
2000	49°	Idi Amin	DT	—
1999	38°	Wayne Hamrick / Alonzo Spellman (etc.) — Mariano G.) / quant'altro	—	—
1998	60°	Ryan Lilja / Greg Ellis era 1° giro, etc.	—	—
1997	56°	Ebenezer Ekuban / etc.	—	—
1996	54°	Kavika Pittman	DE	UTEP

Wow. To see it like this is amazing. What a dumpster fire.

 

[blueblood70]

2025	44°	Donovan Ezeiruaku	DE	Boston College
2024	56°	Marshawn Kneeland	DE	Western Michigan
2023	58°	Luke Schoonmaker	TE	Michigan
2022	56°	Sam Williams	DE	Mississippi
2021	44°	Kelvin Joseph	CB	Kentucky
2020	51°	Trevon Diggs	CB	Alabama
2019	58°	Trysten Hill	DT	Central Florida
2018	50°	Connor Williams	G	Texas
2017	60°	Chidobe Awuzie	CB	Colorado
2016	34°	Jaylon Smith	LB	Notre Dame
2015	60°	Randy Gregory	DE	Nebraska
2014	47°	DeMarcus Lawrence	DE	Boise State
2013	31° (59°)	Gavin Escobar	TE	San Diego State
2012	45°	Mike Jenkins	CB	South Florida
2011	40°	Bruce Carter	LB	North Carolina
2010	59°	Sean Lee	LB	Penn State
2009	—	Nessuna scelta al 2° giro	—	—
2008	61°	Martellus Bennett	TE	Texas A&M
2007	53°	James Marten	OT	Boston College
2006	53°	Anthony Fasano	TE	Notre Dame
2005	42°	Kevin Burnett	LB	Tennessee
2004	54°	Jacob Rodgers (Newhouse)	OT	Texas Christian
2003	55°	Al Johnson	C	Wisconsin
2002	37°	Antonio Bryant	WR	Pittsburgh
2002	41°	Andre Gurode	C/G	Colorado
2001	54°	Quincy Carter	QB	Georgia
2000	49°	Idi Amin	DT	—
1999	38°	Wayne Hamrick / Alonzo Spellman (etc.) — Mariano G.) / quant'altro	—	—
1998	60°	Ryan Lilja / Greg Ellis era 1° giro, etc.	—	—
1997	56°	Ebenezer Ekuban / etc.	—	—
1996	54°	Kavika Pittman	DE	UTEP

Half that list is false , sorry looking for attention with clickbait..absolutely redid yo add tank, lee and even wayside is still playing, geroude was solid, Bryant was bonehead but a 1st round talent, carter won 10 games a starte ie playoff game, how is Conner Williams a bust a starter who went elsewhere and started?? Bennett a starter, diggs set records ,

Eze-tbd

There are others, your definition of bust is way off!!!

Lost all crdibitly,useless inaccurate post.. all teams have issues all over the draft…

 

[DAL1180]

2025	44°	Donovan Ezeiruaku	DE	Boston College
2024	56°	Marshawn Kneeland	DE	Western Michigan
2023	58°	Luke Schoonmaker	TE	Michigan
2022	56°	Sam Williams	DE	Mississippi
2021	44°	Kelvin Joseph	CB	Kentucky
2020	51°	Trevon Diggs	CB	Alabama
2019	58°	Trysten Hill	DT	Central Florida
2018	50°	Connor Williams	G	Texas
2017	60°	Chidobe Awuzie	CB	Colorado
2016	34°	Jaylon Smith	LB	Notre Dame
2015	60°	Randy Gregory	DE	Nebraska
2014	47°	DeMarcus Lawrence	DE	Boise State
2013	31° (59°)	Gavin Escobar	TE	San Diego State
2012	45°	Mike Jenkins	CB	South Florida
2011	40°	Bruce Carter	LB	North Carolina
2010	59°	Sean Lee	LB	Penn State
2009	—	Nessuna scelta al 2° giro	—	—
2008	61°	Martellus Bennett	TE	Texas A&M
2007	53°	James Marten	OT	Boston College
2006	53°	Anthony Fasano	TE	Notre Dame
2005	42°	Kevin Burnett	LB	Tennessee
2004	54°	Jacob Rodgers (Newhouse)	OT	Texas Christian
2003	55°	Al Johnson	C	Wisconsin
2002	37°	Antonio Bryant	WR	Pittsburgh
2002	41°	Andre Gurode	C/G	Colorado
2001	54°	Quincy Carter	QB	Georgia
2000	49°	Idi Amin	DT	—
1999	38°	Wayne Hamrick / Alonzo Spellman (etc.) — Mariano G.) / quant'altro	—	—
1998	60°	Ryan Lilja / Greg Ellis era 1° giro, etc.	—	—
1997	56°	Ebenezer Ekuban / etc.	—	—
1996	54°	Kavika Pittman	DE	UTEP

What about Larry Allen?

 

[Blitzen]

2025	44°	Donovan Ezeiruaku	DE	Boston College
2024	56°	Marshawn Kneeland	DE	Western Michigan
2023	58°	Luke Schoonmaker	TE	Michigan
2022	56°	Sam Williams	DE	Mississippi
2021	44°	Kelvin Joseph	CB	Kentucky
2020	51°	Trevon Diggs	CB	Alabama
2019	58°	Trysten Hill	DT	Central Florida
2018	50°	Connor Williams	G	Texas
2017	60°	Chidobe Awuzie	CB	Colorado
2016	34°	Jaylon Smith	LB	Notre Dame
2015	60°	Randy Gregory	DE	Nebraska
2014	47°	DeMarcus Lawrence	DE	Boise State
2013	31° (59°)	Gavin Escobar	TE	San Diego State
2012	45°	Mike Jenkins	CB	South Florida
2011	40°	Bruce Carter	LB	North Carolina
2010	59°	Sean Lee	LB	Penn State
2009	—	Nessuna scelta al 2° giro	—	—
2008	61°	Martellus Bennett	TE	Texas A&M
2007	53°	James Marten	OT	Boston College
2006	53°	Anthony Fasano	TE	Notre Dame
2005	42°	Kevin Burnett	LB	Tennessee
2004	54°	Jacob Rodgers (Newhouse)	OT	Texas Christian
2003	55°	Al Johnson	C	Wisconsin
2002	37°	Antonio Bryant	WR	Pittsburgh
2002	41°	Andre Gurode	C/G	Colorado
2001	54°	Quincy Carter	QB	Georgia
2000	49°	Idi Amin	DT	—
1999	38°	Wayne Hamrick / Alonzo Spellman (etc.) — Mariano G.) / quant'altro	—	—
1998	60°	Ryan Lilja / Greg Ellis era 1° giro, etc.	—	—
1997	56°	Ebenezer Ekuban / etc.	—	—
1996	54°	Kavika Pittman	DE	UTEP

You left off Larry Allen, lol. Andre Gurode, Kevin Burnett, Sean Lee, Demarcus Lawrence, Chidobe Awuzie, Connor Williams, and Trevon Diggs were solid good to very good pros. The Cowboys and Jerry like to use the second round to fill open roster spots and the draft cannot be managed that way.

You cannot take injured guy that would have gone in the first round except for the tiny issue of having one functional leg. You also cannot take-would have gone in the first round if I could just lay off the drugs when I know that they will drug test at the scouting combine.

 

[speedkilz88]

What about Larry Allen?

Jimmy was HC in 1994.

 

[Nova]

oh yeah. I remember when we all loved Bruce Carter.

 

[the playmaker]

You left off Larry Allen, lol. Andre Gurode, Kevin Burnett, Sean Lee, Demarcus Lawrence, Chidobe Awuzie, Connor Williams, and Trevon Diggs were solid good to very good pros. The Cowboys and Jerry like to use the second round to fill open roster spots and the draft cannot be managed that way.

You cannot take injured guy that would have gone in the first round except for the tiny issue of having one functional leg. You also cannot take-would have gone in the first round if I could just lay off the drugs when I know that they will drug test at the scouting combine.

No bro!!! this is just "since 1996" ...the last SB....and the meaning of "bust" is not JUST the player...but the the value....J.P contract contract expires at the end of the season... from what I read, his physical condition does NOT guarantee a better future.

 

[AstroPilota]

Joey Porter for a 2nd was a very good trade, our even some of our 1st-rounders are not of that quality of player. Step 1 is complete, now re-signing him will be Step 2, worry about that next year.

 

[lkelly]

Dwayne Goodrich was certainly destined to fail when he identified as Idi Amin and switched to DT. He looked really good for 75 years old though.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Lot of busts in that list.
There were also some quality players that went on to get a second contract either with the cowboys or other teams.

Some like Sean Lee was an issue of his injury history but otherwise when healthy he was a hell of a player.

I kind of think the entire "every 2nd round pick for Dallas is a bust" narrative is over exaggerated.

I see a lot of pro bowlers on that list and guys who went on to play a long time in the league.

Sure, there are some busts, but there are all over the draft.

 

[Coogiguy03]

is really "bad luck".....or bad GM?

bad player (the player should complain if they get drafted by the cowboys in the 2nd round lol jk, GM

 

[JayFord]

Eze is a bust?

Eze aint no bust but he aint exactly a difference maker

If he was drafted in the 5th round i would say my goodness….he might be someone to watch out for in a couple seasons

 

[charron]

The only bad part is a 14 gsme contract vs a 4 year one

He was holding out for a contract so I'd assume they have something in the works. Maybe it's an agreement for after the season or maybe we see an extension soon.

 

[charron]

The downside is that you don't get surplus contract value.

With the cap situation right now, though, that's not a big deal.

Cap situation lol. That's laughable really. They can extend porter right now without any issues. They have plenty of ability to sign almost any non quarterback.

 

[DAL1180]

Jimmy was HC in 1994.

Jimmy was fired in February of 94 as I recall. Although I may be mistaken