3/14 Mock with trade back

tm1119

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With the extra 1st picked up in the Harvin trade the Vikings send us 25 and 83 for #18

#25- Jonathan Cyprien S FIU- Not a whole lot Cyprien can't do from the safety position. Good size and speed and a big hitter who knows how to wrap up, not just use his shoulder. Also plays a very good deep zone and has the hands and ball skills to make plays on the ball in the air.

#47- Dallas Thomas OG Tennessee - Started 25 games at LT in the SEC, but was moved to LG his senior year where he projects well in the NFL. Big man with good arm length and his foot speed is very good as a guard. Plug him in at LG right away and slide Livings over to RG where he belongs.

#80- Bennie Logan DT LSU- Not the flashy pass rushing DT, but I see Logan as a good 1 Tech in Kiffin's scheme. 310 LBs with 34" arms and put up 30 bench reps, he is going to occupy a lot of blockers and stuff the run.

#83- Christine Michael RB Texas A&M- A stout 220 lbs to combine with elite quickness and athleticism. Michael is a wrecking ball between the tackles. Great for short yardage and goal line situations. Would make a very good complimentary back to Murray

#111- David Quessenberry OT/OG San Diego State- Needs to add some weight, but he has the height, arm length, and hand size to project as a OT in the NFL. Bit of a project but a lot of upside if given time to develop. Also, has the ability to slide inside to OG and I've even seen some say he could play C.

#144- Aaron Mellette WR Elon- Small school stud with elite size and adequate speed. The big outside WR that we lack outside of Dez. Obvious competition questions but impressed at the senior bowl against D1 CB's. Could be a steal.

#175- Quanterus Smith DE Western Kentucky- Great speed pass rusher that abused Fluker earlier this year. Had the most sacks in the nation before tearing his ACL this year. Probably a redshirt type of player, but as a 6th round pick the potential is there to be an NFL DE if he can get healthy and add some good weight.
 

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What the......!!??

Thanks for mocking, but I can't buy into this one at all.
 

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I like 3 names on that list.

Like Cyprien but I don't know if he is rated to creep up to the bottom of the 1st round.

The A&M RB has real upside but heard he is also a bit of a head case or has character problems.

Quessenberry kind of intrigues me. Watched him during the senior bowl practices and he looks like he could be a good developmental player, probably more towards an OG than OT.

Over all I don't think I would care that much for that draft though.
 

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You do realize the NFL has basically outlawed the "big hitting" safety? Any big hit is most likely bringing a 15 yd penalty and an automatic first down. It doesn't even have to be a head-to-head shot. The refs can pull out the defenseless receiver card. So, any safety who is hard hitting is more a liability than a plus. Look exclusively for ball hawking safeties who can ankle tackle well. Pretty soon it will just be 4 CBs back there and no safeties.
 

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So people don't like Dallas Thomas?? Outside of Warmack and Cooper I think he's the best fit for us at OG.

Cyprien is the 2nd highest rated safety in this draft class in my opinion, and a lot of experts too. This was my attempt to create a mock taking a good starting safety without being forced into Vaccaro at 18.

And I understand why some might not like Logan, like I said he won't be the flashy type of DT everyone is looking for. But if you look at our roster we already have 2 3 Techs in Rat and Hatcher, possibly even 3 depending on where Crawford is projected. Right now Lissemore is the closest thing we have to a run stuffing, block eating 1 Tech. Using a 3rd to upgrade that position is a pretty good value in my opinion.
 

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egn22;5023676 said:
i like it for whatever that's worth.
Ditto. Not a ton of sexy names on there, but I think it would be a solid draft.
 

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I like some of the players in this mock. My issue is more with where the players are being taken.

All in good fun anyway.
 

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tm1119;5023581 said:
With the extra 1st picked up in the Harvin trade the Vikings send us 25 and 83 for #18

#25- Jonathan Cyprien S FIU
#47- Dallas Thomas OG Tennessee
#80- Bennie Logan DT LSU
#83- Christine Michael RB Texas A&M
#111- David Quessenberry OT/OG San Diego State
#144- Aaron Mellette WR Elon
#175- Quanterus Smith DE Western Kentucky
Good, not great, but good mock.

I would prefer to get Cyprien or Swearinger with the Cowboys 2nd round pick; however, it now appears that Cyprien could be the 2nd Safety drafted and Swearinger the 3rd or 4th one.

Dallas Thomas is a good fit in Callahan's ZB Scheme. He might be the 2nd best OG in this draft for Callahan's system. His arm length is 33-1/8 which is good at OG but not at OT.

Logan is a decent looking player and reasonable pick in the 3rd; although, I do feel uneasy about LSU DLinemen.

C. Michael is a decent player. Staying healthy appears to be his biggest issue. I thought he might be available a round or two later.

Quessenberry looks like a decent developmental guy. I thought he might be available a round later.

Mellette is a reasonable 5th round pick.

Quanterus Smith has exciting upside. This is the type of player that I like in the late rounds.
 

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tm1119;5023670 said:
So people don't like Dallas Thomas?? Outside of Warmack and Cooper I think he's the best fit for us at OG.

He's number three on my OG list as well. I don't think 47 is too high.

tm1119;5023670 said:
Cyprien is the 2nd highest rated safety in this draft class in my opinion, and a lot of experts too. This was my attempt to create a mock taking a good starting safety without being forced into Vaccaro at 18.

He has the 13th highest overall grade (ahead of Vaccaro) on NFL.com. Not that I care about their rankings. Personally I don't want him in the first round.

tm1119;5023670 said:
And I understand why some might not like Logan, like I said he won't be the flashy type of DT everyone is looking for.

I like him. He's near the top of my round three wish list.
 

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I really like this draft; it addresses a lot of needs with appropriate value. Its not particularily flashy, but I don't think this team needs a flashy draft like we've had in years past(2012 & 2010) where we trade up for a big name player.
 
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