3 TE no WR Set... Any potential?

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Wittten Phillips LT LG C RG RT Bennett
Romo
Barber Choice/Jones

I'd like to see the Cowboys run this. Witten and Bennett out wide. They are both TE/WR hybrids. May pose matchup problems for the defense. If they put CBs on Bennett and Witten, the Cowboys could have success running wide or a pass in the flat to the backs. If they put safeties on Bennett and Witten, the Cowboys could have success with the pass to them or the run. Having Barber on the left and either Choice or Jones on the right keeps the LB honest and guessing. And Phillips can motion left or right. Even one of the RBs can motion out as a WR.

Anything here?
 

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ninja;3013660 said:
Wittten Phillips LT LG C RG RT Bennett
Romo
Barber Choice/Jones

I'd like to see the Cowboys run this. Witten and Bennett out wide. They are both TE/WR hybrids. May pose matchup problems for the defense. If they put CBs on Bennett and Witten, the Cowboys could have success running wide or a pass in the flat to the backs. If they put safeties on Bennett and Witten, the Cowboys could have success with the pass to them or the run. Having Barber on the left and either Choice or Jones on the right keeps the LB honest and guessing. And Phillips can motion left or right. Even one of the RBs can motion out as a WR.

Anything here?

I think the mismatches come in safeties or lb's ending up on Witten and Bennett, not CB's. I think what you want to do is lineup with two TE's and the defense brings a personnel to stop the run and then you motion the TE's out wide to create the mismatch. Or they come out expecting the TE's to be receivers and then you bring them in to run block against a team with an extra cb out there. If you have no WR's out there and motion them out, you'll just end up with a CB on them in coverage.
 

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3 TE is fairly common in goal line offense beyond that I would not go 3 TE
 

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It's too slow to be dangerous. The other team can pretty much put 9 in the box.
 

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Future;3013694 said:
It's too slow to be dangerous. The other team can pretty much put 9 in the box.

Which means Witten and Bennett are against man to man with no help. Are they CBs or Safeties out there on an island? And no one is back deep which means if a RB(Jones) busts a hole in the middle, he is gone. Or if A RB gets to the corner, they are gone.
 

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ninja;3013705 said:
Which means Witten and Bennett are against man to man with no help. Are they CBs or Safeties out there on an island? And no one is back deep which means if a RB(Jones) busts a hole in the middle, he is gone. Or if A RB gets to the corner, they are gone.
I don't care how great your TEs are, they can't consistently beat corners...there is a reaosn they are TEs. And if a team has 9 in the box and gets beat to an edge or up the middle then the defense is awful anyways.
 

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ninja;3013660 said:
Wittten Phillips LT LG C RG RT Bennett
Romo
Barber Choice/Jones

I'd like to see the Cowboys run this. Witten and Bennett out wide. They are both TE/WR hybrids. May pose matchup problems for the defense. If they put CBs on Bennett and Witten, the Cowboys could have success running wide or a pass in the flat to the backs. If they put safeties on Bennett and Witten, the Cowboys could have success with the pass to them or the run. Having Barber on the left and either Choice or Jones on the right keeps the LB honest and guessing. And Phillips can motion left or right. Even one of the RBs can motion out as a WR.

Anything here?

This is really a sub-par 2-TE set with Phillips subbing in for Witten at TE so that Witten can line up wide at receiver. And by doing that, a WR has to come off the field. So really all that's happening is that Phillips is subbing in so that a WR can be subbed out (THAT'S BAD) --- and also, with Witten used as a pure WR, he now has to go against true DBs, who have more of an advantage in covering him over the LBs that would cover him had he just ran a route from the TE spot (again, THAT'S BAD). In fact, this 3-TE thing is so bad that now I'm afraid Garrett just might try it. :(
 

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Future;3013694 said:
It's too slow to be dangerous. The other team can pretty much put 9 in the box.


Bingo!

It puts us on the wrong side of the mismatch.
Lets take the concept of most of our WR's cant get open so lets try SLOWER TE's and see how it works.

:laugh2:
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3013728 said:
--- and also, with Witten used as a pure WR, he now has to go against true DBs, who have more of an advantage in covering him over the LBs that would cover him had he just ran a route from the TE spot (again, THAT'S BAD). In fact, this 3-TE thing is so bad that now I'm afraid Garrett just might try it. :(

Go ahead and put a DB(Safety or CB) on Witten or Bennett out wide. I can run it. I like my chances of a 260 lb TE blocking a 190-200 lb DB. All I have to do is get Felix to the corner and the TE has to make a block on the DB and it is a big game if I can seal off the LB and safety. And TEs are often covered by safeties not just LBs, for your information.

And I like my chances with Witten and Bennett using their bigger bodies and height advantage in space against the smaller DBs. So this could actually take the other teams CBs out of the game and force them to go to a bigger lineup where the matchups favor the Cowboys.
 
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