30 for 30. OJ: Made in America

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Yes, I could care less about OJ. I care more about the victims who pretty much won't have documentaries made about them.
 

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nope, I have the 30 for 30 series set to download all new episodes on "all channels"....so when I noticed my DVR didnt pick it up because they lazily didnt put it under the "30 for 30" name, I said ****, Im lazy too, so F yall.......I honestly couldnt care less about anymore O.J. garbage anyway so its whatevs......

The case is fascinating on a number of levels. OJ transcended race. The media circus. Johnnie Cochran's brilliant defense strategy, turning it into a race war, when OJ never embraced the black community.
 

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I care more about the victims who pretty much won't have documentaries made about them.

That's one way of looking at it, another is, OJ was a man who was found not guilty, but due the various documentaries and things like this, the world views him in the proper light
 

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That's one way of looking at it, another is, OJ was a man who was found not guilty, but due the various documentaries and things like this, the world views him in the proper light

Guilty or not, the victims are who I wish we had documentaries on.
 

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A regular documentary, 1 to 2 hours or so. Sure I would.

well, you and a handful would be about it and most of those people would be doing just for the moral superiority.

I get why you feel this way, but none of these documentaries glamorize OJ or even give any weight to anyone else being a possible killer. He makes no money off of these, and the notoriety is part of the reason he's in jail now.
 

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well, you and a handful would be about it and most of those people would be doing just for the moral superiority.

I get why you feel this way, but none of these documentaries glamorize OJ or even give any weight to anyone else being a possible killer. He makes no money off of these, and the notoriety is part of the reason he's in jail now.

It can be a A&E biography type documentary. People watch that.
 
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well, you and a handful would be about it and most of those people would be doing just for the moral superiority.

I get why you feel this way, but none of these documentaries glamorize OJ or even give any weight to anyone else being a possible killer. He makes no money off of these, and the notoriety is part of the reason he's in jail now.

of course it glamorizes OJ and Johnny Cochrane and for all the wrong reasons.....it uses the actions of others to excuse their behavior as some kind of racial justice.....OJ got the gift of a lifetime when he was acquitted and he couldn't just walk away with his pension......he was so arrogant and delusional that he actually committed armed robbery to get back items that he couldn't even keep because he owed it to the Goldmans...
 

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of course it glamorizes OJ and Johnny Cochrane and for all the wrong reasons.....it uses the actions of others to excuse their behavior as some kind of racial justice.....OJ got the gift of a lifetime when he was acquitted and he couldn't just walk away with his pension......he was so arrogant and delusional that he actually committed armed robbery to get back items that he couldn't even keep because he owed it to the Goldmans...

Johnnie Cochran should be glorified for getting OJ off. He and the dream team were absolutely brilliant.
 

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of course it glamorizes OJ and Johnny Cochrane and for all the wrong reasons.....it uses the actions of others to excuse their behavior as some kind of racial justice.....OJ got the gift of a lifetime when he was acquitted and he couldn't just walk away with his pension......he was so arrogant and delusional that he actually committed armed robbery to get back items that he couldn't even keep because he owed it to the Goldmans...

I'd have to assume you have either never watched any documentary on OJ or already had that predisposition, because I've never seen anything on OJ that did not paint him as a serial spousal abuser, who tortured Nicole Brown Simpson from the day they met until the day she died, who benefited from the racial injustices others suffered, while during his time as an influential person, consistently showed he gave no ***** about the struggles black people faced.

If you think that's glorifying, then we can agree to disagree.

Cochran on the other hand is glorified (or you can argue vilified) more than the other attorneys on OJs dream team, which if that's your point, fine, there is some truth to it, but I'd say it's really no different than any other attorney who defends a guilty man.
 

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I'd have to assume you have either never watched any documentary on OJ or already had that predisposition, because I've never seen anything on OJ that did not paint him as a serial spousal abuser, who tortured Nicole Brown Simpson from the day they met until the day she died, who benefited from the racial injustices others suffered, while during his time as an influential person, consistently showed he gave no ***** about the struggles black people faced.

If you think that's glorifying, then we can agree to disagree.

Cochran on the other hand is glorified (or you can argue vilified) more than the other attorneys on OJs dream team, which if that's your point, fine, there is some truth to it, but I'd say it's really no different than any other attorney who defends a guilty man.

I watched them all....and it is always about his exploits on and off the field.......his charm, his charisma, he is the "Juice"......even when they talk about the trial they usually try to credit him with a lot of the strategy......I think it is more than enough and I don't need to see anymore

but here is your "jump to conclusions mat" since no one could have legitimately disagreed with your take
 

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I watched them all....and it is always about his exploits on and off the field.......his charm, his charisma, he is the "Juice"......even when they talk about the trial they usually try to credit him with a lot of the strategy......I think it is more than enough and I don't need to see anymore

And if you think that is glorifying (fwiw, Fred Goldman would not be apart of this if it glorified him in any way), versus the fact that none of these documentaries present an alternative theory as to who killed Nicole and Ron, paint him as a sympathetic figure or victim of racial injustice or even paint him as a champion against racism and they heavily focus instead on his past as an abuser and the countless lies, then we'll just agree to disagree.
 

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Brilliant no.......race baiters and weak judge yes

Race was part of it, but they tore the LAPD apart. F Lee Bailey had Furhman dead weeks before he took the stand. Their forensics team dismantled the LAPD's collection methods. The prosecution's ego played a big part in it, as well.

If the LAPD had collected the samples properly, it would have been a different story. The defense's job was to bring reasonable doubt into light, and they did.
 
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