News: 32: Is Dez Bryant of the Dallas Cowboys the best red zone wide receiver in the NFL?

[Cebrin]

I made the statement during the game last Sunday that he's the best red zone WR I've ever seen.

Ever. Seen. Bar none.

Just put the ball up ^^. 9/10 times he's coming down with it.

 

[Cebrin]

I can't believe this. I know this is a cowboys board, but seriously? I really hope you don't walk around making statements like that. Moss Killed the Redzone, TD catches look simple, effortless.

Yes Moss was the better WR by a mile, and also a better Redzone threat, by a mile.

When Dez can do this, and make it look so effortless. Then we can discuss this. This is just a little salt grain of what Randy has done, on his way out of his prime as well.

Lol, ummm....the red zone is not from the 40 yard line. The red zone is 1st and goal. (from the 20 technically) No receiver in the NFL is as dirty in that tight space as Dez. His numbers tell it, even while we had a suspect O Line still.

 

[Risen Star]

I can't believe this. I know this is a cowboys board, but seriously? I really hope you don't walk around making statements like that. Moss Killed the Redzone, TD catches look simple, effortless.

Yes Moss was the better WR by a mile, and also a better Redzone threat, by a mile.

When Dez can do this, and make it look so effortless. Then we can discuss this. This is just a little salt grain of what Randy has done, on his way out of his prime as well.

You didn't need to give me further evidence of your Moss worship. I knew it when you said Dez wasn't in his zip code as a red zone target. A completely asinine statement only a fan boy would utter.

Roger Staubach is the best QB ever and there will never be another like him!!

It's the same thing.

I have yet to see any WR who can so easily play pitch and catch in the end zone like Dez Bryant. He routinely makes good cornerbacks look like they're 5 year old kids wanting their ball back from their big brother.

 

[Frozen700]

Lol, ummm....the red zone is not from the 40 yard line. The red zone is 1st and goal. No receiver in the NFL is as dirty in that tight space as Dez. His numbers tell it, even while we had a suspect O Line still.

Even in the Redzone on fade routes, Moss was beast mode.

Dez is great, not sure if you ever watched Moss much, but Redzone, out of the redzone, he's not touching Moss.

 

[Frozen700]

You didn't need to give me further evidence of your Moss worship. I knew it when you said Dez wasn't in his zip code as a red zone target. A completely asinine statement only a fan boy would utter.

Roger Staubach is the best QB ever and there will never be another like him!!

It's the same thing.

I have yet to see any WR who can so easily play pitch and catch in the end zone like Dez Bryant. He routinely makes good cornerbacks look like they're 5 year old kids wanting their ball back from their big brother.

He does, and he's great at it.

Top 3.

Not better than Moss, weather it's inside the 20, or outside.

You can say he's better than Calvin, I won't even get upset about that, even though I don't believe it. Moss? No, that's when I have to stop it.

But you will never change, and I'm not sure if you even watched Moss much. So whatever.

 

[Cebrin]

Even in the Redzone on fade routes, Moss was beast mode.

Dez is great, not sure if you ever watched Moss much, but Redzone, out of the redzone, he's not touching Moss.

I'm 35, I watched plenty of the great Moss play. We're comparing apples and oranges really. 6-4 speedy receiver who is older than I am to a 6'2" strong, athletic monster at 26 years. They play differently by every means of the word. We'll talk again when Dez is 37.

 

[CowboyStar88]

How about the team get in the RZ six times Sunday and let's see how Dez does.

TD3 in all the years posting with you I don't think I've seen this side of you.. Love it bro

 

[Frozen700]

Lol, ummm....the red zone is not from the 40 yard line. The red zone is 1st and goal. (from the 20 technically) No receiver in the NFL is as dirty in that tight space as Dez. His numbers tell it, even while we had a suspect O Line still.

I'm 35, I watched plenty of the great Moss play. We're comparing apples and oranges really. 6-4 speedy receiver who is older than I am to a 6'2" strong, athletic monster at 26 years. They play differently by every means of the word. We'll talk again when Dez is 37.

You didn't need to give me further evidence of your Moss worship. I knew it when you said Dez wasn't in his zip code as a red zone target. A completely asinine statement only a fan boy would utter.

Roger Staubach is the best QB ever and there will never be another like him!!

It's the same thing.

I have yet to see any WR who can so easily play pitch and catch in the end zone like Dez Bryant. He routinely makes good cornerbacks look like they're 5 year old kids wanting their ball back from their big brother.

Edit-Video had cursing. Screw it.

Ok you guys win. lol Dez is better than Moss in the redzone

 

[TwoDeep3]

TD3 in all the years posting with you I don't think I've seen this side of you.. Love it bro

I have said a few times, get me a team that is competitive and I am the biggest homer on the planet. I'm lovin' this season, too.

 

[Cebrin]

He does, and he's great at it.

Top 3.

Not better than Moss, weather it's inside the 20, or outside.

You can say he's better than Calvin, I won't even get upset about that, even though I don't believe it. Moss? No, that's when I have to stop it.

But you will never change, and I'm not sure if you even watched Moss much. So whatever.

Calvin is better on the run because of his size advantage (as was Moss). In a 10 to 20 yard field where corners don't have to chase, his strongest asset is taken away. That may not have been the case for Moss but, it could certainly be said of Calvin. Dez is explosive off the line, strong and elusive in tight space and has remarkable athleticism and hands to make any catch. I'd take Dez in the redzone over any WR playing in the NFL today.

 

[Cebrin]

Edit-Video had cursing. Screw it.

Ok you guys win. lol Dez is better than Moss in the redzone

Dude, you brought a guy who isn't even playing football into the conversation. We were discussing Calvin vs. Dez.

 

[theogt]

Moss.....

You can make statements like these here, comfortably.Go anywhere else and you will get laughed at.

Nobody is ******* with Moss, point blank. When I say not ******* with him, I mean, Dez isn't even in the same zip code. Mega is barely in the same zip code as well.

What Garcon is to Dez and Megatron. Is the same way Dez and Mega are to Moss.

Redzone Targets:
Moss - 265
Dez - 69

Redzone TDs:
Moss - 71 (26.8%)
Dez - 31 (44.9%)

Redzone TDs per Game:
Moss - .33
Dez - .41

 

[Frozen700]

Calvin is better on the run because of his size advantage (as was Moss). In a 10 to 20 yard field where corners don't have to chase, his strongest asset is taken away. That may not have been the case for Moss but, it could certainly be said of Calvin. Dez is explosive off the line, strong and elusive in tight space and has remarkable athleticism and hands to make any catch. I'd take Dez in the redzone over any WR playing in the NFL today.

Hey I won't battle you with this. My main beef is with Randy Moss. I respect this opinion though bro.

 

[Cebrin]

Hey I won't battle you with this. My main beef is with Randy Moss. I respect this opinion though bro.

For what it's worth, I absolutely love Randy Moss and always wanted him to be a Cowboy. Instead, we got T.O. Lol. Love me some T.O. too though.

 

[Frozen700]

Dude, you brought a guy who isn't even playing football into the conversation. We were discussing Calvin vs. Dez.

He said.......

"I made the statement during the game last Sunday that he's the best red zone WR I've ever seen.

Ever. Seen. Bar none."

Which is why I brought up Moss. So this battle really has nothing to do with you. We are cool

 

[Frozen700]

For what it's worth, I absolutely love Randy Moss and always wanted him to be a Cowboy. Instead, we got T.O. Lol. Love me some T.O. too though.

Lol, same here brother..... Same here

 

[Cebrin]

He said.......

"I made the statement during the game last Sunday that he's the best red zone WR I've ever seen.

Ever. Seen. Bar none."

Which is why I brought up Moss. So this battle really has nothing to do with you. We are cool

Oh yeah, I forgot it was a double conversation with @Risen Star.

 

[CATCH17]

Stats say he is. Yes.

That title still belongs to Calvin.

I'm not into, oh this year, live in the moment stuff. Calvin needs to show decline for another year or 2, before you start crowning another guy.

Dez is a close number 2 though.

Eh I think we've seen Calvin decline. He pads his stats with 4 or 5 huge games and a bunch of duds for a couple years now..

I'd tKe Dez & Demaryius over him at this point.

 

[Frozen700]

Oh yeah, I forgot it was a double conversation with @Risen Star.

Yeah, it's all good bro. At the end of the day we all root for the same team.

Regardless of my opinions on Dez vs Mega, or Dez vs Moss. Dez is by far my most favorite. Even though I grew up loving me some Moss, and he was 1 of my fav's. Dez has taken over that spot. I love Mega as well, but I wouldn't trade Dez for Mega. Not for a damn thing.

 

[Frozen700]

Eh I think we've seen Calvin decline. He pads his stats with 4 or 5 huge games and a bunch of duds for a couple years now..

I'd tKe Dez & Demaryius over him at this point.

Dez? Yeah.....DT? Idk about that.

Sure Calvin might be on a little decline, but it's not as bad as some might think. He's been hurt. Didn't he put up close to 1,500 last season?