33 Points

[ScipioCowboy]

Last season, the Cowboys scored 33 points against a scrappy Commanders defense without Dez Bryant, Roy Williams, or Tony Romo in the lineup, and sporting one of the least athletic lines in the NFL.

Playing without Dez limits the Cowboys' explosiveness, but it shouldn't prevent them from scoring or moving the ball.

My biggest concerns are still turnovers and special teams returns. They could equalize what, in my opinion, remains a lopsided talent differential, even with the absence of Dez Bryant.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

33 points should be enough today. Hope we get there.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Last season, the Cowboys scored 33 points against a scrappy Commanders defense without Dez Bryant, Roy Williams, or Tony Romo in the lineup, and sporting one of the least athletic lines in the NFL.

Playing without Dez limits the Cowboys' explosiveness, but it shouldn't prevent them from scoring or moving the ball.

My biggest concerns are still turnovers and special teams returns. They could equalize what, in my opinion, remains a lopsided talent differential, even with the absence of Dez Bryant.

Because all things are equal in the NFL from one team to the next from year to year.

It's this type of assumption using stats that are meaningless that really causes me to wonder about logical thinking of some fans.

 

[newlander]

Because all things are equal in the NFL from one team to the next from year to year.

It's this type of assumption using stats that are meaningless that really causes me to wonder about logical thinking of some fans.

...if it were ALL that logical I'd be kicking it in Bermuda on my yacht right now watching the first half results of all the NFL games and laughing my arse off as I made massive bank betting these games...bottom line: doesn't work that way

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Because all things are equal in the NFL from one team to the next from year to year.

It's this type of assumption using stats that are meaningless that really causes me to wonder about logical thinking of some fans.

I never said or even intimated that. I'm merely pointing out evidence suggesting that the Cowboys are more the capable of moving the ball and scoring points even sans Dez Bryant.

If I had used last year's performance to extrapolate an exact point total for this game, you might have an argument. However, because I didn't, you don't.

It's posts like yours that make me question the basic reading comprehension skills of some fans.

 

[TwoDeep3]

...if it were ALL that logical I'd be kicking it in Bermuda on my yacht right now watching the first half results of all the NFL games and laughing my arse off as I made massive bank betting these games...bottom line: doesn't work that way

What doesn't work is saying because in 2010 Dallas had X results against a completely different team so this weekend we should enjoy Y results.

This logic is tossed out in many forms on message boards.

Seldom do people ever challenge that as being a "stat" that cannot be proven.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I never said or even intimated that. I'm merely pointing out evidence suggesting that the Cowboys are more the capable of moving the ball and scoring points even sans Dez Bryant.

If I had used last year's performance to extrapolate an exact point total for this game, you might have an argument. However, because I didn't, you don't.

It's posts like yours that make me question the basic reading comprehension skills of some fans.

But you did use last year's results by bringing up the Commanders.

 

[FLcowboy]

Last season, the Cowboys scored 33 points against a scrappy Commanders defense without Dez Bryant, Roy Williams, or Tony Romo in the lineup, and sporting one of the least athletic lines in the NFL.

Playing without Dez limits the Cowboys' explosiveness, but it shouldn't prevent them from scoring or moving the ball.

My biggest concerns are still turnovers and special teams returns. They could equalize what, in my opinion, remains a lopsided talent differential, even with the absence of Dez Bryant.

I would add that the loss of Scandrick is a big loss. The defense is suspect without Newman and Scandrick, plus, James was silent last week. Spencer and Ware need to come up big.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

But you did use last year's results by bringing up the Commanders.

Predictions are based on past performance. We assume Aaron Rodgers will perform well this season based on how he's performed in previous seasons.

Now, we would be guilty of faulty reasoning if we tried to predict Rodger's exact numbers in a season based on his numbers in previous seasons. However, there's nothing faulty in the assumption that his strong play will carry over between seasons.

Similarly, there's nothing faulty in the assumption that the Cowboys will be able to score points and move the ball without Dez Bryant, and that if they fail to do so, Dez Bryant's absence will not be the sole cause.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Predictions are based on past performance. We assume Aaron Rodgers will perform well this season based on how he's performed in previous seasons.

Now, we would be guilty of faulty reasoning if we tried to predict Rodger's exact numbers in a season based on his numbers in previous seasons. However, there's nothing faulty in the assumption that his strong play will carry over between seasons.

Similarly, there's nothing faulty in the assumption that the Cowboys will be able to score points and move the ball without Dez Bryant, and that if they fail to do so, Dez Bryant's absence will not be the sole cause.

Now I might be able to accept this, even though there is still a flaw in the argument.

But when you brought up the Commanders game and them tried to extrapolate results because we had some positive results in that game is both too small a sample group and assuming all things are the same.

 

[realtick]

What doesn't work is saying because in 2010 Dallas had X results against a completely different team so this weekend we should enjoy Y results.

This logic is tossed out in many forms on message boards.

Seldom do people ever challenge that as being a "stat" that cannot be proven.

Thank you.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Now I might be able to accept this, even though there is still a flaw in the argument.

But when you brought up the Commanders game and them tried to extrapolate results because we had some positive results in that game is both too small a sample group and assuming all things are the same.

It depends on the nature and extent of one's extrapolation. If I had tried to extrapolate an exact point total or even a win or a loss, you might have an argument.

However, I simply pointed to the fact that the Cowboys have been able to move the ball and score points even without Dez Bryant on the field.

 

[realtick]

I never said or even intimated that. I'm merely pointing out evidence suggesting that the Cowboys are more the capable of moving the ball and scoring points even sans Dez Bryant.

If I had used last year's performance to extrapolate an exact point total for this game, you might have an argument. However, because I didn't, you don't.

It's posts like yours that make me question the basic reading comprehension skills of some fans.

Flawed logic is beyond comprehension which answers your question.

Thanks for playin'

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Flawed logic is beyond comprehension which answers your question.

Thanks for playin'

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Good luck!

 

[realtick]

Based on what I observed from you during our last discussion as well as your more recent exchanges with several other posters, I thought this link might prove helpful to you.

Good luck!

Ah, I see it comes highly recommended from personal experience from you.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Ah, I see it comes highly recommended from personal experience from you.

Indeed.

I've used it to help many "special" people such as yourself.

 

[realtick]

Indeed.

I've used it to help many "special" people such as yourself.

Yes, the mentally challenged often do see normal people as "special" or "lucky" in their eyes.

*pats you on the head*

 

[85Cowboy85]

This is a prediction for a football game not a mathematical proof lol.

Besides I would be willing to bet if anyone took the time to research it there would be some correlation between past offensive performances and future offensive performances, even if there is no guarantee of results.

 

[newlander]

and we look JUSt like a team that had a crushing opening game, last second defeat, flew cross country and has 3 of it's better players out of the game....just mystifies me that SO many on this board thought we'd run away and hide in this game....unreal.:bang2: (and yes, I said in every thread I could that this game would be close and tough and was shouted down for it)

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

0 points 27 minutes into the game....nuff said