3rd down VS. 3rd down

[Cajuncowboy]

What does that have to do with this thread?

If all we were concerned about was the "outcome of the battle," nobody would care whether Jason Campbell completed any third-down passes or the Commanders converted on third downs, because we won the battle. But obviously, some people are concerned about more than the battle. They're concerned about stats such as converting on third-and-3 or more and "completing something like 13 straight 3rd down passes in a row."

Whatever.

Thanks for the stats.

 

[AdamJT13]

I said my perspective was Within the game. I asked a question about the overall stats which I didn't know. It doesn't mean I don't have a good perspective of what happens on the field.

The stats question was out of curiosity. That's all.

I know the out come of the games and what transpired during them, Which really, if you think about it, is all that matters.

So no, I am not disagreeing with myself, but with someone who thinks they know what perspective I have.

Fine. Your definition of perspective is different from mine.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Fine. Your definition of perspective is different from mine.

Sure is. But could there actually be two different perspectives?

Hmmm, a question for the ages.

 

[CCBoy]

I honestly can't figure out what you're trying to say, but I assume you're disagreeing with me about something?

Well, that makes sense, for when someone disagree with any aspect of a premise presented by yourself, you push that off as lack of intelligence by the other person, although holes need to be plugged in what you offer as being more valid. Figure NOT understanding, and then rush to a high intelectual ground.

You have a problem with English as a primary language. Everything not in agreement is gibberish?

The case was presented as it would evolve in a court case. What, legalistic discernment based upon valid principals of rational and common sense toooo unsophisticated for that taste? :shoot5:I guess common law was to far under constitutional law to even receive considerations as well... :shoot4:

 

[JBond]

We were among the top five defenses on third down until recently.

On third-and-3 or more, we've allowed our opponents to convert 33.62 percent of the time, including defensive penalties that give our opponents first downs (which aren't normally included in conversion rates -- it would be 31.86 using the normal percentages).

On offense, we've converted 33.65 percent of the time, NOT including penalties on our opponents that give us first downs (not sure what it would be including them).

For the season, we're better than our opponents at converting third-and-3 or more, which means that your thought in the original post -- that we give up "a lot" of those conversions but struggle to convert them ourselves -- is misguided. And until the past few games, we were much better at it than our opponents.

Hey Adam. Do you happen to have the stats on 3rd down conversion for games played at 3:15 central time on Thursdays? If anyone would have that at their finger tips it would be you.